Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

That was so long ago it might not have mattered; all people know is the smiling vice president

This is not an endorsement of the former senator from MBNA

probably the only thing that can be said for sure in favor of a different candidate, when evaluating this election in hindsight, is that none of the other potential democratic candidates were the subject of two decades of smear by the right and that perhaps this would have improved their chances

well there's that. half the people who voted i mean. same diff.

Given that the Democrats' vote turnout went down by a shit-ton this year I'm not taking that as a given.

here's an alternative version of "Bernie dumbs it down" and low-information voter stuff - he offered up a vision that centered around economic justice but was also completely and utterly supportive of social justice.

If you're still intent on making fun of that, I don't know what to say. Veiled accusations of racism against him or the people who supported him is NAGL.

I don't think anyone is criticizing Bernie for appealing to low-information voters. He had an attractive vision and he/his campaign communicated it well to people.

hope it was clear i wasn't dissing any bernie voters or bernie himself obviously -- i think he was a great candidate on the merits -- i was just pointing out that in this world we live in where people don't pay attention to politics and vote anyway, being a genuinely nice guy who appeals to those types of voters is a nice bonus

The hits continue as Trump a) moves Chris Christie off the transition team to turn it over to Mike Pence, and b) names his three oldest children -- who he earlier said would run his businesses to keep them separate from the government duties -- to the transition team.

http://theslot.jezebel.com/chris-christies-unending-humiliations-continue-as-trump-1788873400

pence obviously moving fast to consolidate his cabal

Eric Levitz, nymag:

No one has ever used the words 'soul of the Democratic Party' and 'Chuck Schumer' in the same sentence....

27 percent of white voters who backed Trump hope he will pursue “more liberal” policies than Barack Obama did, according to exit polls.

So, there doesn’t seem to be much basis for the idea that Democrats can find political salvation by moving right on fiscal policy. But clearly, they’ve isolated themselves from the silent majority on immigration, right?

Wrong, per CBS News:

Exit poll voters were asked whether most illegal immigrants working in the U.S. should be offered a chance to apply for legal status or deported to the country they came from. Fully 7 of 10 voters said they should be allowed to apply for legal status … Among those who favored giving illegal immigrants a chance to apply for legal status, one in three voted for Trump.
Trump also won 35 percent of voters who believe “international trade creates jobs.”

In the face of these befuddling facts, the only people in the Democratic Party with a coherent narrative of how to move forward — and a national base of support — are Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/is-bernie-sanders-now-the-leader-of-the-democratic-party.html

No success like failure, and failure is no success at all.

just want to lol at "low information voters" for a minute. as if a million echoing polls told us anything or gave us any valuable info besides "She'll win!".

buddy i described my own mother as a "low-information voter". it wasn't meant pejoratively

hope it was clear i wasn't dissing any bernie voters or bernie himself obviously -- i think he was a great candidate on the merits -- i was just pointing out that in this world we live in where people don't pay attention to politics and vote anyway, being a genuinely nice guy who appeals to those types of voters is a nice bonus

― k3vin k., Friday, November 11, 2016 7:47 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

totally. yet he didn't win the primary. Sanders didn't get a fair shake by the establishment because they don't give a fuck what these people want, so did nothing to accommodate them. for a while the NYT was giving better coverage to Trump than Sanders, then hoots and hollers that their hated establishment candidate didn't win. the type of alternative that would appeal to more people was squashed by the powers that be, while shoving Hillary in our faces.

it's easy to forget how pissed off people have been for years with how things are going, and how totally disconnected they feel from power over their own fate and lives, because they're being governed by people who don't give a crap about them and try to tell them how they should vote and live, because they aren't listening anyway. i remember how people were like "yup" when a Princeton study came out showing average voters had a 0% impact on the laws passed in Congress. all that news of pharmaceutical price gouging, and the lack of repercussions for that, people remember that shit, it becomes part of their worldview that they're being taken advantage of and there's nothing they can do about it. i wonder if cuck's an insult to the far-right because lots of people feel humiliated and powerless under this, and since the social contract has been broken, there's no reason to hold back socially taboo things like racism anymore.

Howrd Dean throwing his hat in the ring for DNC chair again. I know there are some who dislike him; but he did some good stuff as DNC chair last time.

just want to lol at "low information voters" for a minute. as if a million echoing polls told us anything or gave us any valuable info besides "She'll win!".

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, November 11, 2016 11:58 AM (eleven minutes ago)

this sentence makes no sense.

christie finally got his letter from the FBI telling him he's a suspect in bridgegate?

Howard Dean is good people and his 50 state strategy was otm

Yeah, if all the DNC Chair possibilities are people like Dean and Ellison I won't be mad

Howard Dean is now a lobbyist shit; eff him

https://thinkprogress.org/giuliani-dean-paid-to-advocate-for-terrorist-group-9c316a06c50#.qdj2ra5dk

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/14/howard-dean-lobbyist/

Dean has lobbied for grotesque shit, as most lobbyists do, but I have immense respect for the 50-state strategy and how he forced Dems to think past the enclaves (this sense of entrapment is what I most remember from December 2004-Januarly 2005). He's also much smarter on TV than he let on in 2003.

But I'll take the black congressmen from Milwaukee.

ha -- I was gonna hyperlink that Thinkprogress story

this sentence makes no sense.

what is the counter to low information voters - high information voters? people that pay thorough attention to constant polling? the media and the left just did this obsessively for 6 months and got caught w their pants down. Clinton ditched out of the rest belt cos all that great high information told them they didn't need it.

rust belt

"America died on Nov. 8, 2016, not with a bang or a whimper, but at its own hand via electoral suicide."

http://billmoyers.com/story/farewell-america/#.WCUbk-3V-Md.facebook

you guys looked like you needed some cheering up.

opinion polls are not the type of information we were referring to. At least, I wasn't.

No, that's generally not what *anyone* is referring to with that phrase

Pence taking over transition team from Christie

All the autopsies seem to reveal to me is that Dems should have run an obnoxious asshole that would get through some very thick skulls.

I think we all need some smelling salts to wake up from the world we've been living in the past decade or so. Trump is president. That still hasn't sunk in for me yet. Clearly the established way of doing things isn't working out too well. It's over, pack it up, the game has changed.

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I think 'people planning on Trump being more liberal than Obama' is what most people mean by low-information voter.

good example, troo

In 2012, after Obama was elected to a second term, Trump tweeted: “We can’t let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!”

we *should* march on Washington

in addition to "bigly," i wonder if we could stop throwing around these "racist" and "fascist" bombs as often as we do, particularly as applied to whole swaths of the population we don't know very well, and whose votes we need.

― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, November 11, 2016 7:16 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark

I'm getting rather tired of this. Not directed at you, but I keep hearing the same argument: "those 50m trump voters can't all be racist right?" Why not? Why can't 50 million people be racist? They voted for a racist! Trump doesn't even hide his racism, he boasts about it. Death penalty for five black men, saying he'll only let a Jew count his money, wanting to ban Muslims only because they are Muslims...

He ís a racist. And all the millions who voted for him are too. There is nothing "impossible" about that. Yes, they can be nice people, they can be your mother or best friend or yr fave sports star. So what? That doesn't make someone nót racist. Voting for a racist makes you a racist, too. An enabler at the very least.

I see a lot of people on the left saying "we should listen to these people's concerns, they can't be all racist", terrified that calling someone who is a racist a racist will backfire. Listen to their concerns we should, but no concerns make it ok to support a racist. If anything the election of notable and proud racist Trump should teach left ánd right that there are a hell of a lot more white racists then they thought there were.

(Scratch 'white' from 'white racists')

Trump's rise was fueled by a guy who told people he saw genetically-modified fish people being kept in tubes in a secret government lab, and then cried on air about it. Like what the fuck? It's disturbing how this is being treated as normal, like we should all just go along with it like this is an acceptable course of things. This is still so insane to me.

Re: protests -- I'm less concerned about public perception of civil unrest, and more concerned that cops or military troops will be overly violent in suppressing the standard issue Oakland protest (break a few windows around 8, set a dumpster on fire around 9-ish, occupy the freeway on ramp around 10-ish, go home around midnight) and things will get ugly.

I work near the main assembly point for the protests, and was told to leave work early yesterday.

90 days to go.

This is still so insane to me.

They usually take a break for Thanksgiving.

Local protests on election day are going to be cold.

Of the many striking thing I've seen in the last couple of days since the election, the most striking to me has been photos of Donald Trump looking truly miserable and slightly scared as he visits the White House and Capitol and it sinks in on him what he's in for. It's hard right now to say which might be worse: a strong but ignorant Trump steering us to disaster, or a weak and disheartened Trump being fought over by the craftier and nastier power-seekers who'll mob around him.

Since I can't decide what road to hell we're taking, I guess I won't try to suss out the future. I'll just try to organize effective opposition to whatever crap starts flowing out of DC.

i am willing to believe that stupid ppl may not think DT is racist

it's my Pollyanna side

LBI otm fuck these people. including my family members.

this fucking bullshit

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxAkCm1WgAA7C6n.jpg

xp - I agree with you Morbz.