Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

I'm just going to say re: WP, Jeff Bezos may deserve a debt of gratitude from all of us before this is over.

Jeff! 2020

this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's going to do or how he's going to do it; ryan and pence are going to call all the shots

So what are you going to do about it, Paul Ryan, you turncoat asshole? Make that frown face when he starts doing it? Fuck all these people.

(tbf Obama's been deporting people like crazy and no one has really said shit.)

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I'm subscribing to the post this weekend.

Since apparently all journalism these days only responds to profit

sorry i've been kind of checked out of this thread. i'm still doing lots of writing, but i feel like it's too polemical to be appropriate for this thread, so i just keep posting it to that new blog i made. nine new posts today. at some point i'm sure i'll slow down, i'm not really a long-haul writer.

Good morning. Giuliani said conflict of interest laws don't apply to the President (true), Conway said Harry Reid should watch out for legal consequences to his words, and Trump had a twitter meltdown about the New York Times and insists he never said a thing he said several times on live television. I think we're done with give him a chance to be presidential already, right?

Wait, is the conflict of interest thing really true?

Practical question: if this shit head truly split his time between the White House and Trump Tower, how is that even feasible? Multiple times a day he will disrupt Manhattan with a motorcade? He will have to surround the place and neighborhood with a phalanx of missile-armed security? He will cohabitant with hundreds of civilians? He will have neighbors? All in the center of a dense city where no one likes him and one person could probably mobilize thousands of protesters in a matter of minutes?

Why would he consider any of that a problem?

Not him. I don't think he considers any of it a problem. But it is a problem for security, New York City, etc.

Nixon practically lived in Key Biscayne recall.

And the taxpayer pays for all of it

Practical question: if this shit head truly split his time between the White House and Trump Tower, how is that even feasible? Multiple times a day he will disrupt Manhattan with a motorcade? He will have to surround the place and neighborhood with a phalanx of missile-armed security? He will cohabitant with hundreds of civilians? He will have neighbors? All in the center of a dense city where no one likes him and one person could probably mobilize thousands of protesters in a matter of minutes?

― Josh in Chicago

i'm not sure this will ever sink in, not just for liberals but a lot of conservatives, but:

pence is running the day-to-day operations of the federal government. not trump.

ugh, fuck me, i just reacted to the first sentence and didn't read the rest. sorry. i don't know how any of this will work. he will skype with everyone from his penthouse bunker and order delivery.

pence is running the day-to-day operations of the federal government. not trump

god help me but this is what i consider the best-case scenario and i'm consider it unreasonably optimistic to let myself believe it.

If I lived within 10 blocks of 725 5th Ave, I'd consider now as the top of the market and sell.

Among many ugly things that will transpire over the next 4 years, I wouldn't be surprised if the secret service opens up on some egg-throwers with their motorcade minigun.

The current head of the USSS is not going to allow them to become a terror organization. He could be replaced, sure, but I consider that pretty unlikely.

No, but what if there is a gun, one gun, in the crowd.

he will skype with everyone from his penthouse bunker and order delivery.

make seamless great again

xp Their mode of operation is still defense rather than offense - it's kind of central to what they are?

imo we have enough to do dealing with "what is" to really bother worrying too much about "what if"

Yup

The USSS haven't had to defend such a divisive character since their foundation in 1901. Most, of course, are conscientious. Some are as partisan as the NY FBI.

If I were an USSS officer, my life would be easier with HRC, a person who would elicit actions from deranged individuals, but not ongoing mass protests that will occur with regularity. If there's benign weather, the inauguration route in DC on January 20 will be thronged with protesters, from any group Trump has insulted, which is close to everyone.

That doesn't end on January 20. When you've alienated everyone but insular white males, and plan policies that harm everyone but insular white males, it creates a lot of anger.

No, but what if there is a gun, one gun, in the crowd.

― Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Sunday, November 13, 2016 6:50 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I keep thinking about Conintelpro and other agitator/Agent provocateur stuff. If there isn't one they could very easily place one or say there was one couldn't they?

Or place somebody that looks vaguely like a protestor who is willing to start throwing heavy things or breaking things and goading others into joining in. Has been done before.

make seamless great again

― maura, Sunday, November 13, 2016 10:52 AM (twenty-three minutes ago)

aren't they owned by GrubHub, which was pretty much, "uh, if you support Trump, you probably shouldn't be working here?" Otoh, they are an example of the "gig economy" as far as the drivers go, which is something that Trump's tax plan seems to support.

Okay, I'm now a WP subscriber for 52 weeks. Liberal media, you win.

man I wish we could get the print version of that on the West Coast

Yeah, I've been thinking the same thing. WaPo subscription rate is a little high for digital only but I'm probably gonna bite the bullet nonetheless when I can afford to.

Not exactly the biggest NYT fan at the moment but posted this on FB this morning:

'One tiny bit of regular activism you can engage in: every time Trump petulantly tweets about (and, now in his position as president-elect, attempts to delegitimize) a person or organization or institution, give them money. When he whines that the 1st amendment is unfair, donate $5 to the ACLU. When he criticizes the New York Times, buy a copy or subscribe. Support every entity that opposes him, and strengthen every right to which he is opposed.'

ah sarahell i wasn't thinking that deeply (although i feel like their coming together was a merger?). i just associate the part of manhattan where trump tower is located with seamless because that neighborhood was where i first heard about it many years ago.

also: yeah they merged in 2013:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324787004578495411888526172

i just figured he'd opt for more upscale food delivery

He's just gonna be ordering room service taco bowls.

I never cease to be amused that one reason Trump seems to favor fast food is that at least it won't be spit or pissed upon.

Maybe tombot would have the most insider knowledge on this, but how delusional am I to think that any Russian influence is going to be blunted (or exposed) by intelligence bureaucrats?

buncha leftists on twitter were performatively announcing that they were unsubcribing from nyt just yesterday. not looking so noble after that Kellyanne Conway tweet

there is a lot of performativity going on on social media atm

IMO, intelligence bureaucrats will brief the President on any Russian shenanigans, as is proper, and if/when he waves them off and tells them they're wrong and dumb, "who knows?"

I never cease to be amused that one reason Trump seems to favor fast food is that at least it won't be spit or pissed upon.

the false confidence of a man who has never worked in the fast food industry

urgh god.. 3 more Trump debates on tv in 2020.

you guys maybe trump cooks when he's at home, maybe he's a doting chef who sources locally and says things like "parboil" when the cameras are off

(sorry just amusing myself imagining this guy has ever done anything caring or positive on a human scale)

The entire national security apparatus probably looks at Trump as a security risk right now. How many time will "the book" omit sources, how many will it omit unflattering comments from the rest of the world.

does he have a pet?

you guys maybe trump cooks when he's at home, maybe he's a doting chef who sources locally and says things like "parboil" when the cameras are off

(sorry just amusing myself imagining this guy has ever done anything caring or positive on a human scale)

― Clay

god, this is where we're at. we're trying to imagine positive qualities that trump might theoretically have, and the best we can say is "well, maybe he parboils things!"

Despite his willingness to physically abuse and objectify them, I think Trump sort of kind of cares about the members of his family, to the extent that his personality disorders allow him to do so.

This is an extremely compromised D- on the positive qualities scale but it is literally all I can come up with.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/u6tscwklh9s3684gimgq.jpg

well I was joking based on the insistence that he orders in, the impossibility that anyone could imagine he actually cooks for himself and his family seemed somehow, in itself, a kind of vision of his monstrousness to me.

like how could this guy so much as throw some noodles in some boiling water. I'm not looking for something good, I'm seeing that it's not there. xps

Linda McMahon for Commerce

Jeff Probst for Secretary of the Interior?