You mean he has the ability to be level-headed and help out talented artists who might be struggling with their own issues, one of whom was his cousin?
― mh ð, Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link
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â Âķ (DJP), Thursday, October 20, 2016 3:48 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link
I was keying in more on "civilized"
― mh ð, Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link
(I also take issue with the idea that anything Azealia Banks did was "brilliant" but that's a dead horse I've beaten to death)
― ¶ (DJP), Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link
RZA is a 5% which I find crazy (religious people in general are a bit crazy imho). 5% includes a belief that white people were created by an evil scientist named Yakub 6000 years ago (not joking about this). Originally created by black men as a response to being told they were animals for centuries. So if you want to really bring race to this conversation, by being a 5% RZA is slightly racist as he believes in a system thay has no place in modern times.
― âââ (Moka), Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link
welp
― ¶ (DJP), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link
so you scoured wikipedia to support your off-base claims
― Spottie, Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link
He also has a stated belief that Staten Island is something called "the shaolin"
― mh ð, Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link
What the hell. Anyway, statement from RZA from a couple of hours back:
https://www.facebook.com/RZAWU/posts/10155887458442588
Peace. Normally I don't respond to negative social media attacks towards me. Yet in this case of Azealia Banks I'm compelled to respond. Firstly I only wish the best for her and any struggling artist in this complex industry. Azealia was brought to my attention while I was casting my next Film Coco. I heard the rumors of her problems in the industry but disregarded them with the rationality everyone is innocent until proven guilty. So my producer and I fought for her to be in the film and we succeeded. During the filming process things ran smooth and she delivered. Thus my only experience with her had been professional. The only brief social moment was at the wrap party. Therefore "I HAD NO REAL EXPERIENCE OF HER SOCIAL BEHAVIOR..." A few weeks ago Azealia hit me up for some economic help and bong I gave a helping hand. She then followed up asking me to help her get a record deal. I called a friend and bong a record deal was on the table. The only clause my buddy gave was I be the filter because the word is "she is volatile". I called her and told her a deal was in the workings. She immediately, prematurely went to social media and claimed she signed a deal with RZA Yet no deal was signed. I didn't respond or comment to her post because I'm not the type to stop the hustle. I actually wanted her to win. I advised her to stay focus, leave social media and tabloids alone and let your music and art do your talking. She then hits me for a ticket to LA to work and Bong I comply. She then needs a place to stay and bong I put her in a hotel.I returned to LA shortly after and we scheduled a meeting. I invited her to meet me at the BHH Polo Lounge. Yet I head also planned on spending some time with my Buddy RC in his suite so I ask him can she join. He says "cool Bobby" so I invited her. Before the night is over Azealia is insulting half the room she becomes loud and obnoxious. There was nothing funny about her behavior. I felt a little embarrassed because she was my guest. Still verbal abuse can be tolerated but when it goes physical...Azealia threaten to cut a girl in the face with a glass, then actually grabs a glass and physically attacks for no logical reason. Russell blocked the attack and expelled her from the suite. Seeing is believing and I saw her behave as an obnoxious erratic individual and in the circles I frequent this was unprecedented. I was totally puzzles by her and thought maybe meds or booze or something had her zoned out. Nevertheless I made sure she got home safe. THIS IS NOT A RACE OR GENDER ISSUE. I did not hear Russell call her a N::gg::::I'm not trying to protect Russell from anything he is a man of his own Caliber. My art, talent and success speaks for it self and Azealia's recent slander of me and self victimization reflect's the personality of the person that was in that room that night. I have a wife, daughters, sisters and females on my staff so I protect women everyday. I pray none of them ever behave the way I witnessed Azealia Banks behaved that night.Rza
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link
No I already knew Wu Tang connection to the five percent movement and I've always find that whole thing as crazy bullshit but it doesn't diminish my enjoyment of their music.
― âââ (Moka), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link
5% includes a belief that white people were created by an evil scientist named Yakub 6000 years ago
grafted white devil lacks overstanding of the universal nation of gods & earths, needs to study his lessons, film at 11
build & destroygod cipher divine- sh@kedown 13x
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link
I am glad RZA still uses "bong" as an interjection
― mh ð, Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link
That's a great statement by RZA and somehow makes me feel sad for Azealia. Had a chance to be big and blew it.
― âââ (Moka), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link
He completely explicates his mental issues in this testimony from a court of law.
The year '84, November, day 10Overwhelmed by the wicked inspirations of an evil djinnI realize my ideas have spawned for 400 yearsOf blood sweat and tearsI saw the torture, brutal murder of my fatherSo my brain became stained with the horrorI'm having reoccurring nightmaresOf being soaking wet, strapped down to the electric chairI got tackled with handcuffs and shackled in restraintAt the bottom of a holy tabernacleThey gave me nothing to eat for two weeksAnd sewed my eye lids open so I couldn't sleepAbout to die from thirst, that's when the ministerQuenched my jaws with a cold glass of vinegarUpon my wounds they seasoned me with saltAnd nailed my hands feet to the form of a crossAhh!! I cryAs the blood drips inside of my eye refusing to dieVisions of Hell tormented my faithSo I chewed my fucking arm off and made an escape
― how's life, Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link
RZA sounding pro-Trump here but in a weirdly naive way, also watches Fox news because they keep it gully?http://thetalkhouse.com/rza-talks-paul-banks-interpol-talkhouse-music-podcast/
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link
â blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), jueves 20 de octubre de 2016 22:04 (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakub_(Nation_of_Islam)
Teach me then how this belief doesn't sound racist
― âââ (Moka), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:13 (seven years ago) link
The 5% Nation is not the NOI you fucking illiterate
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link
1) I feel like, I dunno, there's crazier beliefs out there based on human history than the white man being the devil2) I have always always always love cryptic 5% slang, terminology & symbolism since back when you'd see it in old King Sun videos and shit like that3) I guess it's "racist" kinda but I mean white people being created in a lab is just awesome on some level that someone believes that and it's no skin off my nose4) The extent any of its theoretical "racism" is actually having any effect in the world is pretty minimal if at all, it's certainly not oppressing white ppl or anything5) the real prob w/it is that it informs the really toxic homophobia that's always bubbling beneath the surface of any old school east coast street rappers (beanie sigel's recent comments on breakfast club FYI) or anything the asshole at large lord jamar says on his regular VLAD TV spots
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link
They share the same beliefs tho:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-Percent_Nation#
Like the Nation of Islam, the Five-Percenter ideology promulgates the theory that the white race was created by a black scientist named Yakub, who lived 6,600 years ago and was responsible for creating the white race to be a race of devils.
Now what say you? You fucking illiterate
― âââ (Moka), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link
quick, someone throw a glass
― ¶ (DJP), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link
knowing all the five percenter references makes me laugh that much harder at desus' jokes on twitter
― mh ð, Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link
not trusting what they say about it on this wiki tricknology
moka is european or something fwiw, not that it necessarily excuses anything, but just a little context
― k3vin k., Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link
u mean yakubian
― mh ð, Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link
I don't understand anything you guys are on about anymore. Go back to AB again.
― âââ (Moka), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link
I wish I had been created by a scientist in the Caucus mountains that would be sweet
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link
yakub smirnoff
― salthigh, Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link
imo five-percenter stuff doesn't have to be believed literally to be useful
a helpful reminder that white people are the creation of an evil scientist is good from time to time
― mh ð, Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link
I wish I had been created by a scientist in the Caucus mountains I wish I was a ballerI wish I had a girl who looked goodI would call her
― ¶ (DJP), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link
I don't understand anything you guys are on about anymore. Go back to AB again.â âââ (Moka), Thursday, October 20, 2016 4:30 PM (forty-one seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post
I fear for the 85 who ain't got a clue
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link
Lol @ skee lo
i dunno man i feel pretty stoked that i was created by an ancient scientist to rule the world by trickery and deceit
― *-* (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link
5%-er bullshit is just as funny as kabbalah bullshit, or people who are super deep into Norse paganism, or any of the rest of it. To me, it's no different (and no less sad) than if somebody told me with a straight face that they were a Jedi. That said, "tricknology" is one of my favorite words ever.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (čŠĪčĻģäūŪčūą), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link
can we get a wu tang/30 odd foot of grunts collabo?
― *-* (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link
Just a reminder that Russell Crowe is also 'crazy' and once plead guilty to second degree assault. Hardly 'civilized' behaviour either. It sounds like he got his shit together, though, which Azealia Banks also needs to do.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link
Maybe Crowe was actually filming a new episode of fightin roun the world?
― âââ (Moka), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link
thx for the reminder
― Treeship, Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link
I keep seeing this thread title and thinking it's going to be about Azalia Snail.â Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, June 15, 2012 11:24 AM (four years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
â Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, June 15, 2012 11:24 AM (four years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I was about to post this and then I thought "I wonder if I have posted this in this thread before" and indeed I have.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 20 October 2016 22:01 (seven years ago) link
RZA is "slightly racist"? Good grief, Moka, the mess you made here... Smdh
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 20 October 2016 22:03 (seven years ago) link
if you think moka is wrong to object to five percenter ideology just disagree with her like a human being. the moralistic condescension thing is getting pretty old around here.
― Treeship, Thursday, 20 October 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link
there there
― *-* (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 20 October 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link
Sorry for bringing RZA into this thread and making a mess out of it. You asked me why I thought he was a little excentric and there I said it and suddenly this becomes a race and religion thread and that's just a fucking bore... let's move on and sorry about that... next time just ignore me. I actually think RZA is very intelligent and didn't meant to say that I find him a tad crazy as a racial slur neither was I trying to dumb him down. Relax.
― âââ (Moka), Thursday, 20 October 2016 22:20 (seven years ago) link
Going back to Azealia Banks: I was on her facebook page just an hour ago and she posted first that Crowe spit on her and a second post that said 'spitting is not self defense' but erased them. I guess she wont back down.
― âââ (Moka), Thursday, 20 October 2016 22:34 (seven years ago) link
â Treeship, Friday, October 21, 2016 12:11 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think its not only fair but a downright necessity to call out anyone who claims "reverse racism" exists. It doesn't. There is no such thing. That's not "moralistic condescension", something you seem to be fed up with. Which is very convenient for you, guessing you are white, to get tired of. But "reverse racism" is actually a dangerous myth affecting actual non-white *human beings* in their every day lives that should not be perpetuated, or worse, be propagated casually like on this thead.
I value Moka as a poster and a person, and truly believe she did not intend to cause harm. She apologized as well, and that's end of story as far as I'm concerned. But if you perceive calling someone out on reverse racism bullshit as "moralistic condescension", that is on you.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 20 October 2016 23:02 (seven years ago) link
you could have said that instead of "the mess you've made here... Smdh."
― Treeship, Thursday, 20 October 2016 23:10 (seven years ago) link
Yeah well I'm far from perfect and seemingly needed your remark to be able to state what I meant.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 20 October 2016 23:14 (seven years ago) link
Importantly, RZA does not know the difference between 'rationale' and 'rationality'; this calls everything into question
― I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Thursday, 20 October 2016 23:17 (seven years ago) link
Guys I don't want to be the one who sparked a fight please stop :(
― âââ (Moka), Thursday, 20 October 2016 23:56 (seven years ago) link
Also thanks Treeship! Look guys maybe I'm wrong or not seeing the full picture at thinking the 5% thing is kind of wack maybe it's not but if you don't explain me why and just make fun of me then I end up scratching my head without knowing what ignorant shit i just said.
― âââ (Moka), Friday, 21 October 2016 00:02 (seven years ago) link
Anyhoo deeply sorry and meant no harm, next time just ignore me or school me and please dont fight with one a other.
― âââ (Moka), Friday, 21 October 2016 00:06 (seven years ago) link