Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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The current head of the USSS is not going to allow them to become a terror organization. He could be replaced, sure, but I consider that pretty unlikely.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 13 November 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link

No, but what if there is a gun, one gun, in the crowd.

Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Sunday, 13 November 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link

he will skype with everyone from his penthouse bunker and order delivery.

make seamless great again

maura, Sunday, 13 November 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link

xp Their mode of operation is still defense rather than offense - it's kind of central to what they are?

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 13 November 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link

imo we have enough to do dealing with "what is" to really bother worrying too much about "what if"

sleeve, Sunday, 13 November 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link

Yup

qop (crüt), Sunday, 13 November 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link

The USSS haven't had to defend such a divisive character since their foundation in 1901. Most, of course, are conscientious. Some are as partisan as the NY FBI.

If I were an USSS officer, my life would be easier with HRC, a person who would elicit actions from deranged individuals, but not ongoing mass protests that will occur with regularity. If there's benign weather, the inauguration route in DC on January 20 will be thronged with protesters, from any group Trump has insulted, which is close to everyone.

That doesn't end on January 20. When you've alienated everyone but insular white males, and plan policies that harm everyone but insular white males, it creates a lot of anger.

Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Sunday, 13 November 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link

No, but what if there is a gun, one gun, in the crowd.

― Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Sunday, November 13, 2016 6:50 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I keep thinking about Conintelpro and other agitator/Agent provocateur stuff. If there isn't one they could very easily place one or say there was one couldn't they?

Or place somebody that looks vaguely like a protestor who is willing to start throwing heavy things or breaking things and goading others into joining in. Has been done before.

Stevolende, Sunday, 13 November 2016 19:12 (seven years ago) link

make seamless great again

― maura, Sunday, November 13, 2016 10:52 AM (twenty-three minutes ago)

aren't they owned by GrubHub, which was pretty much, "uh, if you support Trump, you probably shouldn't be working here?" Otoh, they are an example of the "gig economy" as far as the drivers go, which is something that Trump's tax plan seems to support.

sarahell, Sunday, 13 November 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link

Okay, I'm now a WP subscriber for 52 weeks. Liberal media, you win.

Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Sunday, 13 November 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link

man I wish we could get the print version of that on the West Coast

sleeve, Sunday, 13 November 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I've been thinking the same thing. WaPo subscription rate is a little high for digital only but I'm probably gonna bite the bullet nonetheless when I can afford to.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Sunday, 13 November 2016 19:27 (seven years ago) link

Not exactly the biggest NYT fan at the moment but posted this on FB this morning:

'One tiny bit of regular activism you can engage in: every time Trump petulantly tweets about (and, now in his position as president-elect, attempts to delegitimize) a person or organization or institution, give them money. When he whines that the 1st amendment is unfair, donate $5 to the ACLU. When he criticizes the New York Times, buy a copy or subscribe. Support every entity that opposes him, and strengthen every right to which he is opposed.'

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Sunday, 13 November 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link

ah sarahell i wasn't thinking that deeply (although i feel like their coming together was a merger?). i just associate the part of manhattan where trump tower is located with seamless because that neighborhood was where i first heard about it many years ago.

also: yeah they merged in 2013:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324787004578495411888526172

maura, Sunday, 13 November 2016 19:34 (seven years ago) link

i just figured he'd opt for more upscale food delivery

sarahell, Sunday, 13 November 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link

He's just gonna be ordering room service taco bowls.

Fetchboy, Sunday, 13 November 2016 19:56 (seven years ago) link

I never cease to be amused that one reason Trump seems to favor fast food is that at least it won't be spit or pissed upon.

Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Sunday, 13 November 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link

Maybe tombot would have the most insider knowledge on this, but how delusional am I to think that any Russian influence is going to be blunted (or exposed) by intelligence bureaucrats?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 13 November 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link

buncha leftists on twitter were performatively announcing that they were unsubcribing from nyt just yesterday. not looking so noble after that Kellyanne Conway tweet

flopson, Sunday, 13 November 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link

there is a lot of performativity going on on social media atm

sarahell, Sunday, 13 November 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link

IMO, intelligence bureaucrats will brief the President on any Russian shenanigans, as is proper, and if/when he waves them off and tells them they're wrong and dumb, "who knows?"

El Tomboto, Sunday, 13 November 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link

I never cease to be amused that one reason Trump seems to favor fast food is that at least it won't be spit or pissed upon.

the false confidence of a man who has never worked in the fast food industry

not all those who chunder are sloshed (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 13 November 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link

urgh god.. 3 more Trump debates on tv in 2020.

piscesx, Sunday, 13 November 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

you guys maybe trump cooks when he's at home, maybe he's a doting chef who sources locally and says things like "parboil" when the cameras are off

(sorry just amusing myself imagining this guy has ever done anything caring or positive on a human scale)

Clay, Sunday, 13 November 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link

The entire national security apparatus probably looks at Trump as a security risk right now. How many time will "the book" omit sources, how many will it omit unflattering comments from the rest of the world.

Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Sunday, 13 November 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link

does he have a pet?

sarahell, Sunday, 13 November 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link

you guys maybe trump cooks when he's at home, maybe he's a doting chef who sources locally and says things like "parboil" when the cameras are off

(sorry just amusing myself imagining this guy has ever done anything caring or positive on a human scale)

― Clay

god, this is where we're at. we're trying to imagine positive qualities that trump might theoretically have, and the best we can say is "well, maybe he parboils things!"

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Sunday, 13 November 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link

Despite his willingness to physically abuse and objectify them, I think Trump sort of kind of cares about the members of his family, to the extent that his personality disorders allow him to do so.

This is an extremely compromised D- on the positive qualities scale but it is literally all I can come up with.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Sunday, 13 November 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link

well I was joking based on the insistence that he orders in, the impossibility that anyone could imagine he actually cooks for himself and his family seemed somehow, in itself, a kind of vision of his monstrousness to me.

like how could this guy so much as throw some noodles in some boiling water. I'm not looking for something good, I'm seeing that it's not there. xps

Clay, Sunday, 13 November 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link

Linda McMahon for Commerce

Jeff Probst for Secretary of the Interior?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 13 November 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link

They're just trolling us at this point.

Fetchboy, Sunday, 13 November 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link

Some sobering perspective on his destructive plan to immediately deport 2-3 million "criminals:" there are currently 2.2 million people *in jail already.*

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 November 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link

Deport or imprison, I believe. It's ok, he'll just get the bad ones.

JoeStork, Sunday, 13 November 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link

bannon will be named senior counselor and this is what really terrifies me

Clay, Sunday, 13 November 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link

Priebus named as cos

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Sunday, 13 November 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link

Is Bannon a lawyer? I don't see how he can become chief White House Counsel

Fuck the New York Times and Washington Post. I won't ever forget September 16, when Trump called his ridiculous press conference to announce the Clinton had started the birther lie. The New York Times had some repulsive headline, that suggested that he was "setting the record straight". instead of calling him out for the dirtbike he is. It wasn't until readers screamed at them in the comment section is that they change the headline to "unfurling of a lie". I told myself at that moment I would cancel my subscription if he won the election. Now I'm conflicted become a because I do think we need powerful voices of dissent.

Dan S, Sunday, 13 November 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link

Dirtbag lol

Dan S, Sunday, 13 November 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link

(sorry for all the dictation typos)

Dan S, Sunday, 13 November 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link

Now I'm conflicted because I do think we need powerful voices of dissent.

When you find one, let the rest of us know.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link

someone needs to put some ground-up shrooms on Donald Trump's Whopper Jr. right before the inauguration.

qop (crüt), Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:17 (seven years ago) link

would prefer ground up glass, personally

sarahell, Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link

I appreciate the quiet NYT joeks:

At times, Mr. Priebus, whose first name rhymes with “pints,”

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:35 (seven years ago) link

????

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:38 (seven years ago) link

oh, first name

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link

NYT can't beat Charles Pierce's moniker ("Obvious anagram Reince Preibus")

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link

uric penis beer

qop (crüt), Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link

epic brine user

Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:59 (seven years ago) link

Can't see a link anywhere to this Ezra Klein piece--excellent.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/11/13578618/why-did-trump-win

"It's easy to come up with stories where Clinton could have gained 2 points, or to theorize that another candidate could have gained 4. But on the merits, this should have been 60-40, or 50-40-10...I can’t confidently explain his win."

clemenza, Sunday, 13 November 2016 23:09 (seven years ago) link


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