I just posted it on a bud's wall.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link
I posted that on the other thread too, I think. I definitely read and retweeted, since it's so similar to my own experience as a rural Ohioan. (I went to a 100% white high school, after spending my entire life prior to 6th grade in integrated schools as an Army brat, so it was quite shocking to me.)
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link
http://www.statesman.com/news/local/texas-state-university-police-looking-into-trump-vigilante-fliers/jhWSmmhNxxuTXZaQJiYhNI/
"Now that our man Trump is elected and Republicans own both the Senate and the House -- time to organize tar & feather vigilante squads and go arrest and torture those deviant university leaders spouting off all this diversity garbage," at least one of the fliers reads, according to a photo that the university community is sharing.
― a full playlist of presidential apocalypse jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:12 (seven years ago) link
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― Evan, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link
My sister moved from Chicago area to rural Wisoconsin. Hanging in Lake Wisco one day, a local says to me "Isn't this just gorgeous? This is the most beautiful place in the country!". Mainly to make conversation, I asked where else she'd been, what other parts of the country had she seen. "Oh I haven't really left the state much. Been to Florida a couple of times". She was in her 50s! Same story with most of the other locals I met or heard about: basically had only been to Florida or the "WHOOO PARTY!!" parts of Mexico (both are locales where they are assured to be around a ton of other tourists very similar to themselves!)
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link
I'm here, lurking! And just trying to live. My job takes an enormous emotional toll (and has some nontraditional/extra hours) so I can't do as much community work as I would like to, or activism or campaigning either b/c I can't risk arrest anymore. But I will be thrilled to talk about anything you want!
― If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link
i grew up only an hour outside of chicago (mchenry co) and tbh never really interacted with anyone who wasn't white. it's a pretty red county, or it was. not sure about now. but racism as a "thing" was there. my best friend in kindergarten tried and failed to start a local chapter of the KKK (he managed to get two other members.) after i left that school and ended up in rockford, it was a whole new world. and i mean that's just 30 miles down a country road. but there are people even just outside major cities, or diverse cities, who since they don't interact on a day to day basis with people unlike them, only view them through the lens of the media. and as the media has become more specifically targeted and as you can pick and choose very specific viewpoints about groups of people you've never met, you're going to get an even more poisoned mind than you would have a couple decades ago.
― nomar, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link
I just posted this to the last, miserable election thread, but I probably should have posted it here:
Okay yeah, so, it's important to recognize that it is not unprecedented to have Republicans in both houses, with a dipshit Republican president rubber-stamping things, and the Bush era WAS awful and 2004 WAS until yesterday the worst post-election morning of my lifetime. The big difference to me is the emergence of the Tea Party/Freedom Caucus types during the Obama administration. All their feuding with Boehner/Ryan goes away without a Democratic president they're trying to strategize around, and you're left with a huge swath of dipshit Republicans for roll-call votes, and leadership cadres that are now MUCH further right than they were in the Clinton and W eras. It's going to be rubber-stamping of absolutely demonic shit, the kind of draconian nightmare Republican government we've all been fearing for a long time unless some of them break ranks (doubtful) or that trying to gut Social Security along with the rest of the federal government just takes so long that a really well-organized opposition can make gains back in the midterms (yeah right).And in the meantime, Trump is following Reagan in appointing to his cabinet and all the executive agencies people who are either his corrupt and incompetent old real estate crony friends, or right-wing true believers who are also sycophants good at making him feel smart, and whose main goal in running these agencies is to make them nonfunctional. That's terrifying whether it's an Anne Gorsuch type at the EPA in the face of climate-change disaster, or fucking Rudy Giuliani controlling the Justice Department and rolling back even the baby steps towards investigating police departments and trying to prosecute brutality cases. And a million other things.
And in the meantime, Trump is following Reagan in appointing to his cabinet and all the executive agencies people who are either his corrupt and incompetent old real estate crony friends, or right-wing true believers who are also sycophants good at making him feel smart, and whose main goal in running these agencies is to make them nonfunctional. That's terrifying whether it's an Anne Gorsuch type at the EPA in the face of climate-change disaster, or fucking Rudy Giuliani controlling the Justice Department and rolling back even the baby steps towards investigating police departments and trying to prosecute brutality cases. And a million other things.
― dustalo springsteen (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link
i like to think that during the years i was surrounded only by white people that i wasn't particularly awful and i don't think i was, but i was certainly still ignorant. it's a good thing i always liked exploring music and film from other cultures, because i think that really helped. no joke, it was important to not just listen to public enemy or blues music or cypress hill or whatever but to also try to get into the mindset of other cultures, it's a good education for those who live in places where you're not exposed to non-white people except through mainstream media or targeted news channels.
― nomar, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:39 (seven years ago) link
It took people knocking me over the head over and over, figuratively, to get me to reconsider the acculturated racism I had. It took work, but I appreciate it now, I was a real dumbass when I was younger.
― larry appleton, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link
Just watched the Houston episode of Bourdain's show on the bus to work, tearing up and sniffling. Gave me hope, though. Seek it out.
― schwantz, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/joshledermanAP/status/796769992603815936
WASHINGTON (AP) — Obama says he was 'encouraged' by conversation with Trump, calls Oval Office meeting 'excellent' and wide-ranging
― Mordy, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link
I can't fit into my head the thought of Obama meeting with (President-Elect!) Donald J. Trump
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link
good post from a Veteran in my timeline:
Hey, Army (and military in general). What was the point of those incessant power points we had to go over four times a year. Something about not sexually harassing/assaulting people and something about racial discrimination being unacceptable, right? Enjoy your new commander-in-chief. Do as daddy says not as daddy do. #grabbedamericabythepussy
― frogbs, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link
"WASHINGTON (AP) — Obama says he was 'encouraged' by conversation with Trump, calls Oval Office meeting 'excellent' and wide-ranging"
wtf's he going to say, honestly
hopefully he goes back into hsi office and recess appoints Garland.
― akm, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link
recess appoints Garland.
he'd spark white riots, which we can't call riots, but you get the idea
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link
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this blows huh
― marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link
Vote to consolidate everything to a I Hate Trump board.
― Jeff, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:10 (seven years ago) link
xxp also a constitutional crisis, which with a divided court would be p. chill
― j., Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link
ive been wracking my brane for ways to be helpful out here in rural vermont, and have thus far come up empty handed
however, a friend of mine in new mexico could always use support (http://www.santafedreamersproject.org/what-we-do/), and a recent thread on her FB raised an interesting idea. for those of you in sanctuary cities/counties/states, encourage your local leaders to make a public declaration of support for immigrants. it might not seem like much, but ppl are pretty scared right now, and letting them know that their community supports/protects them might provide a not insignificant amount of comfort
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link
one of trump's "first 100 days" actions is to revoke all federal funding for sanctuary cities
― marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link
i have no idea how/whether that would be possible but hey
― marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link
oh jesus i missed that
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link
I don't even know if there's a way for Congress to do that -- federal funding for cities comes through a zillion different programs. But I suppose they can try.
― Mike Pence shakes his head and mouths the word ‘no’ (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link
Nixon decided it was in his power to sequester money allocated by Congress by simply choosing not to spend it. I can't recall offhand if he got away with this gambit, but he had a hostile Congress to contend with who fought back. Trump would have a compliant Congress, more than happy to set this craven precedent in return for scoring some political brownie points with their base.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link
based on my (cursory) look into it, it would seem that some places (eg Cali, New Mex) are sanctuaries at the state level, and others (Portland, ME) are at the city level.
also, "sanctuary city" seems to be pretty vaguely defined, and my guess is that it would be very, very difficult for congress to limit federal funding in any meaningful way
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw60UTzVEAA0reF.jpg
christ
― marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:23 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that's reassuring. i wasn't sure at all
christ antichrist
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link
I don't think it would happen, but...I live in Seattle, we're a sanctuary city, overdue for a huge earthquake. What then?
(The response that comes to mind is that middle-class whites will know what Katrina felt like but of course it's going to be the poor, minorities, people without resources who suffer the most.)
― JoeStork, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link
The other, distant fear is that four years from now, if everyone works like hell and turnout rises and we elect someone decent, who says these people are going to want to give the country back to the blacks and the queers and the immigrants?
― JoeStork, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link
Xp that is reassuring, lessens terror a few percentage points
― JoeStork, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link
the election was so close, i'm confident the Democrats can take back the WH in 4 years. obv depends on how Trump pans out, and who the Dems nominate...
― flappy bird, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/Nufanglenesse/status/796643621529325568
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link
Trump wasn't elected by an overwhelming majority- he doesn't have a mandate bc he didn't cross 300 EV's and lost the popular vote. God help us if 2020 is a repeat of 2004/1984
― flappy bird, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link
i can't imagine who will pull ahead as a contender in 4 years. sanders? he'll be a bit old. Warren? I like Warren but she talks to everyone like they are in preschool. Surely there must be someone else.
― akm, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:42 (seven years ago) link
rupaul?
― akm, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link
just thinking of reality show stars
no one really considered clinton and obama four years previous to their wins, at least not ahead of a bunch of other possibilities.
― nomar, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link
can we close this thread, please?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link
why?
― akm, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
― JoeStork, Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:31 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yea the collapse of the rust belt "blue wall" states is so disheartening. WI, MI, PA no longer being reliably blue is pretty grim
― marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
― akm, Thursday, November 10, 2016
lol wrong thread
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
Do you think Trump or anyone he appoints or is advised by cares one iota about a mandate? I don't understand how the mandate thing is relevant ever (at anything other than a superficial, narrative level), but esp now.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:45 PM (twenty-six seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm, GOP has presidency, house, senate. pretty much the only "mandate" that matters.
― marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link
this man's happy
http://a3.files.biography.com/image/upload/c_fit,cs_srgb,dpr_1.0,q_80,w_620/MTE4MDAzNDEwODI5OTM2MTQy.jpg
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link
― akm, Thursday, November 10, 2016 12:42 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
keith ellison imo
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link
Tulsi Gabbard, god help us all
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link
the modern right has been shown to have no morals, just an all-consuming thirst for power. and now we've elected a president who has been shown to have no morals, just an all-consuming thirst for power. they have no reason to compromise with anyone or throw a bone to the 1/2 of the country that votes against them, nor do they have the moral decency to feel a compulsion to do so.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link
― marcos, Thursday, November 10, 2016 10:47 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
also if hilary had won she had literally 0.1 more of the vote than trump, that's not really much of a mandate either
― harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link
there will be another great recession, huh https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/claiming-mandate-gop-congress-lays-plans-to-propel-sweeping-conservative-agenda/2017/01/01/9840338a-ceee-11e6-b8a2-8c2a61b0436f_story.html?utm_term=.2884bae4b41a&wpisrc=nl_most-draw10&wpmm=1
― marcos, Monday, 2 January 2017 19:51 (seven years ago) link
Well, the super-rich think these recessions are pretty great. After all, they get to pick up a lot of cheap deals during the crash and come out smelling like a rose when, in order to "stimulate the economy and promote job growth" the Republicans will cut their taxes even more, while slashing safety net programs, and the Fed keeps interest rates at zero. Hand them another Great Recession and life's a bowl of cherries!
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 2 January 2017 19:58 (seven years ago) link
less "a great recession" and more "direct corporate rule", maintaining general prosperity is for regimes that think there should be restraints on the cops
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 2 January 2017 20:07 (seven years ago) link
amazing to be capable of surprise abt how cynical ppl can be right now but the ethics office bill is just luminously craven
― schlump, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 11:51 (seven years ago) link
it's stunning, yes
― A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 16:35 (seven years ago) link
OCE gutting proposal withdrawn following public outcry
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link
surprised tbh
― marcos, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link
it's important to remember that many of the things this congress is pursuing are deeply unpopular. Making sure that the public understands exactly what they are attempting to do may work as a powerful deterrent.
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:21 (seven years ago) link
one hopes
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:25 (seven years ago) link
Will be re-submitted, and pass overwhelmingly, over inauguration weekend, while press is busy talking about who did and didn't attend parties.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:38 (seven years ago) link
out of all the things to kick off the new session with
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:40 (seven years ago) link
yeah people are seriously dense if they think this is going away...
but speaking of seriously dense how fucking dumb do you have to be to do this in the middle of the night when they should just do what the honorable mr van gorp is suggesting upthread.
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:46 (seven years ago) link
also important to remember that trump is unbelievably unpopular for an incoming president
http://www.gallup.com/poll/201158/skeptical-trump-handle-presidential-duties.aspx
would love to see this repeated in every single article about him
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:47 (seven years ago) link
wow, 20-30 points behind Obama & GWB in every category, impressive.
― great Canadian prog-psych debut from 1969 (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:52 (seven years ago) link
too bad all the people who aren't skeptical are the ones whose votes matter
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:53 (seven years ago) link
thread is almost at 7800 posts, we could use a fresh start.America under Trump - Year One: January 2017 to
― A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 18:07 (seven years ago) link
taylor swift look like a lorax
― • (sleepingbag), Sunday, January 31, 2016 3:42 PM (ten months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Go fuck yourself.
― markers, Sunday, January 31, 2016 3:43 PM (ten months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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