Rolling 2016 Thread on Race

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http://www.kcci.com/article/police-investigating-white-heritage-posters-at-isu/7664984

At this point, officials say this is a policy violation, and they want to talk to whoever hung up the signs to find out their intent.

I will give you three guesses, officials, and the first two don't count.

GUNSHOW POOPHOLE (Phil D.), Saturday, 29 October 2016 15:15 (seven years ago) link

Wanna see how Facebook's advertising department views you? If you go to https://m.facebook.com/ads/preferences/categories/ and click on "Lifestyle and Culture," you can see your "Ethnic Affinity" - not necessarily who they think you are, but what kind of products and services they think you might be interested in. Mine is "African-American," probably because I post about jazz a lot.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 29 October 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link

interestingly as a UK citizen i don't appear to have an "Ethnic Affinity" tag, presumably because we're such a big chill melting-pot

nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 October 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

Yeah me neither - they do have me down as a millennial and late technology adopter tho

did we ever get wizz sorted (wins), Saturday, 29 October 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link

i am down as Generation X and Fat Maudlin Twat

nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 October 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link

a friend mentioned one of the ISU posters that was put up. haven't seen any of the ones that had much text, but the one I did see looked like a bad art project and less like a call to arms for racists, but I am guessing... just really dumb racists

mh 😏, Saturday, 29 October 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

With In Full Color, Rachael Doležal describes the path that led her from being a child of white evangelical parents to an NAACP chapter president and respected educator and activist who identified as black. Along the way, she’ll discuss the deep emotional bond she formed with her four adopted black siblings, the sense of belonging she felt while living in black communities in Jackson, Mississippi and Washington, D.C., and the discrimination she’s suffered while living as a black woman.

Her story is nuanced and complex, and in the process of telling it, she forces us to consider race in an entirely new light—not as a biological imperative, but as a function of the experiences we have, the culture we embrace, and, ultimately, the identity we choose.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51qiMHtdZiL._SX332_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 29 October 2016 23:38 (seven years ago) link

i read ilx with colours inverted on my phone at night and i think its never provided better context

the kids are alt right (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan fuck Dolezal str8 up

Neanderthal, Sunday, 30 October 2016 00:13 (seven years ago) link

A former sports reporter and columnist for Jackson Hole News, Storms Reback writes and plays professional poker in Austin, Texas

mh 😏, Sunday, 30 October 2016 01:26 (seven years ago) link

i am down as Generation X and Fat Maudlin Twat

― nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:17 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it thinks i am gen x - I'm millennial - and that I'm into both the scottish labour and conservative parties - i'm a scottish nationalist - but at least it knows i'm an emigrant (though it uses the vile terms expat).

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Monday, 31 October 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

Facebook thinks I'm a millenial mezzo-soprano

¶ (DJP), Monday, 31 October 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link

close enough

mookieproof, Monday, 31 October 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link

yeah I was basically like *shrugs, sings some When Saints Go Machine falsetto stuff*

¶ (DJP), Monday, 31 October 2016 19:34 (seven years ago) link

incredible

nomar, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link

my father-in-law sent me the link to that and I think he basically stunned the entire family with the sheer chutzpah of charging that much money for collard greens

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 1 November 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link

lol @ the dialogue at the end

goole, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

every time I think I've recovered from this, I think "$66 + $15 shipping" and the giggles come back

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 1 November 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

Go on, tell me why it's called Needless Markups again?

jane burkini (suzy), Tuesday, 1 November 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link

many MANY years ago, a friend of a friend hooked me up with a caroling gig at NM; basically we had 6 ppl in old-timey gear singing "We Wish You A Merry Christmas" and stuff wandering around the store for 45 min, after which we got a gift bag of bullshit (the most useful thing in it was travel mug that should have cost $3 but was actually $19.95 or some nonsense like that)

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 1 November 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link

Had an ilx visual glitch where I read a caption as
"Markle's mom (who is hot)"

mh 😏, Thursday, 3 November 2016 00:26 (seven years ago) link

It's 2016, right?

Georgia Governor Refers To ‘Colored People’ In Education Speech

EZ Snappin, Friday, 4 November 2016 01:43 (seven years ago) link

classic NAACP-invoking dodge

electric wight dorkestra (crüt), Friday, 4 November 2016 01:54 (seven years ago) link

Who in the hell uses CP as shorthand for NAACP?

pplains, Friday, 4 November 2016 03:23 (seven years ago) link

people who are Not African American

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Friday, 4 November 2016 03:25 (seven years ago) link

mcwhorter in a sure to be controversial take:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2016/11/13/the-recreational-use-racism/TzxwI9Fg03ySKGYrCBv9SL/story.html

Mordy, Friday, 11 November 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link

I do not have the energy to read that right now

¶ (DJP), Friday, 11 November 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link

Or ever.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Saturday, 12 November 2016 12:32 (seven years ago) link

These two sentences seem rather historically ignorant:

Never in the history of human society has there reigned, among such a healthy proportion of a populace, such an advanced conception of human rights. It’s easy to forget what a moral advance the American civil rights movement was.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 12 November 2016 12:48 (seven years ago) link

The Martian anthropologist would recognize no difference between the way those accused of being witches were treated in 17th-century Salem, Mass., and the way many innocent people are being accused of “racism” today. Those appalled by the way people were tarred with the Communist label in the 1940s and 1950s must recognize that America has blundered into the same censorious mob mentality in assailing as “racists,” just recently, people such as Ellen DeGeneres — for Photoshopping herself riding on Jamaican gold medal sprinter Usain Bolt’s back in celebration of his win — and Hillary Clinton — for referring to the black men terrorizing poor black neighborhoods as “superpredators” in describing plans for protecting people in those neighborhoods from such crime.

This is obviously nuts, right? Did I miss the part where deGeneres and Clinton were at risk of being hanged or jailed for their un-PC comments?

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Saturday, 12 November 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link

Pakistani-American comedian/actor Kumail Nanjiani confronted/threatened by Trump supporters at an LA bar last night: https://twitter.com/kumailn/status/797470238614831104

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Saturday, 12 November 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link

Can we please push the Martian Anthropologist down the stairs? Who still uses that trope?

El Tomboto, Saturday, 12 November 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link

you are maybe thinking of the ED-209 anthrpologist?

the kids are alt right (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 November 2016 23:35 (seven years ago) link

Fucking hell.

ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, 13 November 2016 15:37 (seven years ago) link

I saw this on Twitter and I'm a little ashamed by how much I laughed at the person who tweeted "Shame on Chili's"

¶ (DJP), Sunday, 13 November 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link

fucking DFW burbs are such total garbage

El Tomboto, Sunday, 13 November 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link

I say that in at least partial awareness that it's a reflexive desire to localize the ugliness and put it far away from me despite the fact that it is actually everywhere

El Tomboto, Sunday, 13 November 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link

The pencil-necked Chili manager seemed to be on his douchey warpath in the first place, but something inside of him probably snapped as soon as he saw the dog's name.

pplains, Sunday, 13 November 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link

xp it may be everywhere but it's especially in the dfw suburbs, for sure.

geometry-stabilized craft (art), Sunday, 13 November 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

I linked to this in the Mourning in America thread, but seems germane here as well:

https://www.thenation.com/article/election-night-saw-victories-in-local-criminal-justice-reform-this-should-be-the-beginning/

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Monday, 14 November 2016 06:19 (seven years ago) link

i fucking hate talking about race because it's such a minefield, but against my better judgment i did anyway, and against my better judgment i'll post it here.

One of the reactions I have seen to Donald Trump's election is white people being very concerned about other white people. We wanted to believe we were different than we are, or we wanted to believe that the color of our skin didn't matter.

We don't get to live in a post-racial world, because that's not the world we made. When we gave up on busing, it became a delusional fantasy. We don't get to live in a world where women are equal to men. We gave up on that when we failed to ratify the ERA.

I didn't grow up around black people or Hispanics. I've been told that when I was in preschool, I had a black friend. I don't remember him. When I was older I did have a black friend, but I didn't recognize him as black, though I was aware of the abuse he got on account of his skin and his heritage.

We don't get to decide to not be white any more than my friend got to decide not to be black (even though his dad was white).

I think a lot about Rudyard Kipling. I read a lot of him as a child, in school and out of it. One of his most notorious poems, one I definitely read, is about "The White Man's Burden". On consideration, I think that Kipling was essentially right to talk of the white man's burden, but was wrong about its nature.

The white man's burden is shame. White shame is the appropriate counterpart to black pride. Because white pride, white superiority, is what we were raised with, and Donald Trump's election give us the chance to step back and recognize how much of a fucking lie it always was.

And this is not, this is not a fucking hashtag #notallwhitemen thing. I know you didn't vote for Donald Trump. I've already said it's not your fault. This is about living in the world everybody else already lives in, a world where people get judged and blamed for stuff they have nothing to do with based on the colour of their skin. We can't challenge injustice and pretend we're immune from its consequences. If we want to be equal, we have to feel the same things. White people have to accept the collective burden of shame, or we will never be able to lift it.

i'll take my lumps now.

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Monday, 14 November 2016 11:20 (seven years ago) link


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