should i give the grateful dead a chance?

Except for that high pitched tone that pans across the stereo landscape

That can be relaxing under certain conditions.

I wonder if people with poor hearing notice it all; also what effect does any does it have on animals?

this article suggests that weird sound might represent "the song of the saw-whet owl" -- http://artsites.ucsc.edu/GDead/agdl/chain.html

Here's a variety of saw-whet owl sounds. Nothing that sounds like tinkling, sadly. In my experience, the "annotated grateful dead" site has some very random and sometimes incorrect annotations in it. I don't know what Dodd's criteria for inclusion are or how carefully he vets entries.

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Northern_Saw-whet_Owl/sounds

haha, yeah. but it's usually a pretty entertaining site.

Yeah, it's got some entertainment value. I used to read it frequently before he put out the book. Was disappointed when the book came out and it was just a printed version of the website.

Anyway, Unbroken Chain rules.

i dunno. it's got some really cool parts. one spot even sounds like drum n bass or stereolab for a second. but the basic song is kind of unimpressive. too math rock, too noodly. the high synth is eh, i wayyyyy prefer Hawkwind for that kind of thing.

i kinda like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzcOtukqoo8

"Loose Lucy" is some southern fried glam. T-Rex via The Allman Brothers.

Never liked that one. Too loose

Govt Mule/Allman Bros/Phil & Friends' Warren Hayes has also played with the Dead, and this summer he did some of their songs in concerts w symphony orchestras. He comments on several faves here, where we also get videos of GD versions (live & studio):
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/warren-haynes-on-5-grateful-dead-classics-w442312/blues-for-allah-w442318

Take it to the warren Hayes thread

why, when the performances are all Dead

Because warren Hayes is a tool?

he's not that bad, he can definitely shred.

Almanac/calendar's out now:

http://www.dead.net/almanac/img/grateful-dead-2017-calendar-almanac-1200x1200.jpg?a

Whole thing's here, I think, though haven't read it all:

http://www.dead.net/almanac/?cmpid=dn/2016November17/GratefulDeadAlm-main-image-1&eml=2016November17/3805321/6131962&etsubid=33554028

Cool interview with Lesh: short but sweet, intriguing bits and dig his fave memory of Garcia (also a fairly recent flashback):
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/the-last-word-phil-lesh-on-jerry-garcia-memories-sci-fi-w434812

Aw,that's a sweet memory to share.

the remaster of live/dead doesn't sound so good does it

This is great:

"My favorite memory was Lew Welch's line in one of his poems. He was describing looking in the mirror in the morning: "I don't know who you are, but I'm going to shave you anyway."

live/dead always sounded kind of muddy to me

i'm gonna end up posting on the steve hoffman forums aren't i

i think the original has a lot more detail

what about the soundstage

what kinda bloom are we talking about

you tell us dude

what kinda bloom are we talking about

― Forty Watson & the Jute Gute (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ)

molly

the 4 hour documentary is screening here in a month. psyched, i only started listening to the dead in the last 9 months or so, i've only heard anthem of the sun thru europe '72. i heard about it thru this tweet @0PN
the crowd ERUPTED during the Wall of Sound section of the dead doc. At the mere sight of a homebaked PA system. it was beautiful

hofheinz pavilion 'playing in the band' next

https://archive.org/details/gd72-11-18.set2-sbd.cotsman.9002.sbeok.shnf

Saw Long Strange Trip tonight. I'm a little more than a fan, much less than an obsessive--bought the Skeletons compilation in high school, then everything up to Europe in fits and starts over the next three decades. I didn't think they needed four hours here. The structure is loose--Altamont isn't mentioned until past the halfway mark, and I don't think Live Dead is mentioned at all ("Dark Star," yes, near the end and very humorously). I was oblivious to the extent of Garcia's heroin habit--not sure if I even knew about it at all. The funniest bit in the film for me was the British road manager describing a key difference in the psyche of Americans and the English.

question. it's widely accepted that outside of ccr, the dead were the kings of choogle. when would you say the dead first started to choogle?

Somewhat ashamed that someone as lame as al Franken introduced me to it in that documentary, but "Althea" is a great doom-filled dirge

"There's mosquitos on the river...
Did you hear what I just heard?"

Probably not, Bob. Probably not.

"Unbroken Chain" came up on recent Discover Weekly playlist. I have to admit it's a lovely tune

I got a copy of 1974-05-21 (Edmundson Pavillion, U of Washington) recently. I was pretty impressed by it, as someone who has enjoyed various things but never been a dedicated fan. V cool 46m version of "Playin' in the Band".

https://archive.org/details/gd72-08-21.sbd.hamilton.150.sbeok.shnf#

^^ this Dark Star seems appropriate for this afternoon. 45 years ago to the day. it's a good one

haha yes!

thank u

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/q81/p480x480/20914647_1706287166051240_4262034767493178114_n.jpg?oh=e14cc9debd4f73686a9d0d0ae241e312&oe=5A264EBA

fucking weirdo

is this somewhere in golden gate park?

looks like a pipe in his right hand but it's just a phone and his credit cards

Saw Long Strange Trip finally. Definitely had some problems with it, considering it was a 4+hr comprehensive doc but enjoyed it nonetheless. Easily my favorite moment was Steve Parish talking about how nobody was really in charge of anything ... "The situation is the boss, man!" Also found the last interview bit from Garcia talking about Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein incredibly touching.

just finished it.. warts and all i prob could've watched four hours just on the Mother McCree era through that '74 ('75?) hiatus. Garcia's such a great interview - esp when considering his prodigious heroin habit.

i sorta regret not trying harder to see them on that last tour, which really would have been the only one i was old enough to make. i was really more of a casual fan at the time and frankly it sounds like it might have been kind of a bummer at that point. my brief stint at Ole Miss was contaminated with "Touch Heads" (or their little brothers) so it took me a while to separate the band/music from that later period fan base. that said, i would definitely watch a deeper plunge into the deadhead culture.

I enjoyed the doc, but it was weird spending 4 hours immersed in band lore and not hear the name Tom Constanten once. They did a good job avoiding him in concert footage too. I'm not a serious devotee, so I didn't know he was... persona non grata or whatever.

Yeah good point. Maybe he didn't fit or suppprt a narrative they were trying to convey? I feel like he's always been a walking, talking former band member who no one really paid attn to, for whatev reason. He's still alive right?

according to wikipedia:

Several band members and employees felt that he did not fit in with the Dead ethos despite his longstanding friendships with Lesh and Garcia; for example, he was a member of the Church of Scientology throughout his tenure with the band and thus declined to become re-involved with LSD and other drugs.[6][7] According to band manager Rock Scully, "He was sooo different. You know, he was like a crew cut. He was like a marine in a prison camp full of Japanese. He was like our boss in a way. Nobody could go for the hard wire technology of his brain power. I was told I was too hard on him, too. But I had no beef."[8]

Echoing Scully's sentiments, drummer Bill Kreutzmann noted in his 2015 memoir that he "got along really well" with Constanten and "thought he was a cool enough guy"; however, he felt that "Constanten had this thing where, for whatever reason, he would perform at rehearsals pretty darn well, but then, when we'd be in front of an audience, it was like he froze or something. He couldn't let go... He couldn't trust the music to lead... If you can't do that, you can't be in the band." Although Kreutzmann "felt no animosity" toward Constanten upon his departure, he did not consider him to be a "card-carrying member of the Grateful Dead."[9]

In 2012, he recovered from a heart attack.[18] On August 16, 2016, Constanten reported on Facebook that he was in the hospital with a broken neck, after slipping and falling on wet cement on August 10, while walking to the post office from his car in a heavy rain.[19]

He was only in for a year anyway, though it might have been an important year, 1969. He started at the end of November 68 and left at the end fo January 70.

I thought what I'd heard of him live with the band was pretty ok. Didn't think it was the reined in.