Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

It's happening already. The joeks about his terrible taste in sofas and cutlery were old before Nov. 8.

and the goddamn size of his hands, who gives a fuck

as the GOP dismantles the architecture of the liberal federal govt lol I'm thinking no, that would require a plan

again, please go and tell everyone you know to apply! https://apply.ptt.gov/ (the content of that entire form and the backend it feeds was built long before they knew who would win, just in case that wasn't obvious)

They honestly just learned this week that they need like 3000 people. They did not know they needed to hire 3000 people. They need to hire hundreds of people between now and February. They have no idea who should be doing what. Put your name in the hat!

The problems, as I see them, were:

1.) Hillary's messaging centered too much on personality -- both hers and Trump's -- even though people didn't especially like her. She lacked a unifying, graspable message beyond experience and the glass ceiling. People were unaware that her platform was actually super dope.
2.) The media misrepresented her "scandals" to drive ratings and to create an appearancepf balance in an election that pitted a distinguished stateswoman against a notorious con artist and race baiter. Perhaps more significantly, garbage right wing conspiracy sotrs infilitrated the nation's news feeds. This contributed to the cloud of mistrust surrounding her, which tarnished her image even among non-deplorables.
3.) tens of millions of people in America are truly reckless and would rather have their anger validated than see anything productive happen in their government. Maybe their bitterness is justified, to a point, but their tolerance of racism, misogyny and lying is not acceptable.

Hillary didn't count on 3.) especially, hence her ads, which hinged on the idea that people would recognize that Trump's unfitness to lead was self evident

Tombot, Paul Ryan and the GOP congress have that plan dude.

The only potential saving grace is that Trump isn't one of them. He may actually turn out to be better than a Cruz or a Rubio if his arrogance and narcissism means he blocks some of their agenda. OTOH he may be too bumbling and lazy and clueless and easy to manipulate for that to be the case.

yes and their plan is "Step 1. Burn down the most popular program in the government"

I know, and I sure hope the third rail effect works, but I've been burned a lot of times by now thinking "The GOP are stupid and I'm just gonna sit back and watch them play themselves"

still think the media treating this entire election like an episode of WWE Raw contributed a lot to Hillary's loss

take 5 minutes to play around with this.

http://graphics.wsj.com/blue-feed-red-feed/

lol, one of the popular conservative outlets is "Western Journalism" (WJ), which chose the exact same font for its logo as Wall Street Journal (WSJ) so that it appears more legitimate

re: Trump anxiety/depression/fear, the moment it all started to turn on tuesday night around 9:30pm EST, it really felt exactly like the gradual slipping into a nightmare that was the morning of 9/11. i've been listening to "Imagine" a lot, late at night, loud, over and over.

Maybe their bitterness is justified, to a point, but their tolerance of racism, misogyny and lying is not acceptable.

― Treeship, Sunday, November 13, 2016 10:50 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sorry to pick here, but what is this "not acceptable" refrain. i mean -- how precisely are you (anyone saying this) going to not accept it? people aren't asking for you to accept their views and actions. they're living lives in which you personally play no role. how does one choose not to accept it. is there a form you refuse to sign. does this mean unfriending on facebook, it feels pretty empty as a statement imho. will ppl tell their grandkids "the world went to shit, but i said it was not acceptable so..."

it means before they were ok, but now everything has changed

Internalized racism and self-hatred are real. I

If I lived within 10 blocks of 725 5th Ave, I'd consider now as the top of the market and sell.

Among many ugly things that will transpire over the next 4 years, I wouldn't be surprised if the secret service opens up on some egg-throwers with their motorcade minigun.

uh don't know how that happened. sorry guys!

"sorry to pick here, but what is this "not acceptable" refrain. i mean -- how precisely are you (anyone saying this) going to not accept it? people aren't asking for you to accept their views and actions. they're living lives in which you personally play no role. how does one choose not to accept it. is there a form you refuse to sign. does this mean unfriending on facebook, it feels pretty empty as a statement imho. will ppl tell their grandkids "the world went to shit, but i said it was not acceptable so..."

― the klosterman weekend (s.clover)"

i think that contemporary methods of resistance and dissent are pretty well documented by now.

"No, in the long perspective, a lot of them probably were spousal rapists, and Andrew Jackson straight up killed a guy for insulting him.

― Frederik B"

on the other hand about the favorite thing of mine andrew jackson ever did was threatening to have his vice president hanged as a traitor, so...

"P.S. I am melting down and worrying about my long-term physical health and starting to sincerely wonder whether I'm going to survive four years of this.

― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch)"

how much local support do you have? because we're all going to need lots of it. the internet sure as hell isn't going to do anything to keep us alive and functional.

"i think that contemporary methods of resistance and dissent are pretty well documented by now."

sorry, let me be more clear. step one is that when people say shit like that, we call them on it. i've lived in a country where people say horrible things about other people all the time and a lot of us, myself included, have let it pass because we don't want to make trouble. i, and a lot of the people i talk to, are fucking over it. i don't wear a safety pin as a feel-good gesture, but as a sworn oath.

what guvmint department do you see me in, El Tomboto?

(that's called a softball)

rushomancy, I'm keeping it together for the most part, and do have support, but there's some familiar dark existential dread creeping in. I'm doing what I can to keep it at bay.

One of the bitterest ironies that just occurred to me this morning is all the pooh-poohing of the false equivalency between the Brexit referendum and the presidential election. 'Apples and oranges!' Which is true, except that if it had been a straight referendum, Clinton would have won. Hmm.

re: Trump anxiety/depression/fear, the moment it all started to turn on tuesday night around 9:30pm EST, it really felt exactly like the gradual slipping into a nightmare that was the morning of 9/11. i've been listening to "Imagine" a lot, late at night, loud, over and over.

I remember a few months ago someone like Bill Mitchell put up a mocked-up graphic of Trump winning the presidency on CNN, and just having such a visceral reaction to it. Like it made me sick. But I was relieved to think, ha ha, no way. I mean I was hopeful for a while that the models would bear out - MSNBC was saying "Republicans always get comfortable early on before all the results from the urban cities come in" - but once I saw Trump winning all these rural counties by a 3-to-1 margin I was like...it's not going to be enough

It took a couple of days, but I did eventually come around after Tuesday night and started to feel at least okay, trying to be hopeful and constructive and to move forward and take positive action to counteract the effects of this. But every tweet about the unfairness of 1st amendment rights and news story about appointing maniacs to the cabinet and report that Trump obviously had NO FUCKING IDEA what he was getting into because he's exhibited zero curiosity about anything ever has knocked the wind out of me all over again. Every day, I wake up to the reality that we're about to have a president as unimaginable as Ernest P. Worrell, and that he's rushing to fulfill every OTT worst case scenario that's been forecast, that he's learned nothing and will learn nothing and that the very best we can hope for is that people don't piss him off and make him lash out.

And so it begins: some of our best friends, the family of my younger daughter's best friend, had been considering a move to Malaysia, for work but also just for a change of pace, and I think this election has finally helped them make up their mind. They're black, with two young kids keenly aware of the campaign, and it just broke their heart. I hope they stay, but at the same time I understand, and would probably at least consider a similar move if given the chance.

On a more symbolic level, the towering but diseased hundred-plus foot elm tree in front of our house is currently being chainsawed down to its stump.

but once I saw Trump winning all these rural counties by a 3-to-1 margin I was like...it's not going to be enough

Something useful about Facebook--you can look back at your messages and track where you started to feel queasy. Sent this to a friend at 9:20 p.m., Tuesday night:

"I know it all has to do with where the outstanding vote is, but surely Democrats are a little panicked with Trump leading in Florida, NC, Virginia, and Ohio."

not really seeing the usefulness in that tbh

you can look at your posts in the election day thread too. I remember panicking about Florida and Alfred telling me to relax.

http://67.media.tumblr.com/f3dba3fe6c4983aca7b117c836415834/tumblr_ny8y8yJXZk1trti5do1_500.jpg

It's probably useful to remember that Trump wasn't getting its info from CNN, NBC, MSNBC, or any of the other media outlets that people are now criticizing for normalizing or not shouting down Trump enough. They share some blame, for sure, because they fueled his strategy of running on social media reach, and maybe should have done more to get their own viewership concerned and active, but there's something else going on here as well.

*Trump's BASE

At least all the dank Joe Biden memes going around are giving me the few laughs I'm capable of getting right now.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxJ2uH2WgAAvfnq.jpg

My whole family, kids and all, is heading to DC for the January 21st Women's March on Washington. My mom'll be there, too, as well as my wife's parents.

Biden: Ideally I'd like to include traps from all of the Home Alone movies, but we've only got two months so the Home Alone 2 plan is fine

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxB4DGhXgAQJ6CW.jpg

In the electoral college, white votes matter more:

http://cepr.net/blogs/beat-the-press/in-the-electoral-college-white-votes-matter-more?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+beat_the_press+%28Beat+the+Press%29

you can look at your posts in the election day thread too. I remember panicking about Florida and Alfred telling me to relax.

― frogbs, Monday, November 14, 2016 10:03 AM

:(

got this notice from the principal at my daughter's school last night:

Dear parents and guardians,
The BVHM community is uniting and participating in a “March Against Fear.” We will show our students and our families that the election of Donald Trump, who has espoused racists, sexist and anti-immigrant hatred, will not instill fear in our community. We will be stronger and more determined than ever to fight for justice for all our BVHM family.

Opening Rally: 9:30-9:50 at the yard
March: 9:50-10:45 (24th to Valencia, Valencia to 18th, 18th to Mission, Mission to 24th)
Closing Rally: 10:45-11:10 at the yard

Tomorrow we will distribute permission slips to participate in the march and you are invited to attend our planning meeting tomorrow at 4pm in room 305. Together we are stronger!

nice

guys i'm trying to keep it posi but trump's reaction to the next police shooting :o

not sure if you mean the next time a cop gets shot by a crazy white dude or the next time cops shoot an innocent black person

The thing that scares the shit out of me is that I'm p sure we'll get a recession in like the next two years. I already thought it was coming anyway. If it's just a mild recession, maybe it favors dems, allows them to clean house, but if it's really, really bad, like a financial crisis, fuck.

My whole family, kids and all, is heading to DC for the January 21st Women's March on Washington. My mom'll be there, too, as well as my wife's parents.

I had not heard of this, what are the details

I don't think trump can use a financial crisis to declare martial law or whatever. a lot of people voted him in on promises of prosperity, and that's the issue he'll be held most accountable on.

xp to Shakey

National Event Page: https://www.facebook.com/events/2169332969958991/

California organizing page: https://www.facebook.com/events/214100499025206

has everyone signed this

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/we-people-ask-president-obama-immediately-appoint-merrick-garland-supreme-court

thx Phil

It is such incredible BS that Garland wasn't confirmed. Really resembling the GOP for this one.

This was one of the "see other popular polls" when I clicked that link:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/ban-song-meet-flockers-public-media-and-investigate-legal-responsibilities-yg

It's probably useful to remember that Trump wasn't getting its info from CNN, NBC, MSNBC, or any of the other media outlets that people are now criticizing for normalizing or not shouting down Trump enough. They share some blame, for sure, because they fueled his strategy of running on social media reach, and maybe should have done more to get their own viewership concerned and active, but there's something else going on here as well.

Yeah I'm not sure how much we should blame the "lamestream media" - after the birther stunt they got quite harsh on Trump, and rightfully so. Of course that all went out the window cuz emails, but whatever. Either way they did make it clear at a certain point that Trump was generally full of shit, and honestly I think among people who actually watched the news Trump fared pretty poorly. The proliferation of fake news on Facebook really affected this election - I was pretty surprised to find out how many people I thought of as rational just accepted that Hillary had several people killed.

stay focused here

xp

The establishment that's currently normalizing Trump, I really don't think they give a crap if there's a recession/depression because of him. It didn't do any real damage to them when the 2008 crash happened, and that's all that matters. These people are so insulated from the consequences of their actions and decisions, and so isolated from average Americans, that we aren't along for the ride with them whatever they decide, and they hold all the reins of power, from the media to the federal government. We mean nothing to these people. White, middle class, working class, black, Jewish, Muslim, women... none of us matter, our concerns don't matter, our lives don't matter at all to these people, and we have almost no power or say in how they lead us or what they do to us. The last thread holding things together is legitimacy of rule, and now that Trump is in, it's starting to unravel into something scary, and not surprisingly, the establishment doesn't really give a crap.

The New York Times preferred Trump over Sanders, if you don't remember that, and I'm sure they still do. To the media, the political establishment, and the business establishment, Trump is better news than someone like Sanders who calls them out. The only way anything decent is going to happen for people is by them acknowledging this and working outside the establishment for each other. Having a sense of learned helplessness is understandable when assuming we have a contract with the powers that be to work together, but we don't. So until people understand that this establishment is actually an adversary at the bargaining table, things aren't going to get better. /rant

ex-breitbart ben shapiro on bannon

http://www.dailywire.com/news/8441/i-know-trumps-new-campaign-chairman-steve-bannon-ben-shapiro#

http://www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2015/12/Paul-Ryan1.jpg

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