Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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I'm imagining Trump saying, "So what, you come in in the morning, put your feet up, flip on MSNBC, wait for your staff to bring you all the clips that mention you, spend a little time on Twitter . . ." and Obama being like, "No, I . . . I work, all day. Every day. Seven days a week sometimes. It's really hard work."

Knowing how the Presidency ages people, there's some comfort in knowing that by 2020 he'll be just a pile of loosely-organized dust.

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:03 (seven years ago) link

why do you think he would submit himself to the hard work required by the role?

marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link

he wont

marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link

he doesn't give a fuck about that shit

marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link

yeah i'm sure he's happy to play the figurehead while pence and his staff run the day-to-day duties

ciderpress, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:05 (seven years ago) link

he will surround himself with sycophantic imbeciles, he won't invest time in reading the memos and listening to the briefings. let pence handle this. Trump is every other dead eyed corporate dude who finds himself running a large governmental organization - he will provide the bullshit "vision" while letting his underlings do the real work. he will pop in every once in a while to blurt out whatever his very first thought is, authoritatively and scaring the shit out of everyone else in the room, ruining many plans simultaneously. he will spend his time being the face of the organization, enjoying the perks, and figuring out ways to benefit those that are loyal to him.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:05 (seven years ago) link

yeah I agree Trump looks absolutely petrified, and i got that sense during his acceptance speech, which as someone said in the election day thread, was this "delirious utopian fantasy," as if he were reading the lyrics of Lennon's Imagine. I fully believe he did not expect to win, has no plan, and Pence will effectively be leading the country. which is even more of a nightmare than Trump imo

flappy bird, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:06 (seven years ago) link

Lol @ "ruining many plans simultaneously"

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

exactly, he'll run the presidency like a business owner since that's all he knows

ciderpress, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link

i know i posted this upthread, but letting the VP run the country - domestic and foreign policy - is explicitly what Trump Jr offered to John Kasich when they were trying to woo him, on behalf of his father

Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link

lol he doesn't "look petrified" you guys are reading into it exactly what you want. otoh yes pence will do most of the hard work, that was the plan all along, cf that NYT story

k3vin k., Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link

I am sincerely worried about how I will react when/if I witness any of the racist shit that's going down. Just reading about it is filling me with fury.

Now, imagine worrying about how you will react when some of the racist shit that's going down happens to you. Ponder how that feels for a while. It's not a very good feeling.

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link

check out this bird! this bird is TERRIFIED!

http://i.imgur.com/385EVn9.jpg

the bird is like "get me out of here guys i don't know wtf i'm doing"

Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link

lol he doesn't "look petrified" you guys are reading into it exactly what you want. otoh yes pence will do most of the hard work, that was the plan all along, cf that NYT story

― k3vin k., Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:10 PM (

I said he looks petrified and that's that

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link

haha that stupid fucking bird that i definitely did not vote for looks very dumb and scared!

k3vin k., Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link

Smug fuckin bird

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link

actually the more i look at the picture the more i think the bird is hiding something. wtf did you do, bird?? and don't keep staring back blankly like you don't understand what i'm saying, i know you do.

ok i'm sounding like john oliver now, i'm sorry for that.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link

i'm going to post a rant from SETH MEYERS on my Facebook wall right now!

nomar, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link

im just reading the election day thread posts from tuesday night to kind of get a handle on what point things started getting really scary and i saw this post:

Lol what a bunch of nervous nellies you guys are

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, November 8, 2016 9:24 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

come back shakey where are you

marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link

fuck that bird

flappy bird, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link

Shakey's usually good with reassurances (and accurate). His pollsters were wrong too?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link

He's taking a break.

schwantz, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link

bummed that Shakey checked out right when things started to turn. hope he's ok and comes back soon.

flappy bird, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link

on the radio earlier (bbc radio 5) they talked about how there would be the usual PR happy smiles for the camera/media during the meeting etc.
but no .. not one single grin.
having watched that i now need to turn up the heating.

mark e, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:25 (seven years ago) link

why would trump be terrified? dude is thrilled. i never understood people saying "he doesn't really want to be president"

so many people saying "he has no idea how hard this job is", he doesn't give a shit. like he has any respect for the seriousness or demands of the role?

― marcos, Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:01 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

People are always desperately reading into images to fit some ideal narrative they want to be true. I could freeze a damning frame out of even the most positive, happy speeches or other footage of a politician/whoever without much effort.

Evan, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link

Oh, what you all said above.

Evan, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link

I think some people get paid decent money to do just that, actually

frogbs, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link

People are always desperately reading into images to fit some ideal narrative they want to be true. I could freeze a damning frame out of even the most positive, happy speeches or other footage of a politician/whoever without much effort.

― Evan, Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:26 PM

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/c9/fb/4b/c9fb4b3d485802fb61fe04db67910783.jpg

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link

Tabloid articles are the best evidence of this

Evan, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link

I feel for Shakey. I was right there with him, trying to quell heightened fears about the sky falling. And then the sky fell. Like, who even knew it could do that? I wasn't at all prepared when it happened so I've been madly trying to gather my wits and stay positive and constructive give that mad howling void of terror as wide a berth as possible.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link

shakey seems like a pretty well put together dude i'm sure he's fine

k3vin k., Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.752212

Non-Orthodox Jews supported Clinton at higher rates than Orthodox Jews, but the Democratic candidate came out ahead even in this sub-group. According to the poll, 76 percent of Reform Jews voted for Clinton, as opposed to 21 percent for Trump; 71 percent of Conservative Jews voted for Clinton, as opposed to 25 percent for Trump; and 56 percent of Orthodox Jews voted for Clinton, as opposed to 39 percent for Trump. Among those who identified as merely “just Jewish,” 67 percent voted for Clinton, as opposed to 26 percent for Trump.

small comfort but it does move me that Trump lost even among Orthodox Jews.

Mordy, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link

I can't speak to how Shakey is/was feeling, but as someone who had a similar outlook, I can say that watching my strongly held assumptions crumble before my eyes was pretty traumatic.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link

The photo of Obama and Trump is so damn heartbreaking. Dude literally spent his entire life shitting all over everybody and making up conspiracy theories about them and never once had to pay the price.

frogbs, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

alright not "literally". you know what I mean.

frogbs, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

xxp yea same here. my more cynical friends/family who have been predicting a trump win for months are not as crushed. even in 2004 it really felt like a toss-up in the weeks before

marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

I texted with Shakey. He's ok (as ok as you can be in this horrible new world, I guess). Taking a break from the internet.

schwantz, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:48 (seven years ago) link

at the end of the obama meeting Trump calls Obama 'a very good man' many times, which gives me some early hope that Trump doesn't actually stand for anything and just wants the ultimate businessman gig

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link

the fact that he doesn't stand for anything scares me the most because those around him stand for a whole bunch of terrible shit.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

^^^

JoeStork, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link

trump backtracking already:

Trump had said during the election campaign he would be willing to withdraw U.S. military stationed in South Korea unless Seoul paid a greater share of the cost of the U.S. deployment, but an adviser to the president-elect played down such comments on Thursday.

...

South Korea's presidential Blue House said Trump agreed with Park and it quoted Trump as saying: "We will be steadfast and strong with respect to working with you to protect against the instability in North Korea."

...

"He has moved on to talk about non-proliferation in a way that you would hear from any Republican president," he said.

"We are very much committed to both non-proliferation and assuring the allies that not only will they continue to be under the nuclear umbrella, but that we are going to be strengthening our missile defence in ways that alleviate some of their concerns about North Korea."

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-election-southkorea-idUKKBN135099

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link

"He has moved on to talk about non-proliferation in a way that you would hear from any Republican president," he said.

oh well I'm reassured whew

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link

at the end of the obama meeting Trump calls Obama 'a very good man' many times, which gives me some early hope that Trump doesn't actually stand for anything and just wants the ultimate businessman gig

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:49 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuck's sake, can we get rid of this bullshit about trump being an empty vessel? have you fucking heard anything this dude has been talking about for years?

marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link

and as everyone else notes, the people surrounding him are no better.

That's a terrible part of the reaction - the idea that Kasich or Cruz or whatever would be okay. The GOP as a whole is only marginally less white nationalist-friendly than Trump, if at all - he just came out and said it.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 10 November 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link

"He has moved on to talk about non-proliferation in a way that you would hear from any Republican president," he said.

oh well I'm reassured whew

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, November 10, 2016 12:57 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what you're expecting him to be sanders

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 10 November 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link

I would expect Sanders to talk about non-proliferation in a way that you would hear from any president.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link

idealism vs reality i guess

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 10 November 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link

I guess that's what's gotten me so frustrated about this election in general. Trump and his supporters have painted a picture this entire time of him being an outsider, someone who was fighting a rigged system, who the media despised for "telling the truth", who didn't have the support of "establishment" politicians, who often implied that some mysterious "they" was trying to hold him back. Not a single part of that is true. The media helped propel him to the White House by covering every single thing he did, refusing to talk about anything Hillary said unless she specifically mentioned Trump. They painted her email "scandal" as somehow being more disqualifying than all his actions combined. The FBI actively and blatantly meddled in the election to toss it in his favor. Russians hacked the DNC and Wikileaks strategically released thousands of private emails at the most damaging times possible. He lied about nearly everything and almost never got called out for it. He got away with not having to release his tax returns. He insulted Republicans nonstop in remarkably personal ways, and got to watch as nearly all of them wound up endorsing him anyway. He lost the popular vote but won the White House because of the electoral college (which he previously called a "disgrace"). All the vote rigging and voter suppression seemed to be in his favor. It is difficult to imagine a candidate getting more lucky breaks or being more privileged than he was. And yet he pushed the "rigged" narrative harder than anybody ever has. It's infuriating.

frogbs, Thursday, 10 November 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link

"Some people were born on 3rd base and go through life believing they hit a triple." Could not be more fucking apt about this man.

frogbs, Thursday, 10 November 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link

So Palin, Carson, Guiliani and Gingrich are all up as candidates? Good grief...

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 10 November 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link


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