Best album on Mixmag & Muzik's Best Albums of 1995?

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Yeah, despite the awful title that T-Power album is maybe the finest example of those early album-length statements by jungle producers: certainly better than Timeless, and arguably as good as Black Secret Technology. IMO it's particularly good in mixing ambient house and drum & bass in a way few people have managed to do successfully ever since.

(T-Power's 1998 follow-up album, OTOH, was a horrible affair, lifeless and cold and uninspired.)

Tuomas, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 11:08 (seven years ago) link

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Tuomas, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 11:09 (seven years ago) link

Despite seeing myself as an underground house and techno snob at the time (I was 18 or 19 so I'll cut myself some slack) I loved that BT album, in all its pompous grandiosity. Just gave it a blast on Spotify while cleaning the loft out and a lot of it is still quite fun.

This was the summer before I left for university and finally discovered ecstasy so there's that too.

ewar woowar (or something), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 12:02 (seven years ago) link

Some good UK techno here too. black dog, dave angel, the advent

ewar woowar (or something), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 12:03 (seven years ago) link

I had that dave angel CD but seem to have lost it unfortunately. It came with a sticker. It was really good and I would have liked to have played it again.

xp

yeah the BT album was a lot of fun and I put my cd on earlier this year and still enjoyed it.
I think I still like the albums on the 2 lists that I bought at the time.
Mixmag was also decent at the time until they started doing all the ibiza drug specials akin to mojo and the beatles. I have loads still up the loft of 90s mixmag and muziks I think.

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 12:55 (seven years ago) link

Only Built 4 Cuban Linx by miles for me, fucking sick album!

calzino, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 13:05 (seven years ago) link

Babyloop was great though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSPOv6bqIRM

groovypanda, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 13:09 (seven years ago) link

The T-Power album is CAD$1 or more on Bandcamp along with a lot of his other stuff if you need to refresh your memory. Minus the hidden CD tracks though. I dug it at the time... Always remembered Spanners as a 1994 release but apparently it came out in January '95. It was delayed lots wasn't it.

Isn't BST a holy text around here? Today it would be my pick.

Noel Emits, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 13:38 (seven years ago) link

In fact I played it earlier as I just got the '08 remaster.

Noel Emits, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 13:40 (seven years ago) link

My copy from '95 was a particularly bad pressing, very very quiet. It had good reviews but I think it felt a bit under the radar at the time. I don't remember big press attention maybe the odd half page ad. I wasn't listening to deejays playing DnB at this time so can't really comment on it's club or radio exposure but my guess it wasn't huge.

mmmm, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 14:04 (seven years ago) link

I voted for The Black Dog.

chap, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link

sound patrol, but just for that one amazing track

saer, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link

Incarcerated Scarfaces still gives me a rush, just like the first time I heard it.

calzino, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 14:33 (seven years ago) link

remember these lists at the time but never managed to hear anything of these 4 (that I'm aware of):

The Advent
Vanessa Daou
Eric Kupper
As One

nashwan, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 14:39 (seven years ago) link

"But yo, guess who's the black Trump?"

Raekwon had some fucked up role models unfortunately :p

calzino, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link

nashwan I dont know those 4 either

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 15:09 (seven years ago) link

The Advent were acid techno guys, a bit Hardfloor-esque IIRC, got some play on Peel

Neil S, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 15:25 (seven years ago) link

Vanessa Dauo and Erik Kupper are both deep house / song based. Pretty inoffensive. I remember liking the Vanessa Dauo. Seems like some big name house producer did the music.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 15:31 (seven years ago) link

Love that Vanessa Daou. Peter Daou produced it and he worked with Danny Tenaglia I seem to remember. Deep house vibes with sleezy erotic lyrics..

mmmm, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link

I only recently picked up Advent's Elements, a bit long as a double CD/triple album but decent.

mmmm, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 16:05 (seven years ago) link

While everyone's busy in the other thread posting the entirety of rateyourmusic.com's all-time Top 5000 five LP's at a time, I've been relaxing with Timeless and it still sounds fantastic. 'State of Mind' is really hitting the spot right now, and the epic title track is still a trip. So yeah, Timeless is getting my vote.

pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link

What thread is that?

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link

sound patrol, but just for that one amazing track
― saer, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 14:23 (five hours ago) Permalink

I don't think I ever checked this album but I had a 12" with An Open Secret (the one that samples Ain't Nobody) and I played it a lot

ewar woowar (or something), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link

The Advent were acid techno guys, a bit Hardfloor-esque IIRC, got some play on Peel

Nah, not acid techno. More straight up clanging techno/electro a la Dave Clark, Surgeon etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehHiL-76zzM

groovypanda, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link

"ikiru" off the As One album is really beautiful

brimstead, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 19:52 (seven years ago) link

The Advent is just one guy, former CJ Bolland collaborator Cisco Ferreira, right? And yeah, Groovypanda is right, it's straight banging techno, not Hardfloor-esque acid. I used to have that album back in the day, but sold it away because it was a bit too blunt for my tastes.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 19:52 (seven years ago) link

Nah it's him and Colin McBean aka Mr G

ewar woowar (or something), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 19:54 (seven years ago) link

*was* them, just him now. Mr G has had a bit of a renaissance on his own

ewar woowar (or something), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 20:03 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWhoDbyS6Nk

brimstead, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I've got the double vinyl. Not an album I really listened to as an 'album' but great for DJing.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link

I guess I really should check out Timeless.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link

I cant find my doublr cd of timeless. hope i havent lost it

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, you should! Just make sure it's the only Goldie album you ever hear!

pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link

RONG, you gotta check out the Rufuge Krew comp too

brimstead, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:16 (seven years ago) link

The album stands up equally as well in its single CD configuration as it does in the double CD version, too.

pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link

what is the difference?

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:15 (seven years ago) link

Seeing the ones I don't recognize and wondering what the hell they were is more entertaining than trying to pick a favorite

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:22 (seven years ago) link

xp most of disc 2 is not on the single disc version, iirc

brimstead, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:29 (seven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 6 October 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

Looking a the lists, surprised BT didn't make the Mixmag one.

There were Muzik's other choices that year:

1995 - Singles of the Year

1. Josh Wink - Higher State Of Consciousness
2. T Power Versus Mk Ultra - Mutant Jazz
3. Misjah & Tim - Access
4. Faithless - Salva Mea
5. Alex Reece - Pulp Fiction
6. The Bucketheads - The Bomb
7. Method Man & Mary J Blige - You're All I Need
8. BT Featuring Vincent Covello - Loving You More
9. Dave Clarke - Red 3 (Of 3)
10. Urban Blues Project - Deliver Me
11. Plug 2 - Rebuilt Kev
12. Man With No Name - Floor Essence
13. PFM - The Western
14. Size 9 - I'm Ready
15. Green Velvet - Flash
16. Glenn Undeground - Beyond
17. D'Angelo - Brown Sugar
18. Ruffneck - Everybody Be Somebody
19. Ghost Dancer - Martians
20. Daft Punk - Da Funk
21. Jeff Mills - The Purpose Maker
22. Pizzaman - Trippin' On Sunshine
23. Francois Kervorkian - FK
24. The Pharcyde - Running
25. Indica - Labia

Muzik 1995 - Remixes of the Year

1. Jodeci - Feenin' (LTJ Bukem Remix)
2. De'Lacy - Hideaway (Deep Dish Remix)
3. Method Man - Release Yo' Delf (Prodigy Remix)
4. Espiritu - Always Something There (Tin Tin Out Remix)
5. Sade - Cherish The Day (Hani Remix)
6. System 7 - Alpha Waves (Richie Hawtin Remix)
7. Jamiroquai - Space Cowboy (David Morales Remix)
8. Scarface - I've Seen A Man Cry (4 Hero Remix)
9. Red Snapper - Hot Flush (Sabres Of Paradise Remix)
10. Rhythim Is Rhythim - Strings Of Life (Ashley Beedle Remix)

Muzik 1995 - Compilations of the Year

1. Penetrate Deeper (mixed by Deep Dish)
2. Coldcut: Journeys By DJ
3. Jazz In The House
4. Trade Volume 1 (mixed by Tony De Vit)
5. Freezone 2
6. Classic Hip Hop Volume 1
7. Perfecto: Perfection
8. Tresor Volume 3
9. AWOL Live At The Ministry
10. Artcore

groovypanda, Thursday, 6 October 2016 09:09 (seven years ago) link

Muzik was my bible, a new issue was the highlight of my month.

ewar woowar (or something), Thursday, 6 October 2016 10:10 (seven years ago) link

Glenn Underground - Beyond 👍

ewar woowar (or something), Thursday, 6 October 2016 10:11 (seven years ago) link

boringly but unquestionably Maxinquaye

nashwan, Thursday, 6 October 2016 10:29 (seven years ago) link

It's a great tune, but I was a bit disappointed when I found out what a straightforward reworking of Herb Alpert's "Beyond" it is... It doesn't even tweak the original in clever ways like "The Bomb" does to "Street Player", it's pretty much just a house cover version. And the sleeve still claims it was written by Glenn Underground. (Possibly because he didn't get the clearance for the original tune?)

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Tuomas, Thursday, 6 October 2016 10:33 (seven years ago) link

I only heard Street Player for the first time yesterday, I had no idea it was that song so it raised a smile.

Voted for Cuban Linx, Maxinquaye would be a close second. Strange that Liquid Swords didn't make either list (released too late in the year maybe?).

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 6 October 2016 11:20 (seven years ago) link

many xps thanks for correcting my Advent knowledge, my mid-90s second division techno memory is obviously lacking!

Neil S, Thursday, 6 October 2016 11:26 (seven years ago) link

Another big omission from these lists is Model 500's 'Deep Space' LP.

nashwan, Thursday, 6 October 2016 11:41 (seven years ago) link

gave up looking for my double cd of timeless. I think ive lost it maybe in a loan to someone

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link

i succumbed a few months back and bought the single cd edition.
i am holding onto the hope that at some point i will chance upon the 2cd edition at a reasonable price.
that said the single cd edition is still bloody fantastic.

mark e, Thursday, 6 October 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link

re advent : i had no idea re the connection to Mr G !
i only recently picked up one of his cds that came out on REKIDS.
as for advent : not sure i have ever been able to make it all the way through both cds in one sitting, as it is rather brutal.
i seem to recall picking it up as it was on the same (sub)label as orbital ?
internal ?
same reason i picked up the salt tank mini-lp/cd, st3.

mark e, Thursday, 6 October 2016 19:36 (seven years ago) link

Joey Beltram - Places

I must listen to this.

Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Thursday, 6 October 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link

me too - only track I know from it is this hard-ass insanity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ9buUE15Fo

nashwan, Thursday, 6 October 2016 23:19 (seven years ago) link

man it seems like half the electronic (joey beltram included) i listen to i get this "the record's stuck" vibe from it

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Thursday, 6 October 2016 23:53 (seven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 7 October 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

Lol at none of the top 3 being actual electronic/dance music, I guess ILX's Americanisation is now complete.

Tuomas, Friday, 7 October 2016 09:31 (seven years ago) link

Dave Angel - Tales Of The Unexpected 0
Omni Trio - The Deepest Cut 0

aw

also aw at Joey Beltram 0 though I haven't heard "Places". also hadn't heard of Sound Patrol "Sweetened, No Lemon" but apparently it's Derrick Carter. anyone got any thoughts on either of those?

Would have liked a bit of a longer poll time to check out the As One and revisit the Towa Tei and St. Germain, which I enjoyed at the time but can't remember anything about now. so I've got some homework for the weekend, anyway

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 7 October 2016 09:41 (seven years ago) link

Lol at none of the top 3 being actual electronic/dance music, I guess ILX's Americanisation is now complete.

Why it's almost as if people prefer dance music out of the album context (which is also partly why the magazine lists included such a degree of less dancefloor-orientated stuff).

nashwan, Friday, 7 October 2016 10:01 (seven years ago) link

Carl Craig's 'Landcruising' another huge surprising omission tho

nashwan, Friday, 7 October 2016 10:05 (seven years ago) link

we can certainly see the results of "Americanisation" when 2 of the top 3 are, err, European artists

Neil S, Friday, 7 October 2016 10:12 (seven years ago) link

I didn't get around to voting but if I had I probably would have thrown The Deepest Cut a vote.

That said the top 10 based on votes is pretty unfuckwithable.

Tim F, Friday, 7 October 2016 10:50 (seven years ago) link

man it seems like half the electronic (joey beltram included) i listen to i get this "the record's stuck" vibe from it

you should talk to my dad

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 7 October 2016 11:16 (seven years ago) link

Dave Angel - Tales Of The Unexpected 0

makes me sad too

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 7 October 2016 11:41 (seven years ago) link

I could do the mixmag singles list before moving on to 1996 albums I suppose

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 7 October 2016 11:42 (seven years ago) link

Mixmag Best Singles of 1995

Muzik Best Singles of 1995

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 7 October 2016 11:46 (seven years ago) link

erm for some reason the muzik one has ended up on ILE

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 7 October 2016 11:47 (seven years ago) link

Lol at none of the top 3 being actual electronic/dance music, I guess ILX's Americanisation is now complete.

― Tuomas

that's "americanization" if you please

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Friday, 7 October 2016 12:14 (seven years ago) link

we can certainly see the results of "Americanisation" when 2 of the top 3 are, err, European artists.

What I meant was, in 1995 Americans weren't really listening to electronic club music, so those albums would not be familiar to most of them, so they'll vote for the pop and trip-hop stuff that did cross over. And American music, of course.

Tuomas, Friday, 7 October 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link

hadn't heard of Sound Patrol "Sweetened, No Lemon" but apparently it's Derrick Carter. anyone got any thoughts on either of those?

one track on this is fantastic, so much so that i have forgotten what the rest of the record is like. it has the kind of sleeve you might well pass over when looking in the record shop

saer, Friday, 7 October 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link

>>never heard of it before but voted for Pizzamania by Pizzaman

>I remember the cheesy big single from it

I get it!

Tom Violence, Saturday, 8 October 2016 03:32 (seven years ago) link

I do not remember this but I would like to think it's another early Fatboy Slim alias

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Saturday, 8 October 2016 03:36 (seven years ago) link

Yeah it is - but not fully formed Fatboy Slim. Hi-energy, vaguely latin rhythms, whistles blowing and so on makes it like a proto-Basement Jaxx at times. Pretty good album but not compared to some of the others here.

everything, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link

lol how did I guess

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link

Best album on Mixmag & Muzik's Best Albums of 1996?

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 22:05 (seven years ago) link


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