pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

It's a fucking awful review

I'm assuming the cover art images for the reviews have recently gotten huge on desktop for everyone else too? But they're not using high res images so it looks terrible.

xp to self The way it wrangles in The Doors is completely senseless, it doesn't seem to understand what's going on musically at almost any point and it spends its second half trying to ascertain just how *kitsch* and *self-aware* the album is like this is pomo class 101 or something, with every piece of art reduced to how neatly it fits Pitchfork's ridiculous kitsch/self-aware house dichotomy and ignored on the grounds of, like, composition, musicianship, emotional intensity etc. I mean, a BNM is cool and all but come the crunch, you gave the review to the intern?

looks like they're starting to phase out track reviews? i see only 4 or 5 posted from this week so far, whereas there used to be 8 or 9 per day.

Good. those track reviews were always so confusing and pointless. even more shoehorning and spinning than the album reviews

you do realize the review was written by a senior editor and not "the intern"

like, I don't care if the review was 1000 words, 999 of which were actually a digression to endorse Donald Trump, that'd still be unnecessary and insulting

you do realize the review was written by a senior editor and not "the intern"

that it was written by a senior editor makes the review even sadder

hahaha god

not as sad as failing to read someone's title, which is right on the fucking page)

er, missing parenthetical should be (but that'd require actually engaging in good faith)

fwiw I did read it. I also know what a waltz is.

not as sad as failing to read someone's title, which is right on the fucking page)

― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, October 20, 2016 12:40 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh come on

i take back the bit about it being written by an intern. i proffer instead the view that at least one of pitchfork's senior editors writes like an intern

the review's emphasis on how self-aware the artist is is embarrassing, it's basically insulting to artists in general by implying that it's unusual for an artist to be aware of the tropes/styles/aesthetic frameworks they operate in

xpost

lmao

Katherine, how do you expect this argument to play out, honestly?

Louis: "This review is bad."

Katherine: "Um, it was written by a senior editor at Pitchfork Media."

Louis: "My mistake, it is in fact very good."

That wasn't really her point though, as far as I can tell. Just that it wasn't actually written by an intern.

my point is "if you're going to publicly mock writers and/or their work, you should at least get your facts straight," and also "maybe don't refer to senior editors as 'the intern,' especially if they're women"

Um, a lot of his favorite art films pass the Bechdel test, remember?

Whiney, how do you expect this argument to play out, honestly? :)

ideally without me reading the review or learning what "weyes blood" sounds like

you'd like the record i feel. it's good

cool, you got anything i can read on it?

also, to clarify, katherine, yes I see how louis is using coded misogynist language, but i just think it's fun to pop in here and be a dick

referring to a female senior editor as 'the intern' strikes me as less of an antifeminist dickmove than halfheartedly giving one of the greatest albums of the 21st century so far an 8.3 and a trite let's-make-loads-of-shitty-comparisons review when had it been made by a man, say mark kozelek, who is maybe 1/60 as interesting as weyes blood, the review would have been fucking oceans of existential rapture. idk though it's all subjective isn't it

xp whiney, you have finally crafted your platonic ideal post; please contact the tattoo parlor asap
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referring to a female senior editor as 'the intern' strikes me as less of an antifeminist dickmove than halfheartedly giving one of the greatest albums of the 21st century so far an 8.3

https://67.media.tumblr.com/7e87f06fd6f49e15b90e24bb725b929d/tumblr_nwi2h92tYt1uj1zxso1_400.gif

Louis, heads up, your weird obsession with RYM ratings and Pitchfork scores is really more appropriate for /mu/ and Reddit and Fantano YouTube comments and other places where — COINCIDENCE?!?! — is also more acceptable to make antifeminist dickmoves.

referring to a female senior editor as 'the intern' strikes me as less of an antifeminist dickmove than halfheartedly giving one of the greatest albums of the 21st century so far an 8.3 and a trite let's-make-loads-of-shitty-comparisons review when had it been made by a man, say mark kozelek, who is maybe 1/60 as interesting as weyes blood, the review would have been fucking oceans of existential rapture. idk though it's all subjective isn't it

― imago, Thursday, October 20, 2016 11:07 AM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nice bait and switch here by the big man

those places are full of actual mouthbreathing morons though so I don't post there

i can see why it was a problematic statement and i feel a bit bad for saying it but i really was just commenting on the ineptitude of the writing. i didn't even consider the gender of the writer. perhaps i should have. sorry.

intern lives matter

and fwiw i think that more music journalism should be by women, poc and other non-hegemonic identities, but that won't stop me from calling out shitty music journalism if it directly misconstrues the work of artists i like, no matter who wrote it

and fwiw i think that more music journalism should be by women, poc and other non-hegemonic identities, but that won't stop me from calling women "the intern"

― imago, Thursday, October 20, 2016 2:41 PM (forty-one seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're a pest, whiney, a pest

from here to internity

guys this is the thread for complaining about Pfork not rehashing pointless beefs

lol

looks like this thread has taken a 'tern for the worse

so I heard weyes blood in a movie theater the other day

you know what's a cool film is Wise Blood

this part kinda puzzled me:

"Or look to the album’s cover. The scene—a river winding through a dystopian landscape..."

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2396628571_10.jpg

i don't know, whiney, this sounds made for you:

"On “Generation Why,” arguably the album’s centerpiece, she actually sings the letters “YOLO” with more thoughtful care than the phrase ever deserved."

haha totes trolling whiney

lol

it really is a *terrific* album, though

"Or look to the album’s cover. The scene—a river winding through a dystopian landscape..."

lol what a hellscape

Someone should get her out of there before the tide rises!

not to worry

she'll touch upon the california drought in her next record

Ha, guess what they are playing in Rough Trade right now