Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

Trump’s popular vote deficit may approach two million\

Evidently, there are up to five million votes mail and provisional ballots still to be counted.

xp fuck this damn idiot. makes me more upset than anything else about this right now

But, emails.

When I step out of the house, I know that more than half my neighbors voted for this. It feels terrible to feel revulsion at your fellow Americans.

gah, wrong link: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-gov-transition-website-plugs-firm-s-properties-n682401

― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Sunday, November 13, 2016 12:13 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark

find myself rooting for christie here

Only one in four Americans voted for him. There were a lot who were content to just get out of the way and let him win though.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/797805407179866112

Time to get an NYT subscription yall

Occurred to me that a popular GOP tactic has always been to paint the cities as full of poor, urban, drug-addicted, jobless minorities, yet the alleged aggrieved in this election were ... poor, rural, drug-addicted, jobless white folks.

I can't believe the petty shithead is still tweeting. Is this how it's really going to be, after all that? He's going to be president, and he's still going to hold rallies and tweet about his enemies? Did anyone even tell him he won?

He hasn't won until everyone says he's the greatest

Why is trump meeting with farage? Maybe he'll quit after winning too? Jk lol :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5e6bOUCY4

Fuck the Times. The paper to watch is the Washington Post; it's a trade journal, and they fucking hate interlopers (remember how much they loathed the Clintons for being not-of-Washington). I think they're the paper that's really gonna have the knives out for Trump - wait and see whether David Farenthold becomes one of the reoccurring Sunday morning talk show faces, or gets demoted to covering dog shows.

they can start by investigating whether the trump campaign conspired with comey. the whole chronology of trumps's "it's rigged!" and comey's "hey, more emails!" and then comey's "whoops, my bad!" and then trump's "see -- it really is rigged!!!"

If newspapers stop treating Trump like he is dangerous then they are done. After all of this past several months of bullshit, if they maintain this illusion of equivalency and false objectivity in the face of truth and the public record, then fuck them forever, because we're all fucked, anyway.

Yeah wapo has been so much better than the nyt. Im hopeful they'll continue to keep it up....this is kinda journalisms last chance, in a way

BREAKING: President-elect Trump says will immediately start deportation or jailing of 2 to 3 million "criminal" immigrants - CBS interview

BREAKING: President-elect Trump renews vow to build a border wall on the border with Mexico, says for some portions it may be a fence - CBS

Don't do that

well that's a nice punch in the gut to start the day. this of course comes right on top of:

(CNN)House Speaker Paul Ryan said Sunday despite Donald Trump's campaign rhetoric, lawmakers are not prepared to form a deportation force to round-up and deport undocumented immigrants.

"We are not planning on erecting a deportation force. Donald Trump's not planning on that," Ryan told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union."

i hope this at least helps us nip in the bud the bullshit line of "well we should all chill for a couple months and see what he actually does now that the election's over!" fucking hell.

I'm just going to say re: WP, Jeff Bezos may deserve a debt of gratitude from all of us before this is over.

Jeff! 2020

this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's going to do or how he's going to do it; ryan and pence are going to call all the shots

So what are you going to do about it, Paul Ryan, you turncoat asshole? Make that frown face when he starts doing it? Fuck all these people.

(tbf Obama's been deporting people like crazy and no one has really said shit.)

http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/57366b3a91058423008c2d4d-1200/all-this-has-translated-to-higher-traffic-the-post-surpassed-the-new-york-times-in-us-unique-web-visitors-in-october-2015.jpg

I'm subscribing to the post this weekend.

Since apparently all journalism these days only responds to profit

sorry i've been kind of checked out of this thread. i'm still doing lots of writing, but i feel like it's too polemical to be appropriate for this thread, so i just keep posting it to that new blog i made. nine new posts today. at some point i'm sure i'll slow down, i'm not really a long-haul writer.

Good morning. Giuliani said conflict of interest laws don't apply to the President (true), Conway said Harry Reid should watch out for legal consequences to his words, and Trump had a twitter meltdown about the New York Times and insists he never said a thing he said several times on live television. I think we're done with give him a chance to be presidential already, right?

Wait, is the conflict of interest thing really true?

Practical question: if this shit head truly split his time between the White House and Trump Tower, how is that even feasible? Multiple times a day he will disrupt Manhattan with a motorcade? He will have to surround the place and neighborhood with a phalanx of missile-armed security? He will cohabitant with hundreds of civilians? He will have neighbors? All in the center of a dense city where no one likes him and one person could probably mobilize thousands of protesters in a matter of minutes?

Why would he consider any of that a problem?

Not him. I don't think he considers any of it a problem. But it is a problem for security, New York City, etc.

Nixon practically lived in Key Biscayne recall.

And the taxpayer pays for all of it

Practical question: if this shit head truly split his time between the White House and Trump Tower, how is that even feasible? Multiple times a day he will disrupt Manhattan with a motorcade? He will have to surround the place and neighborhood with a phalanx of missile-armed security? He will cohabitant with hundreds of civilians? He will have neighbors? All in the center of a dense city where no one likes him and one person could probably mobilize thousands of protesters in a matter of minutes?

― Josh in Chicago

i'm not sure this will ever sink in, not just for liberals but a lot of conservatives, but:

pence is running the day-to-day operations of the federal government. not trump.

ugh, fuck me, i just reacted to the first sentence and didn't read the rest. sorry. i don't know how any of this will work. he will skype with everyone from his penthouse bunker and order delivery.

pence is running the day-to-day operations of the federal government. not trump

god help me but this is what i consider the best-case scenario and i'm consider it unreasonably optimistic to let myself believe it.

If I lived within 10 blocks of 725 5th Ave, I'd consider now as the top of the market and sell.

Among many ugly things that will transpire over the next 4 years, I wouldn't be surprised if the secret service opens up on some egg-throwers with their motorcade minigun.

The current head of the USSS is not going to allow them to become a terror organization. He could be replaced, sure, but I consider that pretty unlikely.

No, but what if there is a gun, one gun, in the crowd.

he will skype with everyone from his penthouse bunker and order delivery.

make seamless great again

xp Their mode of operation is still defense rather than offense - it's kind of central to what they are?

imo we have enough to do dealing with "what is" to really bother worrying too much about "what if"

Yup

The USSS haven't had to defend such a divisive character since their foundation in 1901. Most, of course, are conscientious. Some are as partisan as the NY FBI.

If I were an USSS officer, my life would be easier with HRC, a person who would elicit actions from deranged individuals, but not ongoing mass protests that will occur with regularity. If there's benign weather, the inauguration route in DC on January 20 will be thronged with protesters, from any group Trump has insulted, which is close to everyone.

That doesn't end on January 20. When you've alienated everyone but insular white males, and plan policies that harm everyone but insular white males, it creates a lot of anger.

No, but what if there is a gun, one gun, in the crowd.

― Distribution of all possible outcomes (Sanpaku), Sunday, November 13, 2016 6:50 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I keep thinking about Conintelpro and other agitator/Agent provocateur stuff. If there isn't one they could very easily place one or say there was one couldn't they?

Or place somebody that looks vaguely like a protestor who is willing to start throwing heavy things or breaking things and goading others into joining in. Has been done before.

make seamless great again

― maura, Sunday, November 13, 2016 10:52 AM (twenty-three minutes ago)

aren't they owned by GrubHub, which was pretty much, "uh, if you support Trump, you probably shouldn't be working here?" Otoh, they are an example of the "gig economy" as far as the drivers go, which is something that Trump's tax plan seems to support.

Okay, I'm now a WP subscriber for 52 weeks. Liberal media, you win.

man I wish we could get the print version of that on the West Coast

Yeah, I've been thinking the same thing. WaPo subscription rate is a little high for digital only but I'm probably gonna bite the bullet nonetheless when I can afford to.