kesha's last album, warrior, had a cover featuring the pop star staring off to the west, green dust exploding from her head, a polygon-laden dress covering her body at strange angles like a unraveled bucky ball. the california hills in the background were purple, not their iconic verdant green, suggesting that things as we usually know them are, in fact, not what they seem. it's fitting then that kesha has had to be a "warrior" fighting in a strange world for the last four years.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link
i think "very good" is a stretch. i saw lots of lazy assumptions about pop and pop fans
― maura, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link
lol @ "iconic verdant green"
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:37 (seven years ago) link
remember that period of time where music reviews in themselves were entertaining or inspiring? idk, it was probably an artifact of my age at the time
now I'm more interested in well-written and informative for music I might like, and failing that, a complete trainwreck of an article like this I can giggle at
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link
I really am baffled at the consensus about this article -- the thing that gives me pause is that a lot of these assumptions are Kesha's, and if anyone has the right to completely hate pop music and making it, she probably does at this point.
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link
(btw I was referring to the indie dudes retiring, not the kesha profile, which I haven't read)
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link
i also learnt to write in the west midlands so i guess i am a test case, terrible music-writing-wise
also there are lots and lots of sheep there
― mark s, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link
i appear twice in a the enemy video, for a total of 4 seconds #funfact
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link
we should do a thread on those "setting the scene ledes"
Sitting at a table at the Beverly Hills Four Season, surrounded by an assortment of G-Unit associates, 50 Cent listlessly picks at a plate of nachos.
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link
meek mill looked through his glasses was my fav
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link
"I'm not sure you ever really leave the Midwest..."
Conor O'Berst is sitting at a Shakey's Pizza buffet in a post suburb of Omaha, the town where he grew up and turned into an indie-rock mecca. He is 36 years old.
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, October 26, 2016 5:10 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Me and D-40 and Jordan S. used to talk about this all the time. There was a classic Jordan tweet about it
https://twitter.com/jordansarge/status/429349381142093824
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link
i kind of like the apostrophe there in O'Berst, makes me think of the guy in a different way
― tylerw, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link
also I know Ben Folds means well but if he only knows one musician who "has gone from being packaged to real" then he knows remarkably few musicians. (like, he for sure knows Tori Amos, right?)
hi ben. may i introduce you to the beatles? or stevie wonder? or michael jackson? or, oh, i don't know, your entire industry?
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link
jesus, will oldham. now i've read everything.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-new-lady-gaga-album-joanne-where-the-freaks-have-no-game/2016/10/28/87a7c8a6-9d0e-11e6-b3c9-f662adaa0048_story.html?tid=ss_fb-amp
― scott seward, Sunday, 30 October 2016 02:38 (seven years ago) link
This is strangely reported throughouthttp://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7557827/sarah-silverman-fred-armisen-weird-al-yankovic-festival-supreme-tenacious-d
― Frozen CD, Monday, 31 October 2016 01:10 (seven years ago) link
strangely reported as though the readers not only didn't know the comedians but didn't know what comedy is
― Britney Thinkpeace (m coleman), Monday, 31 October 2016 02:31 (seven years ago) link
I don't have a problem with the piece in general, but this bit from the NYT Magazine profile of Kesha was odd:
When the album was released, Kesha says, she was surprised that people criticized her for singing about the same things that her heroes, Bob Dylan and the Beastie Boys and Iggy Pop and Fugazi and Johnny Cash, had always been celebrated for.
Ah yes, who could forget all those celebrated Fugazi songs about drinking and partying?
― JRN, Monday, 31 October 2016 03:48 (seven years ago) link
lesser known works in their catalog
― mh 😏, Monday, 31 October 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link
yeah whenever i want to pre-game i throw on some Bob Dylan cos he's always singing about partying
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 31 October 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link
Rainy Day Women, BRAAAAAAAH
― hardcore dilettante, Monday, 31 October 2016 23:24 (seven years ago) link
Street Legal
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 November 2016 00:10 (seven years ago) link
from the 6 Best Things About a Tegan and Sara Show:
Their outfits are consistently on point and reflect the super-cool style they carry in their music. For the Love You to Death tour, the entire band has been rocking an all-white ensemble, plus a jacket of some sort for Tegan and Sara (usually a darker color or black). Can they get any cooler?
Show http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7565716/tegan-and-sara-show-best-things
― Frozen CD, Sunday, 6 November 2016 01:24 (seven years ago) link
Noisey declares itself a voice of resistance.
It's been disheartening to see some entertainment outlets already begin to normalize Donald Trump, as if he is any way a traditional candidate or a leader whose opinions merely diverge from the norm. We at Noisey have zero interest in doing this. In fact, the agenda we plan on pursuing over the next four years will be the polar opposite. We will relentlessly and unrepentantly rail against fascism and bigotry in all forms. Further, we will continue to celebrate the culturally diverse voices that make America's music scenes wholly vital, unique, and wonderful.
...
We're going to fight like fuck for music fans who feel like they don't have a voice in Donald Trump's America. We're going to fight like fuck to give a home to artists willing to speak out against oppression, misogyny, white supremacy, and xenophobia. We're going to fight like fuck to provide an outlet to artists and writers of color, to writers who are women, who are immigrants, who are Muslim, who are working class, and who are members of the LGBTQIA community. We're going to fight like fuck to use our platform here at Noisey to oppose everything Donald Trump and his administration represent.
Noisey is still owned by Vice, right?
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link
some rad people write for Noisey,some shitty ones too. the same applies to Vice'twas ever thus
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link
I write for Noisey. Got a piece going up this week, I think. I just think it's funny that they're pretending/hoping nobody remembers who their parent company is and what that brand has stood for over the last, what, 20 years?
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link
psyched that the music blog isn't going to normalize donald trump
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link
in these times of domestic catastrophe and paralyzing anxiety, it is comforting to know that the world is ready to return to intra-media feuds
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link
hi katherine
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link
imo their brand has changed a lot, but yeah xxp
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link
fight like fuck
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link
would you like some fighting fuck, beseeeerkerrrr
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link
lol
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link
lede:
It’s a fool’s game to try to make diagnoses as to what might or might not be wrong with celebrities who one has never actually met in real life. Or, worse, it’s actively counter-productive: it can lead to the excusing of behavior that’s inexcusable, or conversely, condemnation of behavior that should be considered in the context of mental illness.
headline, subhed and rest of story:
It Appears That All Is Not Well With Kanye West
Kanye looks like he could use some help.
there’s something going on with Kanye West, and it’s upsetting.
West did seem particularly emotional on Saturday night.
it’s hard to listen to this speech and not get the feeling that all is not well with Kanye West.
e’ve seen this movie before — a talented, unstable artist becoming more and more erratic, being egged on all the while by the press and the public, who love the vicarious consumption of “madness” without ever having to live its reality.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 21 November 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link
above from flavorwire
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, November 15, 2016 12:53 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
maybe pfork can give him one of those rare 0.0s
― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Monday, 28 November 2016 19:01 (seven years ago) link
trumpistan
― mookieproof, Monday, 28 November 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link
Trump= Shit, Cat
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link
more from the piece
We are going to start every week by re-reading this letter. We are going to remember our outrage at this moment and let it fuel our direction over the next four years. We are never going to let ourselves get complacent. We are never going to let the flames of resistance burn out.
after the fourth or fifth week of someone re-reading this letter to the staff people will start to feel pretty embarrassed about the whole thing. almost want to write a bot to tweet at noisey every monday "welcome to the workweek! have you reread your letter yet? reread it like fuck!"
― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 04:16 (seven years ago) link
Life comes at you fast
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/i-got-trashed-on-whisky-with-brendon-urie-from-panic-at-the-disco
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:15 (seven years ago) link
wow
― niels, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:01 (seven years ago) link
Urie has been in the music industry for over a decade, the last remaining original member in a band who have consistently taken something inherently theatrical and turned it into something sincere, accessible, and fucking cool. He is one of the most versatile and enduring artists to emerge from a period in which people genuinely wore a tie and a t-shirt approximately two sizes too small. He delivers personal anecdotes like he's auditioning for a film about his own life, expressing joy in such overt ways that, if it wasn't a completely dehumanising concept, I would start a petition suggesting that everyone feeling weathered and weary of life should be prescribed fifteen minutes with him.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link
what the hell let's do it anyway
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:09 (seven years ago) link
I got tired just reading that
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link
I find myself often wondering where the good writing is on Vice that explains its profile.
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link
so talk to me a LOT about this alcohol you're drinking... in fact let's just have that be half the interview
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link
"That was the same year that less critically-adored but more groundbreaking albums were released by System of a Down (Toxicity), Thursday (Full Collapse), Jimmy Eat World (Bleed American), and Tool (Lateralus), to name a few."
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/if-rock-is-the-new-jazz-then-i-blame-the-strokes/?trackback=tsmclip
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link
groundbreaking claymation...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link
always surprised when a brooklyn vegan post isn't just tour dates
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link
I look at my parents and they just keep getting better with age, like really good wine. They get funnier, sometimes more aggressive but in a funny way… I think 30 is going to be fun.
so glad vice is fighting like fuck to give a voice to this in trump's america
― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 23:06 (seven years ago) link