GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

Alyssa Rosenberg ‏@AlyssaRosenberg 13h13 hours ago
@DouthatNYT Certainly I don't think *critics* on the left mistake "Girls" for " a fun show about 'the youth.'"

Ross Douthat ‏@DouthatNYT 13h13 hours ago
@AlyssaRosenberg Allow me my jokes.

Alyssa Rosenberg ‏@AlyssaRosenberg 12h12 hours ago
@DouthatNYT How else will I prove that I am the Humorless Liberal Critic, Destroyer of Jokes?

kudos

ugh

o no now what

ahhhh why did I google

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not sure the context but apparently she wished she had had an abortion ???

apparently on her podcast

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/12/20/lena-dunham-says-never-had-abortion-but-wish-had.html

It's not really much better in context. Pretty much classic "this should be about me" Dunham stuff.

The "Girls" creator recounted visiting a Planned Parenthood in Texas several years ago where a young girl asked her to join a project where women share their stories of abortion.

"I sort of jumped," Dunham said. "'I haven’t had an abortion,' I told her. I wanted to make it really clear to her that as much as I was going out and fighting for other women’s options, I myself had never had an abortion."

It was then, Dunham said, she realized "Even I, the woman who cares as much as anybody about a woman’s right to choose, felt it was important that people know I was unblemished in this department."

She added, "Now I can say that I still haven’t had an abortion, but I wish I had."

this is the opposite of surprising

idgaf

that one ok first season of Girls was really not worth putting up with her for this long already

Eh, this is the diet version of John Waters saying 'I wish I was a girl so I could get an abortion' in Crackpot - and that's 30 years old!

It's a shame she is so committed to embodying every right wing critics' caricature of her. I still think, flawed as Girls is, she is a talented writer.

I think she is a talented writer too but it bothers me that she is put forward as some kind of cultural spokesperson in spite of what seems to be pretty narrow appeal and popularity. It feels very much like media class narcissism that she is so favored and promoted in the media.

I know so few people who watched Girls at all, and the ones who did were pretty lukewarm about it after a season or two. I've never met a single person who read her book or reads the Lenny Letter or whatever it's called. But she gets put on stage at the Democratic convention as some kind of representative of, idk, the hip kids today?

Yeah I agree. And I think her purposefully risible political stances actively damage the causes she is trying to further.

lol even in 2011 her hipness was dated

Hahaah this reminds me of the "Better Things" episode where the group ask each other how many abortions they've had. But even that episode wasn't really making it a source of pride.

She's connected, and goes to the right parties.

As indicated above, i thought the show got better after the first season.

true I think i liked season 2 more than the first now that i think about it.

Show sort of got out of its depth with the darker episodes.

But it took risks.

Which is good.

and that's okay

the last couple seasons have been really good tbh

i think the show is fine. I think the comment is fine. who cares.

maybe she should've aborted that comment

I like the graphic design/typeface on her book cover.

no matter how bad Girls has gotten or will get, it will always be worth it for this scene alone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9pVzZCJQDo

y'know, I actually think this is fair enough:

It was then, Dunham said, she realized "Even I, the woman who cares as much as anybody about a woman’s right to choose, felt it was important that people know I was unblemished in this department."

She's admitting that, even though she's pro-abortion, she has internalised the shaming of abortion. I mean, she put it across in an ultimately clumsy manner, but what she's saying is ultimately self-deprecating and making a point about the cultural discourse surrounding abortion infecting even those who explicitly support abortion.

i don't think people had an issue with that part (though "unblemished" is kinda....eh...) it's the tone deaf faux bragging at the end.

hard to see any situation where it wouldn't come out well. advocating for the blind: "I'm not blind, but i wish i was".

yeah, well, that is a little (a lot) clumsy. it doesn't invalidate her larger point though.

not to the extent that her point was mostly about realizing she's full of shit

in general i think ppl who have actually had abortions might give a little more of a fuck about that idiotic statement than you internet bros

and that john waters thing is so clearly a different context and with different aims, i don't see how it's relevant.

Because I said so.

Both before and after, she seems focused on herself rather than the issue. Before: I need to make sure people know I didn't have one even though I'm advocating it. After: Now that I'm woke, I wish I had had an abortion so I could have the cred.

just seems to be minimize the massive physical loss and pain experienced in the process

tho i guess it is a statement of empathy? however badly worded

yeah, well, that is a little (a lot) clumsy. it doesn't invalidate her larger point though.

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not to the extent that her point was mostly about realizing she's full of shit

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lol

Her apology is so ridiculous. She is the monster the liberals deserve in 2016.

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lol desi

ok wow that episode was intense

ive laughed a lot @ this season

really great episode of this show, but I imagine it's going to piss a lot of people off

I've given up on this show but my wife still watches it out of morbid curiosity.

surprised Dunham didn't just name the author character "Woody" if she was so intent on being keeping things "subtle" and "ambiguous".

this show went from amusing to awful really fast (ie by the end of season 3)

idk i think it's funnier now (last season and the first few eps of this season) than it's ever been.

yeah i think it's definitely been really funny.

feel like desi is just a pitch perfectly written douchebag. he literally can't do or say anything that isn't absolutely teeth-grindingly awful.