should i give the grateful dead a chance?

yah get Wake The Flood

Live Dead

oh wait u said studio

The debut is a fun Garage Rock album.

...and, y'know, actually better than a lot of 'Legendary Garage Albums'.

Yeah it's pretty solid.

Blues For Allah is very different from AB & Aoxomoxoa, and for me it runs out of gas, but man the studio Franklin's/Help was SUCH a treat the first time I heard it. Like I remember where I was the first time I heard it (in a cab heading to the Newark airport, with headphones on) and the feeling of how it sounded...it's got its ups and downs and is not the equal of the ones you already have, but I'd go with that

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/Grateful_Dead_-_From_the_Mars_Hotel.jpg

listened to From the Mars Hotel for the first time tonight. as usual i like about every other song and there are some downright stinkers ("Money Money"). "China Doll" "Unbroken Chain" and "Ship of Fools" are all atmospheric and slightly trippy, but "U.S. Blues" is the most rockin' uptempo thing on here. they are best when they aren't complicating things too much and just doing a southern rock groove.

"U.S. Blues" is a fun song. makes me think of the Turtles a little. and it has Gerry Garcia saying he's going to steal your wife.

Jerry

Unbroken Chain is so relaxed

Except for that high pitched tone that pans across the stereo landscape

That can be relaxing under certain conditions.

I wonder if people with poor hearing notice it all; also what effect does any does it have on animals?

this article suggests that weird sound might represent "the song of the saw-whet owl" -- http://artsites.ucsc.edu/GDead/agdl/chain.html

Here's a variety of saw-whet owl sounds. Nothing that sounds like tinkling, sadly. In my experience, the "annotated grateful dead" site has some very random and sometimes incorrect annotations in it. I don't know what Dodd's criteria for inclusion are or how carefully he vets entries.

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Northern_Saw-whet_Owl/sounds

haha, yeah. but it's usually a pretty entertaining site.

Yeah, it's got some entertainment value. I used to read it frequently before he put out the book. Was disappointed when the book came out and it was just a printed version of the website.

Anyway, Unbroken Chain rules.

i dunno. it's got some really cool parts. one spot even sounds like drum n bass or stereolab for a second. but the basic song is kind of unimpressive. too math rock, too noodly. the high synth is eh, i wayyyyy prefer Hawkwind for that kind of thing.

i kinda like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzcOtukqoo8

"Loose Lucy" is some southern fried glam. T-Rex via The Allman Brothers.

Never liked that one. Too loose

Govt Mule/Allman Bros/Phil & Friends' Warren Hayes has also played with the Dead, and this summer he did some of their songs in concerts w symphony orchestras. He comments on several faves here, where we also get videos of GD versions (live & studio):
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/warren-haynes-on-5-grateful-dead-classics-w442312/blues-for-allah-w442318

Take it to the warren Hayes thread

why, when the performances are all Dead

Because warren Hayes is a tool?

he's not that bad, he can definitely shred.

Almanac/calendar's out now:

http://www.dead.net/almanac/img/grateful-dead-2017-calendar-almanac-1200x1200.jpg?a

Whole thing's here, I think, though haven't read it all:

http://www.dead.net/almanac/?cmpid=dn/2016November17/GratefulDeadAlm-main-image-1&eml=2016November17/3805321/6131962&etsubid=33554028

Cool interview with Lesh: short but sweet, intriguing bits and dig his fave memory of Garcia (also a fairly recent flashback):
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/the-last-word-phil-lesh-on-jerry-garcia-memories-sci-fi-w434812

Aw,that's a sweet memory to share.

the remaster of live/dead doesn't sound so good does it

This is great:

"My favorite memory was Lew Welch's line in one of his poems. He was describing looking in the mirror in the morning: "I don't know who you are, but I'm going to shave you anyway."

live/dead always sounded kind of muddy to me

i'm gonna end up posting on the steve hoffman forums aren't i

i think the original has a lot more detail

what about the soundstage

what kinda bloom are we talking about

you tell us dude

what kinda bloom are we talking about

― Forty Watson & the Jute Gute (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ)

molly

the 4 hour documentary is screening here in a month. psyched, i only started listening to the dead in the last 9 months or so, i've only heard anthem of the sun thru europe '72. i heard about it thru this tweet @0PN
the crowd ERUPTED during the Wall of Sound section of the dead doc. At the mere sight of a homebaked PA system. it was beautiful

hofheinz pavilion 'playing in the band' next

https://archive.org/details/gd72-11-18.set2-sbd.cotsman.9002.sbeok.shnf

Saw Long Strange Trip tonight. I'm a little more than a fan, much less than an obsessive--bought the Skeletons compilation in high school, then everything up to Europe in fits and starts over the next three decades. I didn't think they needed four hours here. The structure is loose--Altamont isn't mentioned until past the halfway mark, and I don't think Live Dead is mentioned at all ("Dark Star," yes, near the end and very humorously). I was oblivious to the extent of Garcia's heroin habit--not sure if I even knew about it at all. The funniest bit in the film for me was the British road manager describing a key difference in the psyche of Americans and the English.

question. it's widely accepted that outside of ccr, the dead were the kings of choogle. when would you say the dead first started to choogle?

Somewhat ashamed that someone as lame as al Franken introduced me to it in that documentary, but "Althea" is a great doom-filled dirge

"There's mosquitos on the river...
Did you hear what I just heard?"

Probably not, Bob. Probably not.

"Unbroken Chain" came up on recent Discover Weekly playlist. I have to admit it's a lovely tune

I got a copy of 1974-05-21 (Edmundson Pavillion, U of Washington) recently. I was pretty impressed by it, as someone who has enjoyed various things but never been a dedicated fan. V cool 46m version of "Playin' in the Band".

https://archive.org/details/gd72-08-21.sbd.hamilton.150.sbeok.shnf#

^^ this Dark Star seems appropriate for this afternoon. 45 years ago to the day. it's a good one

haha yes!