OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

I really am baffled at the consensus about this article -- the thing that gives me pause is that a lot of these assumptions are Kesha's, and if anyone has the right to completely hate pop music and making it, she probably does at this point.

(btw I was referring to the indie dudes retiring, not the kesha profile, which I haven't read)

i also learnt to write in the west midlands so i guess i am a test case, terrible music-writing-wise

also there are lots and lots of sheep there

i appear twice in a the enemy video, for a total of 4 seconds #funfact

we should do a thread on those "setting the scene ledes"

Sitting at a table at the Beverly Hills Four Season, surrounded by an assortment of G-Unit associates, 50 Cent listlessly picks at a plate of nachos.

meek mill looked through his glasses was my fav

"I'm not sure you ever really leave the Midwest..."

Conor O'Berst is sitting at a Shakey's Pizza buffet in a post suburb of Omaha, the town where he grew up and turned into an indie-rock mecca. He is 36 years old.

we should do a thread on those "setting the scene ledes"

― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, October 26, 2016 5:10 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Me and D-40 and Jordan S. used to talk about this all the time. There was a classic Jordan tweet about it

https://twitter.com/jordansarge/status/429349381142093824

i kind of like the apostrophe there in O'Berst, makes me think of the guy in a different way

also I know Ben Folds means well but if he only knows one musician who "has gone from being packaged to real" then he knows remarkably few musicians. (like, he for sure knows Tori Amos, right?)

hi ben. may i introduce you to the beatles? or stevie wonder? or michael jackson? or, oh, i don't know, your entire industry?

jesus, will oldham. now i've read everything.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-new-lady-gaga-album-joanne-where-the-freaks-have-no-game/2016/10/28/87a7c8a6-9d0e-11e6-b3c9-f662adaa0048_story.html?tid=ss_fb-amp

This is strangely reported throughout
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7557827/sarah-silverman-fred-armisen-weird-al-yankovic-festival-supreme-tenacious-d

strangely reported as though the readers not only didn't know the comedians but didn't know what comedy is

I don't have a problem with the piece in general, but this bit from the NYT Magazine profile of Kesha was odd:

When the album was released, Kesha says, she was surprised that people criticized her for singing about the same things that her heroes, Bob Dylan and the Beastie Boys and Iggy Pop and Fugazi and Johnny Cash, had always been celebrated for.

Ah yes, who could forget all those celebrated Fugazi songs about drinking and partying?

lesser known works in their catalog

yeah whenever i want to pre-game i throw on some Bob Dylan cos he's always singing about partying

Rainy Day Women, BRAAAAAAAH

Street Legal

from the 6 Best Things About a Tegan and Sara Show:

Their outfits are consistently on point and reflect the super-cool style they carry in their music. For the Love You to Death tour, the entire band has been rocking an all-white ensemble, plus a jacket of some sort for Tegan and Sara (usually a darker color or black). Can they get any cooler?

Show http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7565716/tegan-and-sara-show-best-things

Noisey declares itself a voice of resistance.

It's been disheartening to see some entertainment outlets already begin to normalize Donald Trump, as if he is any way a traditional candidate or a leader whose opinions merely diverge from the norm. We at Noisey have zero interest in doing this. In fact, the agenda we plan on pursuing over the next four years will be the polar opposite. We will relentlessly and unrepentantly rail against fascism and bigotry in all forms. Further, we will continue to celebrate the culturally diverse voices that make America's music scenes wholly vital, unique, and wonderful.

...

We're going to fight like fuck for music fans who feel like they don't have a voice in Donald Trump's America. We're going to fight like fuck to give a home to artists willing to speak out against oppression, misogyny, white supremacy, and xenophobia. We're going to fight like fuck to provide an outlet to artists and writers of color, to writers who are women, who are immigrants, who are Muslim, who are working class, and who are members of the LGBTQIA community. We're going to fight like fuck to use our platform here at Noisey to oppose everything Donald Trump and his administration represent.

Noisey is still owned by Vice, right?

some rad people write for Noisey,some shitty ones too. the same applies to Vice
'twas ever thus

I write for Noisey. Got a piece going up this week, I think. I just think it's funny that they're pretending/hoping nobody remembers who their parent company is and what that brand has stood for over the last, what, 20 years?

psyched that the music blog isn't going to normalize donald trump

in these times of domestic catastrophe and paralyzing anxiety, it is comforting to know that the world is ready to return to intra-media feuds

hi katherine

imo their brand has changed a lot, but yeah xxp

fight like fuck

would you like some fighting fuck, beseeeerkerrrr

lol

lede:

It’s a fool’s game to try to make diagnoses as to what might or might not be wrong with celebrities who one has never actually met in real life. Or, worse, it’s actively counter-productive: it can lead to the excusing of behavior that’s inexcusable, or conversely, condemnation of behavior that should be considered in the context of mental illness.

headline, subhed and rest of story:

It Appears That All Is Not Well With Kanye West

Kanye looks like he could use some help.

there’s something going on with Kanye West, and it’s upsetting.

West did seem particularly emotional on Saturday night.

it’s hard to listen to this speech and not get the feeling that all is not well with Kanye West.

e’ve seen this movie before — a talented, unstable artist becoming more and more erratic, being egged on all the while by the press and the public, who love the vicarious consumption of “madness” without ever having to live its reality.

above from flavorwire

psyched that the music blog isn't going to normalize donald trump

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, November 15, 2016 12:53 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maybe pfork can give him one of those rare 0.0s

trumpistan

Trump= Shit, Cat

more from the piece

We are going to start every week by re-reading this letter. We are going to remember our outrage at this moment and let it fuel our direction over the next four years. We are never going to let ourselves get complacent. We are never going to let the flames of resistance burn out.

after the fourth or fifth week of someone re-reading this letter to the staff people will start to feel pretty embarrassed about the whole thing. almost want to write a bot to tweet at noisey every monday "welcome to the workweek! have you reread your letter yet? reread it like fuck!"

Life comes at you fast

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/i-got-trashed-on-whisky-with-brendon-urie-from-panic-at-the-disco

wow

Urie has been in the music industry for over a decade, the last remaining original member in a band who have consistently taken something inherently theatrical and turned it into something sincere, accessible, and fucking cool. He is one of the most versatile and enduring artists to emerge from a period in which people genuinely wore a tie and a t-shirt approximately two sizes too small. He delivers personal anecdotes like he's auditioning for a film about his own life, expressing joy in such overt ways that, if it wasn't a completely dehumanising concept, I would start a petition suggesting that everyone feeling weathered and weary of life should be prescribed fifteen minutes with him.

what the hell let's do it anyway

I got tired just reading that

I find myself often wondering where the good writing is on Vice that explains its profile.

so talk to me a LOT about this alcohol you're drinking... in fact let's just have that be half the interview

"That was the same year that less critically-adored but more groundbreaking albums were released by System of a Down (Toxicity), Thursday (Full Collapse), Jimmy Eat World (Bleed American), and Tool (Lateralus), to name a few."

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/if-rock-is-the-new-jazz-then-i-blame-the-strokes/?trackback=tsmclip

groundbreaking claymation...

always surprised when a brooklyn vegan post isn't just tour dates

I look at my parents and they just keep getting better with age, like really good wine. They get funnier, sometimes more aggressive but in a funny way… I think 30 is going to be fun.

so glad vice is fighting like fuck to give a voice to this in trump's america

it's been a while since I saw jerry maguire but iirc basically he wakes up hungover after writing the mission statement and realises he'd rather continue being a cunt after all

Fight Like Fuck would make a great album title.

Slipknot - Fight Like Fuck

The Who - Fight Like Fuck

Tindersticks - Fight Like Fuck

We should really just start a separate thread so we can clown that essay for four years