Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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(sorry for all the dictation typos)

Dan S, Sunday, 13 November 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link

Now I'm conflicted because I do think we need powerful voices of dissent.

When you find one, let the rest of us know.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link

someone needs to put some ground-up shrooms on Donald Trump's Whopper Jr. right before the inauguration.

qop (crüt), Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:17 (seven years ago) link

would prefer ground up glass, personally

sarahell, Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link

I appreciate the quiet NYT joeks:

At times, Mr. Priebus, whose first name rhymes with “pints,”

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:35 (seven years ago) link

????

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:38 (seven years ago) link

oh, first name

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link

NYT can't beat Charles Pierce's moniker ("Obvious anagram Reince Preibus")

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link

uric penis beer

qop (crüt), Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link

epic brine user

Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:59 (seven years ago) link

Can't see a link anywhere to this Ezra Klein piece--excellent.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/11/13578618/why-did-trump-win

"It's easy to come up with stories where Clinton could have gained 2 points, or to theorize that another candidate could have gained 4. But on the merits, this should have been 60-40, or 50-40-10...I can’t confidently explain his win."

clemenza, Sunday, 13 November 2016 23:09 (seven years ago) link

he won because of the electoral college. he lost the popular vote. can we stop trying to explain something that didn't happen in terms other than the stupid procedural relic that actually led to this?

El Tomboto, Sunday, 13 November 2016 23:14 (seven years ago) link

Guys.

This is the worst thing I've read this weekend -- and not unexpected.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/ryan-plans-to-phase-out-medicare-in-2017

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 November 2016 23:19 (seven years ago) link

Can't imagine the AARP and all the other old-people won't melt down at that.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 13 November 2016 23:20 (seven years ago) link

Seriously

flopson, Sunday, 13 November 2016 23:27 (seven years ago) link

Honestly that's given me more hope than most stories I've read in the last 5 days, if there's anything that sends a message to Trump voters of "this is what these fuckers will do to you if you give them enough power" it's that.

JoeStork, Sunday, 13 November 2016 23:27 (seven years ago) link

He's such a vacant piece of shit

El Tomboto, Sunday, 13 November 2016 23:28 (seven years ago) link

But this won't affect Trump's voter base. It's the rest of us.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 November 2016 23:29 (seven years ago) link

Democrats however should act as if we're all in danger.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 November 2016 23:29 (seven years ago) link

SS privatization didn't go well for the GOP IIRC

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 13 November 2016 23:30 (seven years ago) link

yeah there is no surer way to sink trump's first term + the republican congress than attacking medicare. there are *tons* of things they can get away with because they affect people indirectly instead of directly e.g. gutting dodd frank, anything global warming. starting things out by touching medicare is suicidal and only someone who's a true-believer like ryan would attempt it.

and I mean whatever if they succeed they'll probably just end up killing all of their voters anyway.

iatee, Sunday, 13 November 2016 23:31 (seven years ago) link

But this won't affect Trump's voter base. It's the rest of us.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

ALfred's right, they are going to phase it out for anybody who wants to GO on Medicare going forward, not for the people who already have it

i.e. my wife, who plans to retire within 4 years.

sleeve, Sunday, 13 November 2016 23:33 (seven years ago) link

dubya's social security plan was similarly phase in. didn't matter.

iatee, Sunday, 13 November 2016 23:35 (seven years ago) link

If you want to accept the narrative of working-class whites yada yada yada, I'd say that the only government programs most have actually seen and understood clearly were Medicare and Social Security. Phase-in, immediate stop, whatever, most people instinctively know those things as the checks and care that kept grandma and grandpa alive.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 13 November 2016 23:38 (seven years ago) link

didn't Trump stress that he wouldn't change Medicare? just don't see this happening but hey, anything is possible now

Sharkie, Sunday, 13 November 2016 23:40 (seven years ago) link

Maybe Ryan thinks if they only have a 2-year window then this is his only chance to get that one thing he's always more than anything in the world

El Tomboto, Sunday, 13 November 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link

can we stop trying to explain something that didn't happen in terms other than the stupid procedural relic that actually led to this?

I think that's an issue separate from what Klein's trying to figure out, which is why it wasn't "60-40, or 50-40-10."

clemenza, Sunday, 13 November 2016 23:58 (seven years ago) link

they are going to phase it out for anybody who wants to GO on Medicare going forward, not for the people who already have it

demographics are really working against this idea.

sarahell, Monday, 14 November 2016 00:05 (seven years ago) link

The only glimmer of hope in this beyond the obvious overreach: it's possible Ryan wasn't even consulting Trump on this matter, so disorganized and lazy is Trump's transition.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 November 2016 00:06 (seven years ago) link

It's not below for a President Trump to dismiss in public even someone of his own putative party. I see this a lot in 2017, actually, especially if the polls show that this dissent plays well with his new Wisconsin constituency.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 November 2016 00:07 (seven years ago) link

*it's not below the line, that is

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 November 2016 00:08 (seven years ago) link

good lord that guy even looks like Goebbels!

sarahell, Monday, 14 November 2016 00:16 (seven years ago) link

60 Minutes on now

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 November 2016 00:29 (seven years ago) link

oh god

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 November 2016 00:43 (seven years ago) link

would it surprise anyone if ryan is looking at trump like an easily manipulable boy king

qualx, Monday, 14 November 2016 00:47 (seven years ago) link

The police report about Steve Bannon for domestic violence, if anyone is interested: http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000156-c3f8-dd14-abfe-fbfbbe310001

Steve Bannon should be rejected for so many reasons, but that a report like this exists for a special adviser to the president elect is not normal.

Frederik B, Monday, 14 November 2016 00:49 (seven years ago) link

Donald Trump raped his ex wife.

Treeship, Monday, 14 November 2016 00:58 (seven years ago) link

It makes sense that a vicious thug would surround himself with similar types of people.

Treeship, Monday, 14 November 2016 00:59 (seven years ago) link

extravagantly wealthy men who have never heard the word no

Clay, Monday, 14 November 2016 01:07 (seven years ago) link

Well, yeah, and it's not normal to have a vicious thug in the white house, obviously. But you'd think the media would think the pick of Bannon would be a scandal because of that report. But no.

'New Trump appointee has a history of domestic violence

...yadayadayada....

The president elect himself was accused by his first ex-wife of spousal rape in 1991, and during the election a taped recording showed him bragging about getting away with sexual assault. Later ten women came forth with accusations of sexual assault.

Steve Bannon is expected to start at...'

Like, that's the story. That's why if you've got a history of attacks against women, you don't hire people with a history of attacks against women as your special adviser.

Argh, I'm going insane, why am I writing this to you? As if anyone here disagrees. As if anyone in the media disagrees. And yet they won't write about it.

Frederik B, Monday, 14 November 2016 01:09 (seven years ago) link

Don't worry, the fun cover story on Bannon in next week's People will help us all see what a good choice he is. Look, he's relaxing in a pool, just like regular folks!

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Monday, 14 November 2016 01:12 (seven years ago) link

P.S. I am melting down and worrying about my long-term physical health and starting to sincerely wonder whether I'm going to survive four years of this.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Monday, 14 November 2016 01:14 (seven years ago) link

it's not normal to have a vicious thug in the white house

Are we sure about this, really? I feel like we're deciding to treat mid-20th Century values (like, say, FDR through LBJ) as the norm. Trump is probably not all that different from politicians of the 19th and early 20th Centuries.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 14 November 2016 01:20 (seven years ago) link

the office had less power during those periods

iatee, Monday, 14 November 2016 01:21 (seven years ago) link

Andrews Jackson and Johnson, Harding, and Nixon are three of the most perfidious Oval Office inhabitants, but at least Harding had a sentimental streak.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 November 2016 01:21 (seven years ago) link

No, in the long perspective, a lot of them probably were spousal rapists, and Andrew Jackson straight up killed a guy for insulting him.

Frederik B, Monday, 14 November 2016 01:31 (seven years ago) link

i see that 60 minutes has decided to get into the PR business

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Monday, 14 November 2016 01:36 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT0Rjc6jKCg

van smack, Monday, 14 November 2016 01:37 (seven years ago) link


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