trump winning stopped a lot of violence that would have happened in that scenario. trump winning will also create a lot of violence, probably much, much more violence. sorry to get all miss cleo but i think it's true
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link
you're probably right.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link
christie is also going to get indicted yall
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, November 15, 2016 1:17 PM (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/president-trump-can-thank-paula-jones-his-legal-troubles
― 龜, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link
ha yeah – I cited that SCOTUS decision a couple days ago upthread
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link
this is amazing
https://vimeo.com/190738676
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link
can we find a way to drag Pence repeatedly into court though?
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/Abid_ism/status/798568643009318912
hehe
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:12 (seven years ago) link
I can't stop thinking about this actual, totally real campaign ad that belongs in the "Things that just have to be Tim & Eric sketches" thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5kfC_VCXeQ
― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link
obviously we don't want Pence president either, we just want the administration crippled/unable to act
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:15 (seven years ago) link
yeah, agreed on that, whatever works
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link
yeah just wait until an unarmed black man gets shot by the cops and blm protests it.. can see that escalating quickly
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link
I hope this is good news and not someone even shittier getting the post. who am I kidding thats probably exactly whats happening.
In a surprise development, former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani appeared to take himself out of the running for attorney general.
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link
yeah but the rumor now is that AG could be Kris Kobach
― goole, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link
dem senators think they have an opening against bannon, looks like
https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/798611435416854528
idg why Giuliani would prefer Sec of State tbh. Sitting through complex negotiations doesn't really seem to be a thing he's interested in.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link
In a surprising decision, Donald Trump has tapped Ann Coulter as his personal choice for attorney general, with the backing up key members of his inner circle.
― nomar, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link
I've been expecting way more ''old cronies from back home in the crooked real estate game'' types tbh. Would be totally sensible for Trump to pick an AG who's the equivalent of Harriet Miers. A loyalist, not necessarily a name we've ever heard of, specifically to shield himself from whatever's coming at the office legally.
― dustalo springsteen (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link
http://www.vox.com/polyarchy/2016/11/15/13637936/anti-semitic-propaganda
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link
is there a different thread where we've been covering Zuckerberg's non-apologies for Facebook's outsized influence on the election & the pile on of angry rejoinders?
http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/11/donald-trump-won-because-of-facebook.htmlhttps://www.wired.com/2016/11/facebook-alone-didnt-create-trump-click-economy/https://shift.newco.co/im-sorry-mr-zuckerberg-but-you-are-wrong-65dbf8513424#.eqs30faco
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link
nomar, you stop that.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:49 (seven years ago) link
I'm half-convinced that he's going to start recruiting death row inmates for cabinet positions at this point.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link
Trump will pardon the cops before there can be an investigation, and he'll spike in popularity.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link
is that after all the patriot gun squads have come out and shot up the town or before
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link
Have we posted this yet?
DNC Aiming To Reconnect With Working-Class Americans With New ‘Hamilton’-Inspired Lena Dunham Web Series
― (rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link
https://nplusonemag.com/online-only/election/what-are-we-trying-to-figure-out
― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link
xpost I can't express to you the degree of relief I felt when I hovered over the link and confirmed that it was indeed an Onion article. My critical faculties are completely blown out at this point.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:22 (seven years ago) link
Funny but we're rapidly approaching Peak LOL Liberals Read Books
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/305920-two-presidential-electors-to-colleagues-dump-trump
thought at first this was a true case of faithless electors but nah it's just two democratic electors
― 龜, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link
oh the pushed down stairs thing looks more complicated. the person who did it was apparently not a trump supporter, but someone who progressives are friendly with and a disabled rights advocate who, due to their condition, freaked out. the person pushed down the stairs is trying to get the message out and control the story and make sure no charges are pressed.
― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link
You all know I say what I feel without filters and I have to say that I feel the prospect of a Trump presidency looks problematic at best
― Evan, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link
― Kiarostami bag (milo z),
Just three weeks ago I was snickering at the number of anti-Bush books groaning on the uni library shelf, most published between 2002-2005.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link
Could someone explain the whole "sanctuary cities" thing? I don't think I'd even heard the term until Trump made an issue of it.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link
usu it's a city that doesn't use municipal $ to enforce immigration laws and where cops don't ask abt immigration status
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link
i think hitler coined that term.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link
it reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_of_Refuge
― Mordy, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link
McCain Warns Against Russian Reset
"With the U.S. presidential transition underway, Vladimir Putin has said in recent days that he wants to improve relations with the United States. We should place as much faith in such statements as any other made by a former KGB agent who has plunged his country into tyranny, murdered his political opponents, invaded his neighbors, threatened America's allies, and attempted to undermine America's elections," the Arizona senator said in a statement, without any apparent irony or self-reflection.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link
(The last bit added by me for emphasis, just for the sake of clarity and to hopefully forestall the complete collapse of factual reality.)
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link
nobody cares what McCain says
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link
thx for Caribou Barbie, you "honorable" captured guy
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link
It's less about caring what he says and more about the fact that he's halfway describing the dude he endorsed for president, who in turn spent his entire campaign showing clear favor for Putin.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link
oh I got that, believe me
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:52 PM
haha i loled
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link
McCain, Graham and Cruz all on the Armed Services committee, Dems could probably work w them to frustrate any stupid major foreign policy blunders re: Russia
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link
Really, how eager is the GOP to make nice with Russia? Maybe if it leads to some bilateral plan to carve up the Middle East?
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, I'm sure Putin would give them whatever they wanted. He seems like a pretty equitable dude that way.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link
xxp:Could they? What's the likelihood of Congress voting to halt funding for military action already in progress.
The imperial presidency created during Truman's tenure means Congress is reduced to performing policy autopsies.
― Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link
obviously they can't stop Trump from putting planes in the air and dropping bombs, but the power of the purse isn't nothing
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link
one more data point: the forclosure crisis was the unaddressed drag on obama's tenure and may have cost hillary too
https://mathbabe.org/2016/11/14/guest-post-the-foreclosure-vote/
― goole, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link
Cue constituent howls of "not supporting the troops".
Under the War Powers Act, the president has 90 days after introducing troops into hostilities to obtain congressional approval of that action. It looks good on paper, but presidents have generally ignored the War Powers Act, citing Article II, Section 2 as their authority to send soldiers into combat.
― Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:13 (seven years ago) link
I'd figure the numbers on Trump's promises will start to add up quick. You got to figure it would cost probably 2-3 billion to try and deport 2-3 million people. That would only be a cost of legal and logistics of $1000 a case and I would figure that it could cost lots more per case than that.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link