bump, bum-pity, bump. anyone willing to open a new poll? the Shoegazer poll is real tempting after the Pitchfork list but i can't do that right now. if anyone wants to take the ball and run with that one i would be fine with that. otherwise i have not done a big artist poll like that and will do it next summer if no-one steps up now.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 27 October 2016 00:44 (seven years ago) link
will still do Talking Heads in Feb of 2017...
shoegaze has been done
ILM's Best Shoegaze / Dream Pop / Post-rock TRACKS poll - RESULTS THREAD
― mookieproof, Thursday, 27 October 2016 00:47 (seven years ago) link
i'm doing Albums and EP's.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 27 October 2016 00:53 (seven years ago) link
I'm still up for doing the drum 'n bass/jungle poll
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 27 October 2016 09:14 (seven years ago) link
no-one else seems to be stepping up, so go for it. should be a blast!
― Bee OK, Friday, 28 October 2016 01:22 (seven years ago) link
All right! I will arrange this and open a nomination thread early next week!!
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 28 October 2016 10:24 (seven years ago) link
For the soul albums poll I wrote an AutoHotkey script (so Windows only) that imports a folder of ballots and automatically generates the final list. No more manual spreadsheet labor.
If there's any interest, I can post the script somewhere.
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 28 October 2016 11:04 (seven years ago) link
That worked well. What's involved implementing it? As someone who knows dick all about scripts and stuff, what environment do you even run it in?
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 28 October 2016 12:16 (seven years ago) link
(watching a Youtube tutorial rn)
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 28 October 2016 12:21 (seven years ago) link
That'd be great ArchCarrier! I'll try and figure out how to use that asap
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 28 October 2016 12:36 (seven years ago) link
The only thing you need is AutoHotkey itself. After you install it, you can just double click the script file and let it do its thing.
Here's the installer (exe file).
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 28 October 2016 15:14 (seven years ago) link
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And once you've installed the program and start using it, your life will never be the same. I use it to start programs or do web searches from anywhere with just one keyboard shortcut, it automatically expands abbreviations to longer pieces of text (phone numbers, email addresses, long words that are hard to type...).
</offtopic>
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 28 October 2016 15:19 (seven years ago) link
Okay, installed. Please share the script. :)
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 28 October 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link
this is awesome stuff ArchCarrier, can't wait to use it for my next poll if you share.
poll number 62 = drum 'n bass/jungle.
nice
― Bee OK, Saturday, 29 October 2016 02:02 (seven years ago) link
OK, here is the script: http://pastebin.com/hT45S5Rf
How to use it:0. Install AutoHotkey if you haven't done so.1. Save the script to a folder, for example 'ILM poll'. It doesn't matter what you call the script file, but make sure it has the extension .ahk2. Create a subdirectory in that folder called 'ballots'. In this folder you put the ballots in .txt format, one file per user, one album (or song) per line.3. Run the script by double clicking on it. If you get a Windows error that there's no program associated with .ahk files then something went wrong with the installation of AutoHotkey.
After the script has run, there should be a new text file called votes.txt. This is a list of the final results sorted by points. But see the Issues below for final sorting.
NominationsIf you use nominations in your poll, you can save that list in a file called master.txt in the main 'ILM Poll' folder. If there's such a file, the script will search through the list and give a warning if an album on a ballot is not present in the noms list. It even opens the naughty ballot in Notepad for you.
IssuesUnfortunately, the script can only sort by one column, so you have to paste votes.txt in Excel or LibreOffice and do a final sort on 1) points, 2) number of votes, 3) number ones. Because of this issue, tied votes are not detected.Once I find a way to sort by multiple columns, I'll update the script.
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 29 October 2016 07:06 (seven years ago) link
PointsThe script is based on 50 albums; the first gets 50 points, the second 49, down to 1 point for the last album on a ballot. If you use a different point system you need to change line 33. Let me know if you need help with this.
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 29 October 2016 07:25 (seven years ago) link
You can test the script with the ballots from the soul poll: http://pastebin.com/raw/0CsqNduJJust create a couple of text files; the different ballots are separated by a line of dashes.
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 29 October 2016 07:43 (seven years ago) link
Thanks so much!
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 29 October 2016 12:58 (seven years ago) link
Sure, no problem! And let me know if you need any help.
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 29 October 2016 13:08 (seven years ago) link
I'm not the person to run it, but we really should have a Leonard Cohen memorial tracks/albums poll.
― a full playlist of presidential apocalypse jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 11 November 2016 02:49 (seven years ago) link
Oh hell yes.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 11 November 2016 02:52 (seven years ago) link
As I mentioned on the RIP thread, I can run it.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 13 November 2016 05:00 (seven years ago) link
Can I just go ahead with it? Was anyone waiting to launch one?
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 13 November 2016 05:03 (seven years ago) link
There was supposed to be a jungle/drum & bass poll next, but it doesn't look like Le Bateau Ivre has started any nomination thread? I was looking forward to that.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 13 November 2016 19:37 (seven years ago) link
Me too, Tuomas, but I won't be able to organize it any time soon (you arent on 77 right? Explained it there, its because of family issues, sadly will not have time to start it any time soon)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 13 November 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link
In memoriam polls usually go ahead regardless of schedule so Cohen should be ok.
― gospodin simmel, Sunday, 13 November 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link
OK, assuming there are no issues I'll start the voting thread sometime this week.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 14 November 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link
Thanks, Simon I am looking forward to the poll:POLL on, my brother: The Leonard Cohen Memorial POLL Voting Thread - Ballots due Midnight ET, Dec. 1st
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link
do we have a Power Ballads poll on the list?would anyone else want one?
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 27 November 2016 05:24 (seven years ago) link
I'd probably chuck in a (power) ballot.
― chap, Monday, 28 November 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link
updated to close 2016 (added a few links from our recent polls):
A. Pavement - Johnny Fever (finished) B. Manic Street Preachers - Jamie_ATP (finished)C. Blur - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)1. Pet Shop Boys - Billy Dods (finished)2. Beatles - Mark G (finished)3. Prince - Jamie_ATP (finished)4. U2 - Ismael Klata (finished)5. Beach Boys - iatee (finished)6. Led Zeppelin - WmC (finished)7. Timbaland - some dude (finished)8. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever (finished)9. Stevie Wonder - Eric H. (finished)10. “Producers” - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)11. Pulp - Finefinemusic (finished)12. James Brown - strongo/Shakey Mo Collier (finished)13. Jacksons - Jamie_ATP (finished)14. David Bowie - WmC (finished)15. Paul Simon - Lamp (finished)16. Rolling Stones - rogermexico (finished)17. The Kinks - C. Grisso/McCain (finished)18. Depeche Mode - crüt (finished)19. Beastie Boys - Johnny Fever (finished)20. ABBA - donna rouge (finished)20B. Bee Gees - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)21. Neil Young - clemenza (finished)22. Fleetwood Mac - Clarke B. (finished)23. The Cure - nate woolls (finished)24. Kate Bush - Ismael Klata (finished)25. The Who - Tarfumes the Escape Goat (finished)26. Joni Mitchell - Mordy (finished)27. The Neptunes - V79/some dude (finished)28. Saint Etienne - Billy Dods (finished)29. Hüsker Dü - Pleasant Plains (finished)30. Bruce Springsteen - Jamie_ATP (finished)31. Madonna - Johnny Fever (finished)32. Miles Davis - WmC (finished)33. The Fall - Mark G (finished)34. PJ Harvey - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)35. Cocteau Twins - Le Bateau Ivre/LeRooLeRoo (finished)36. Sonic Youth - ArchCarrier (finished)37. New Order - Bee OK (finished) I feel so extraordinary somePoll's got a hold on me: NEW ORDER artist poll #37 (RESULTS thread)37B. The Doors - Ismael Klata (finished)38. The Clash - Gukbe (finished)39. Motown Singles - a hoy hoy (finished)40. Jay-Z - some dude (finished)41. Elton John - Johnny Fever (finished)42. Stax - seandalai (finished)43. Disco - Tuomas (finished)44. R. Kelly - Spottie_Ottie_Dope (finished)45. Tom Waits - chap (finished)45B. Velvet Underground and Solo Careers - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)46. The “Classic Rock” Canon - some dude (finished)47. Elvis Costello - kornrulez (finished)48. Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry - charlie h (finished)49. Pink Floyd - Elvis Telecom (finished)50. Steely Dan - Bee OK (finished) Polled At Last: STEELY DAN - ILM Artist poll #5051. Bob Dylan - tipsy mothra (finished)52. Sleater-Kinney + offshoots - C.Grisso/McCain (finished)53. Outkast - Spottie (finished)54. Autechre - Leee (finished)55. Brian Eno - WmC (finished)56. Radiohead - nate woolls (finished)57. Spaceman 3 (& descendants) - Elvis Telecom (finished) 58. "Epics" - Leee (finished)59. XTC - Οὖτις (finished)60. The Boo Radleys - Bee OK (finished) Just a simple song but God I love it Embedded in me, so bittersweet I’m addicted, I’m a melancholic Sing it again, I’ll be your Poll forever: THE BOO RADLEYS - ILM artist poll #60 or new numbering #6561. Yo La Tengo - Van Horn Street/clemenza (finished)62. Creedence Clearwater Revival - crüt (finished)63. Ramones - tipsy mothra (finished) 64. Italo - daavid (finished)65. P-Funk - Οὖτις (finished) 66. Metallica - pplains (finished) Deez POLLABLE Heroes - THE ILM //METALLICA\ POLL RESULTS67. Spoon - Bee OK (finished) POLL POLL POLL POLL POLL - SPOON (ILM artist poll #67) --- The results thread68. Queen - charlie h (finished) The Fairy POLLers Master-Stroke: The ILX Queen Poll Results Thread (#68 in a series)69B. Pixies - Johnny Fever (finished) Hey Paul, Hey Paul, Hey Paul, let's have a POLL: ILM Artist Poll #69 • Pixies (results!)69. Nirvana - Gavin, Leeds (finished) Teenage angst has paid off well / Now I'm bored and POLLed: The ILM Nirvana poll results thread (Poll #69)70. Extreme Metal - Viceroy (finished) Finally... The Top 200 Extreme Metal Albums of ALL TIME!(results)71. Tom Petty - rogermexico. (finished) YOU RANK ME BABY, YEAH YOU RATE ME 1-2 - ILM Artist Poll #71 - Tom Petty (results)72. The Smiths - nate woolls (finished) IF IT'S NOT LOVE THEN IT'S THE POLL THAT WILL BRING US TOGETHER - ILM Artist Poll #72 - THE SMITHS - RESULTS THREAD73. Bauhaus/Tones on Tail-Love and Rockets/Peter Murphy - Bee OK (finished) We POLL Our Audience: You, The Night and The Music - BAUHAUS - Love and Rockets, Tones on Tail, Peter Murphy etcetera - ILM artist poll number 73 - results thread74. Stereolab - Moka (finished) LM Artist Poll No. 74 · STEREOLAB · Results Thread75. Van Halen - Johnny Fever (finished) Have you seen Junior's grades?! ILM Artist Poll #75 - VAN HALEN (Results thread)76. Devo - soref (finished) in the past this information has been suppressed, but now it can be POLLED - Devo ballot poll results thread77. Can - Z S Moka (finished) ILM Artist Poll No. 77 · CAN · Results Thread78. Oasis - Bee OK (finished) POLL With It - OASIS (ILM artist poll #78) --- The results thread79. George Michael - Ismael Klata (finished) Hot damn! Everybody let's play the GEORGE MICHAEL TRACKS POLL results thread80. The Stooges/Iggy Pop - Moka (finished) ILM Artist Poll No. 80 · Iggy & The Stooges · Results Thread81. Leonard Cohen - Simon H. (finished) Laughing Len strikes again: ILM Artist Poll #81 - Leonard Cohen
Hard Rock/Hair Metal - gr8080Stephin Merritt - GukbeFairport Convention et al (R Thompson, S Denny) - Billy DodsJimi Hendrix - some dudeGenesis + solo - NickBThe Burt Bacharach songbook - C. Grisso/McCainDead C - Raymond CummingsRoyal Trux + side projects - sleeveJohn Fahey - Naive Teen Idol?Rush - Matt #2Talking Heads - Bee OKGamble & Huff/Philly International Records - jetfanBilly Joel - Doctor CasinoLow - aldoNine Inch Nails - chapREM - rogermexico.Bjork - Eric H.Wu-Tang Clan - SpottieShoegaze/Dream Pop/Post-rock (Albums and EPs) - Bee OKCovers - kornrulez6969New Pornographers/AC Newman - staggerleeThey Might Be Giants - Johnny FeverNo Wave - sarahellDFA - Van Horn StreetMisfits/Samhain/Danzig - gr8080Beatles solo careers - ΟὖτιςErykah Badu - Eric H.Nick Cave/Bad Seeds/Birthday Party/et al - charlie hHerbie Hancock - crütAphex Twin - Stevie D**The Jesus and Mary Chain - Bee OK (instead of Blondie)Blondie - Bee OK pollrunner needed for this oneJimmy Jam & Terry Lewis - SpottieSiouxsie & the Banshees/The Creatures - LeRooLeRooAM Radio Gold - Jeff WEurovision - nxdSteve Albini - nate woollsYellow Magic Orchestra - frogbsElvis Presley - EulerByrds + offshoots - kornrulez6969Cardiacs + affiliated - imagoTropicalia/MPB - Frederik BChic Organization - pollrunner needed for this oneFrench/Francophone - Van Horn StreetSmashing Pumpkins - Bee OK
*Added:
The Cars/Ric Ocasek - crütTim Buckley - Naive Teen IdolVan Morrison - kornrulez6969Animal Collective - flappy birdThe Cramps - MokaBristol trip-hop - chapWire - kornrulez6969jungle/drum 'n bass - Le Bateau IvreSuede - Bee OK
Robyn Hitchcock - campreverbPower Ballads - rogermexico.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 22 December 2016 03:39 (seven years ago) link
Some really great stuff coming up, sooner and later. Not sure if I noticed Pumpkins getting added but that will be a fun one IMO.
― mega pegasus for reindeer (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 22 December 2016 15:30 (seven years ago) link
Just curious, did we ever decide we'd do a ILM Best of 2010-2014 rollout? I believe we did one for 2005-2009 back in the day.
― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Monday, 16 January 2017 23:34 (seven years ago) link
I was going to last summer, but nobody (including me) was super enthused about it, so it just kinda evaporated.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 03:57 (seven years ago) link
some folks tried to turn it into a 2000-2014 poll iirc
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 03:59 (seven years ago) link
I think the consensus was that no good music was released from 2010-2014, promising a rather grim affair.
― mega pegasus for reindeer (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 04:25 (seven years ago) link
Ha, thanks all. I'm sure it's a ton of work to put that together. And who knows what the turnout would be. Hopefully we do a 2010-2019 poll when the time comes.
― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:00 (seven years ago) link
If JF doesn't want to do a 2000-14 poll Then I maybe could if there's demand.Maybe jf could be persuaded to do tracks and I do albums?
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:17 (seven years ago) link
the 2000-15 metal poll went nicely so it would make a nice companion
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:18 (seven years ago) link
oh does anybody want to do a kylie minogue poll? is this where i ask that sort of question? i'd run it.
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:36 (seven years ago) link
wooooo
― nxd, Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link
I would definitely vote in a Kylie poll.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 19 January 2017 16:25 (seven years ago) link
I feel like the commentary around the fifteen-year poll idea was that it would basically be impossible to make a meaningful ballot with that much stuff on the table - as tempting as a "all music released since ILM existed" poll might seem, conceptually. Whereas the five-year things, though still overbroad, do hypothetically suggest taking stock of the recent past in what might be a SLIGHTLY more coherent fashion - some kind of 'era' at stake.
― stein beck ii: the wrath of grapes (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 19 January 2017 16:26 (seven years ago) link
I feel like the commentary around the fifteen-year poll idea was that it would basically be impossible to make a meaningful ballot with that much stuff on the table
I disagree. It would mean you really were picking the cream of what was released.
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 19 January 2017 16:29 (seven years ago) link
It would be much fresher to just have a 2010-14 poll. If we did a 2000-14 one we'd be just going over the same albums again (Sound Of Silver, Kid A, Silent Shout, Discovery etc). Also, Bee just did all those 00s polls recently which already gave away how the results might look. Doing a poll for those first five years of the decade gives other albums a chance to shine.
Really though, I just want to see what will happen if Kaputt wins.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 19 January 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link
wasn't that why some posters didn't want a poll? lol
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:16 (seven years ago) link
i'm on team 2010-2014
― example (crüt), Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link
My view on a lifetime of ILM poll was simply thata)companion to metal pollb)most ilxors weren't posting in those early days
but it doesnt really matter does it?
I'll do a lifetime poll but if someone else would rather do a 2010-14 poll they can volunteer and I'll step aside no probs
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link
crut its your poll if you want it
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link