Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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In a surprising decision, Donald Trump has tapped Ann Coulter as his personal choice for attorney general, with the backing up key members of his inner circle.

nomar, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link

I've been expecting way more ''old cronies from back home in the crooked real estate game'' types tbh. Would be totally sensible for Trump to pick an AG who's the equivalent of Harriet Miers. A loyalist, not necessarily a name we've ever heard of, specifically to shield himself from whatever's coming at the office legally.

dustalo springsteen (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link

is there a different thread where we've been covering Zuckerberg's non-apologies for Facebook's outsized influence on the election & the pile on of angry rejoinders?

http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/11/donald-trump-won-because-of-facebook.html
https://www.wired.com/2016/11/facebook-alone-didnt-create-trump-click-economy/
https://shift.newco.co/im-sorry-mr-zuckerberg-but-you-are-wrong-65dbf8513424#.eqs30faco

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link

nomar, you stop that.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:49 (seven years ago) link

I'm half-convinced that he's going to start recruiting death row inmates for cabinet positions at this point.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link

yeah just wait until an unarmed black man gets shot by the cops and blm protests it.. can see that escalating quickly

Trump will pardon the cops before there can be an investigation, and he'll spike in popularity.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link

is that after all the patriot gun squads have come out and shot up the town or before

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link

xpost I can't express to you the degree of relief I felt when I hovered over the link and confirmed that it was indeed an Onion article. My critical faculties are completely blown out at this point.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:22 (seven years ago) link

Funny but we're rapidly approaching Peak LOL Liberals Read Books

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/305920-two-presidential-electors-to-colleagues-dump-trump

thought at first this was a true case of faithless electors but nah it's just two democratic electors

, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link

oh the pushed down stairs thing looks more complicated. the person who did it was apparently not a trump supporter, but someone who progressives are friendly with and a disabled rights advocate who, due to their condition, freaked out. the person pushed down the stairs is trying to get the message out and control the story and make sure no charges are pressed.

the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link

You all know I say what I feel without filters and I have to say that I feel the prospect of a Trump presidency looks problematic at best

Evan, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link

Funny but we're rapidly approaching Peak LOL Liberals Read Books

― Kiarostami bag (milo z),

Just three weeks ago I was snickering at the number of anti-Bush books groaning on the uni library shelf, most published between 2002-2005.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

Could someone explain the whole "sanctuary cities" thing? I don't think I'd even heard the term until Trump made an issue of it.

sarahell, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

usu it's a city that doesn't use municipal $ to enforce immigration laws and where cops don't ask abt immigration status

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

i think hitler coined that term.

scott seward, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

it reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_of_Refuge

Mordy, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link

McCain Warns Against Russian Reset

"With the U.S. presidential transition underway, Vladimir Putin has said in recent days that he wants to improve relations with the United States. We should place as much faith in such statements as any other made by a former KGB agent who has plunged his country into tyranny, murdered his political opponents, invaded his neighbors, threatened America's allies, and attempted to undermine America's elections," the Arizona senator said in a statement, without any apparent irony or self-reflection.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link

(The last bit added by me for emphasis, just for the sake of clarity and to hopefully forestall the complete collapse of factual reality.)

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link

nobody cares what McCain says

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

thx for Caribou Barbie, you "honorable" captured guy

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

It's less about caring what he says and more about the fact that he's halfway describing the dude he endorsed for president, who in turn spent his entire campaign showing clear favor for Putin.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link

oh I got that, believe me

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

thx for Caribou Barbie, you "honorable" captured guy

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:52 PM

haha i loled

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link

McCain, Graham and Cruz all on the Armed Services committee, Dems could probably work w them to frustrate any stupid major foreign policy blunders re: Russia

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link

Really, how eager is the GOP to make nice with Russia? Maybe if it leads to some bilateral plan to carve up the Middle East?

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I'm sure Putin would give them whatever they wanted. He seems like a pretty equitable dude that way.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link

xxp:
Could they? What's the likelihood of Congress voting to halt funding for military action already in progress.

The imperial presidency created during Truman's tenure means Congress is reduced to performing policy autopsies.

Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link

obviously they can't stop Trump from putting planes in the air and dropping bombs, but the power of the purse isn't nothing

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link

one more data point: the forclosure crisis was the unaddressed drag on obama's tenure and may have cost hillary too

https://mathbabe.org/2016/11/14/guest-post-the-foreclosure-vote/

goole, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link

Cue constituent howls of "not supporting the troops".

Under the War Powers Act, the president has 90 days after introducing troops into hostilities to obtain congressional approval of that action. It looks good on paper, but presidents have generally ignored the War Powers Act, citing Article II, Section 2 as their authority to send soldiers into combat.

Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:13 (seven years ago) link

I'd figure the numbers on Trump's promises will start to add up quick. You got to figure it would cost probably 2-3 billion to try and deport 2-3 million people. That would only be a cost of legal and logistics of $1000 a case and I would figure that it could cost lots more per case than that.

earlnash, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link

Many different things Trump and his admin supposedly want would create absolute chaos. My biggest fear is that they want to create chaos.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link

they don't actually want anything except money and respect

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link

Like the best case right now is four years of infighting and bufoonery and blustery talk backed up by little action, with some real damage to federal govt and US standing along the way. My mind is playing out so many worse scenarios right now that I'm having a hard time concentrating on anything.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link

or rather that's all Trump wants

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link

yeah, it's not all Pence wants, and maybe not Bannon either.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link

pretty sure he genuinely wants to reduce taxes for his wealthy friends. dunno if that is part of what you mean by money.

sarahell, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link

I am aware of the toothlessness of the War Powers Act Sanpaku. Nonetheless, I can see avowed "mavericks" I mentioned doing their best to frustrate Trump military adventures in the service of Russia.

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link

dunno if that is part of what you mean by money.

duh, of course it is!

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link

wasn't sure if you just meant himself and his family.

sarahell, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link

well they would benefit from those tax cuts, so yes

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link

staffing VA psych patients has been v interesting today

jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

huh Congress trying to rally against this Bannon appointment:

BREAKING: Rep Cicilline circulating letter to colleagues asking @realDonaldTrump to rescind Bannon appointment. 120 co-signers so far.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

Οὖτις:

I don't see Trump adventurism, outside of unilateral strikes on Iran, being nearly as great a problem as his signals that the U.S. won't stand behind S.Korea/Taiwan/Baltic States.

What happens if Trump says to Russia: we're not going to interfere with bombing East Aleppo? If he removes specops guys working with the FSA? Not much, really.

And, from the nottheonion file:

Ben Carson declines role in Trump administration because he 'feels he has no government experience'

Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link

Late on that headline, it seems.

Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link

popular vote deficit passed 1 mill! lol mandate

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link


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