Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnUqBLez-YU

Ha

I tell it like a joke, but realizing that many of my friends grew up in cities and that the notion of cities being dangerous places was foreign to them.

I grew up 6 hours from the nearest city over 100,000 people. I never met anyone who had lived in a large American city until I was in college and still can't imagine being a kid growing up in a place like New York or Chicago.

Big cities are absolutely foreign to lots of small town people, scary confusing places where everyone is dangerous and the food is weird and there are too many people around and everything is expensive and it's really hard to get around and you deal with them as little as possible and only when necessary.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/11/01/saudi-student-assaulted-wisconsin-dies-his-injuries/93101338/

on a policy level sure pence is nearly cruz-level terrible, but under president pence i would at least assume that the 2018 and 2020 elections will be fair and free elections, and with trump i just don't feel comfortable making that assumption. a trump presidency makes me feel threatened and powerless and makes me feel that i have no legal recourse whatsoever.

i'm with rushomancy. the thing that continues to give me deep anxiety over the past few days is the potential for a gradual, unwitting descent into authoritarianism (a la the excerpt elvis telecom posted about 1930s germany). i think there are plenty of reasons to believe that that won't actually happen, but on the other hand, i'm afraid that waving it away as implausible is precisely what *will* allow it to happen. president pence would be awful, but awful in ways that i'm confident we would recognize and be able to fight against.

Parts of that HBR I'm not too sure on - making the classes 30-50-20? I can say from experience that the 31st and the 79th have very little in common and the 31st even the 40th or 50th is closer to the anxieties of the bottom rung. That upper percentile is worried about buying a house in a good neighborhood for schools, the lower is worried about the car breaking down if not keeping the gas on.

Nor do I think you can sell out social issues - the left/liberals didn't make bathrooms an issue, the wingnuts did. Our side just refused to not be assholes about it.

guys it was Saturday, you shoulda gotten outta the house (all day)

i saw Verhoeven's /Total Recall/ on the big screen. not much of an escape.

I'm going to see Napoleon

Neat! did they have the three screen thing going?

The Black Chamber of Commerce building in Beaufort, South Carolina was burned to the ground late Friday/early Saturday. Any national news media reporting this story?

http://www.wyff4.com/article/fire-destroys-beaufort-black-chamber-of-commerce-building/8283393

xp no, they're not set up for it afaict. They have a ginormous screen tho, should be good

Trump seeking quickest way to quit Paris climate agreement, says report

We're not taking a step back to 2015. We're going 24 years back and leaving Rio framework.

Think about how hard it was to arrive at Paris Accords, however imperfect. All the disappointments at Cancún and Copenhagen. All just paper to him.

This moron will be personally responsible for tens millions of deaths, and untold more that could never live due to reduced carrying capacity. Even if he never drops a single bomb.

Trump’s popular vote deficit may approach two million\

Evidently, there are up to five million votes mail and provisional ballots still to be counted.

xp fuck this damn idiot. makes me more upset than anything else about this right now

But, emails.

When I step out of the house, I know that more than half my neighbors voted for this. It feels terrible to feel revulsion at your fellow Americans.

gah, wrong link: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-gov-transition-website-plugs-firm-s-properties-n682401

― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Sunday, November 13, 2016 12:13 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark

find myself rooting for christie here

Only one in four Americans voted for him. There were a lot who were content to just get out of the way and let him win though.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/797805407179866112

Time to get an NYT subscription yall

Occurred to me that a popular GOP tactic has always been to paint the cities as full of poor, urban, drug-addicted, jobless minorities, yet the alleged aggrieved in this election were ... poor, rural, drug-addicted, jobless white folks.

I can't believe the petty shithead is still tweeting. Is this how it's really going to be, after all that? He's going to be president, and he's still going to hold rallies and tweet about his enemies? Did anyone even tell him he won?

He hasn't won until everyone says he's the greatest

Why is trump meeting with farage? Maybe he'll quit after winning too? Jk lol :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5e6bOUCY4

Fuck the Times. The paper to watch is the Washington Post; it's a trade journal, and they fucking hate interlopers (remember how much they loathed the Clintons for being not-of-Washington). I think they're the paper that's really gonna have the knives out for Trump - wait and see whether David Farenthold becomes one of the reoccurring Sunday morning talk show faces, or gets demoted to covering dog shows.

they can start by investigating whether the trump campaign conspired with comey. the whole chronology of trumps's "it's rigged!" and comey's "hey, more emails!" and then comey's "whoops, my bad!" and then trump's "see -- it really is rigged!!!"

If newspapers stop treating Trump like he is dangerous then they are done. After all of this past several months of bullshit, if they maintain this illusion of equivalency and false objectivity in the face of truth and the public record, then fuck them forever, because we're all fucked, anyway.

Yeah wapo has been so much better than the nyt. Im hopeful they'll continue to keep it up....this is kinda journalisms last chance, in a way

BREAKING: President-elect Trump says will immediately start deportation or jailing of 2 to 3 million "criminal" immigrants - CBS interview

BREAKING: President-elect Trump renews vow to build a border wall on the border with Mexico, says for some portions it may be a fence - CBS

Don't do that

well that's a nice punch in the gut to start the day. this of course comes right on top of:

(CNN)House Speaker Paul Ryan said Sunday despite Donald Trump's campaign rhetoric, lawmakers are not prepared to form a deportation force to round-up and deport undocumented immigrants.

"We are not planning on erecting a deportation force. Donald Trump's not planning on that," Ryan told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union."

i hope this at least helps us nip in the bud the bullshit line of "well we should all chill for a couple months and see what he actually does now that the election's over!" fucking hell.

I'm just going to say re: WP, Jeff Bezos may deserve a debt of gratitude from all of us before this is over.

Jeff! 2020

this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's going to do or how he's going to do it; ryan and pence are going to call all the shots

So what are you going to do about it, Paul Ryan, you turncoat asshole? Make that frown face when he starts doing it? Fuck all these people.

(tbf Obama's been deporting people like crazy and no one has really said shit.)

http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/57366b3a91058423008c2d4d-1200/all-this-has-translated-to-higher-traffic-the-post-surpassed-the-new-york-times-in-us-unique-web-visitors-in-october-2015.jpg

I'm subscribing to the post this weekend.

Since apparently all journalism these days only responds to profit

sorry i've been kind of checked out of this thread. i'm still doing lots of writing, but i feel like it's too polemical to be appropriate for this thread, so i just keep posting it to that new blog i made. nine new posts today. at some point i'm sure i'll slow down, i'm not really a long-haul writer.

Good morning. Giuliani said conflict of interest laws don't apply to the President (true), Conway said Harry Reid should watch out for legal consequences to his words, and Trump had a twitter meltdown about the New York Times and insists he never said a thing he said several times on live television. I think we're done with give him a chance to be presidential already, right?

Wait, is the conflict of interest thing really true?

Practical question: if this shit head truly split his time between the White House and Trump Tower, how is that even feasible? Multiple times a day he will disrupt Manhattan with a motorcade? He will have to surround the place and neighborhood with a phalanx of missile-armed security? He will cohabitant with hundreds of civilians? He will have neighbors? All in the center of a dense city where no one likes him and one person could probably mobilize thousands of protesters in a matter of minutes?

Why would he consider any of that a problem?

Not him. I don't think he considers any of it a problem. But it is a problem for security, New York City, etc.

Nixon practically lived in Key Biscayne recall.

And the taxpayer pays for all of it

Practical question: if this shit head truly split his time between the White House and Trump Tower, how is that even feasible? Multiple times a day he will disrupt Manhattan with a motorcade? He will have to surround the place and neighborhood with a phalanx of missile-armed security? He will cohabitant with hundreds of civilians? He will have neighbors? All in the center of a dense city where no one likes him and one person could probably mobilize thousands of protesters in a matter of minutes?

― Josh in Chicago

i'm not sure this will ever sink in, not just for liberals but a lot of conservatives, but:

pence is running the day-to-day operations of the federal government. not trump.

ugh, fuck me, i just reacted to the first sentence and didn't read the rest. sorry. i don't know how any of this will work. he will skype with everyone from his penthouse bunker and order delivery.

pence is running the day-to-day operations of the federal government. not trump

god help me but this is what i consider the best-case scenario and i'm consider it unreasonably optimistic to let myself believe it.

If I lived within 10 blocks of 725 5th Ave, I'd consider now as the top of the market and sell.

Among many ugly things that will transpire over the next 4 years, I wouldn't be surprised if the secret service opens up on some egg-throwers with their motorcade minigun.

The current head of the USSS is not going to allow them to become a terror organization. He could be replaced, sure, but I consider that pretty unlikely.