letz talk abt gucci mane

this stuff all seems competent but its not really for me any more

the "out the zoo" beat is pretty sick but the rapping doesn't do anything for me

his stuff all seems competent but its not really for me any more

How come?

other people like him now

People have always liked him cornballs in the press are just super late

I'd say it's a mix of stiffer rap style and boilerplate lyrics and just a general sensation that he's not really pushing himself

= the wrong people like him now. I get that you prefer the 07-09 run, I do too. But the boilerplate lyrics accusation has been around forever, and given that he has been out for just a few months and have dropped two albums in that time, and that he sounds a lot more at home and confident and is clearly trying (and generally succeeding at) saying something about who and where he is now, speaking about his addiction and so on, I'd say he may well be pushing himself. Maybe he'll slip back into some kind of lazy default mode shortly but at the moment he's definitely trying to redefine himself. You don't have to like the direction he's going in though.

it's not what you say, it's how you say it

I agree with deej, this stuff is average as fuck, it isn't even close to his best 2011 or 2012 tracks.

But the boilerplate lyrics accusation has been around forever

yeah by people who didn't know what they were talking about lol

i've quite liked some of his guest verses this year -- black beatles and vibin in this bih come to mind immediately -- but i agree with deej that his solo tracks have been pretty stiff

"The wrong people like him" is a reliable sign sure I like to think of them as negative indicators

I can't even argue with that, lol. I still enjoy this album though.

I think his verses are as good as they've been in years; it's the hooks that seem a little tired to me. Small quibble though. I'm just enjoying hearing him enjoy rapping again.

I like his bit in "Black Beatles."

black beatles, step it up, champions, prolly, guwop home all p.good recent stuff

His voice just sounds like a different rapper to me now.

That's mostly because he's sober, perhaps?

Anyway, falling out of love with someone is never pretty but it can't be helped I guess. Woptober is still one of my favorite albums this year and Everybody's Looking has its gems too.

i wouldn't go as far as 'favorite albums this year' but i gave woptober a good listen & its def an improvement over everybody's looking

Projected 17-20k

http://images.pigeonsandplanes.com/complex/image/upload/c_limit,w_1030/uqrlpnnybw3u3aa8q8nu.png

“Last night, me and Future met up in Atlanta," Gucci Mane told Miss Info. "We ditched our entourages, we didn’t book my usual studio, or his usual studio… It’s like we knew we wanted to fly under the radar. There was like this positive competition in the room. I’d hear him go in on a verse, and I knew I had to step up.”​

Explaining his chemistry with Future, Gucci continues, “He would say the same back, and we knocked out 6 songs so crazy that I knew we couldn’t just sit on it. We talked about recording some more, adding more songs. But I didn’t want to over think it or over plan things. Even Future didn’t think we were dropping this tonight. This is the freshest it can get. These joints ain’t even 24 hours old. That’s like bringing you in the studio with us.”

lol same ol gwop

This is bad

yea not into it

http://www.npr.org/2016/12/06/504593590/gucci-mane-tiny-desk-concert

Gucci doing 3 songs live accompanied by Zaytoven on piano by the NPR tiny desk

I don't understand why it sounds like this. Is he rapping over guide vocals? Is he rapping at all?

? it sounds normal to me

I guess I must've been thrown by the delay on his vocals or something. The whole thing just sounded overdubbed and weird to me.

watched the "first day out" performance and found it a little lifeless but it's a cool idea i guess

he was def rapping over his own vocals some, standard practice these days, the piano/minimal beats were p cool imo

You can def hear him over the backing track, cuz he did his own radio edits lol

i thought the performance was great, i mean it's a tiny desk perf what more are you looking for

more banjo and glockenspiel tbh

this has been true for a long time, but online culture often celebrates ~the idea~ of a rapper more than the actual rapper, and this seems like a peak example of that

that's kind of been the whole thing since he got out of jail tbh

East Atlanta Santa is way better than anything he's released since getting out. His best bars in years, and he seems to have pushed his producers, too.

good int
https://twitter.com/HQonESPN/status/817487936241307648

his verse on the new big boi song feels vintage to me... suwoo bentley and the forgies suwoo too / and i know two jews eat a case like it's fast food

& considering that he raps about mapquesting to your house, the verse might actually be like 10 years old

well his delivery is today's.

good song

Zaytoven is an inspiration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkHyL8Zxkno

I read the book, btw. It was a bit short for a guy who has released so much music and has been part of so much, but on the whole it was nice enough. Turns out that big pot belly before he went in was... constipation. Ugh.

i looked up yung pinch, brutal, post malone has a wave

yeah that was a real anticlimax to the Zaytoven video

big time

yung pinch has such a terrible rapper voice

6dogs is the next big white ironic rapper getting a push

lmao yung pinch is terrible

https://www.thefader.com/2017/10/12/gucci-mane-malcolm-gladwell-full-interview/

not really a bombshell interview but amusing enough

"Gucci Mane Biopic in the Works"

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/gucci-mane-biopic-paramount-players-1202693921/

Paramount Players and Imagine Entertainment have launched development of a biopic on musician Gucci Mane based on his “The Autobiography of Gucci Mane.”

The studio has obtained life rights to Mane, whose real name is Radric Delantic Davis, and movie rights to the book. Imagine’s Brian Grazer and Erica Huggins will produce the project. Mane and Todd Moskowitz will executive produce.

Mane is a pioneer of the hip-hop genre known as trap music. He made his studio album debut in 2005 with “Trap House,” the first of a dozen studio albums, followed by “Hard to Kill.”

The book tells of his childhood in poverty in Alabama and his move to Atlanta, where he became involved in criminal activity. He spent nearly three years in prison starting in 2004 after pleading guilty to possession of a firearm by a convicted felon. While incarcerated, he began releasing mixtapes from prison with rappers Migos and Young Thug.

also lol @: "UTA repped Mane in the deal."

I still listen “Lemonade” constantly, 13 years later or whatever it is

Cool his career seems better than ever? Cool and surprising. The new stuff doesn’t do it for me though.

Burr!