Marvel's Luke Cage

It is extremely corny, and not really "better" than either of the other shows in any meaningful way beyond timeliness

Chuck, if you couldn't get through either previous Netflix show, I honestly don't know why you'd bother. It's like asking people if this fourth Nightmare on Elm Street is the one for you when you thought the last three were shit.

i like it because i like the people in it. pretty much all the people in it.

i liked daredevil 2 more than daredevil 1. i got a little tired of the agony of kingpin in 1. and also endless flashbacks of origin stuff. i mean i know why they were there, but it seemed like a lot. also i will watch RD in anything.

i didn't watch JJ. when i read about all the trauma/ptsd stuff and i just didn't feel like watching that at the time.

also, Old Lunch on the money. it's kinda easy to figure out if you like this kinda thing.

most of the people on luke cage are way WAY better than the material. they make it better just by being there. it's certainly not essential viewing. but people who like this kinda thing will probably like it fine.

it has about 500% too much Theo Rossi

it has about 500% too much Theo Rossi

wtf

eh, he doesn't bug me. he's suitably snake-like even if he's not really that menacing. he's supposed to be really menacing.

i've been watching this right now while surfing the interweb and went through two episodes without really worrying about missing anything...

I want to like this kind of thing because I like the original comics - well, not the Bendis ones, but other writers have written these characters well. Figured this one might be worth a shot because I like Colter, and maybe they'd worked out the logy pacing issues? I guess not but I'll give it a try, again. Persistence in the face of overwhelming contrary evidence is nothing if not a comics-reading habit.

Well, I'll certainly grant you that.

The first six episodes seem like they could have been a short season. The rest is more of a continuation and exploration into Luke's origins, which kind of felt a little mismanaged but still enjoyable.

They really need to stop with the bit where Claire ends up hooking up with title characters. If the next show arc has her anything more than chummy with Iron Fist, I'm writing my complaint letters

the part where snakehead holds the city councilman hostage and plays records and tells endless stories from his childhood is pretty funny. talk about cruel and unusual punishment.

The brief appearance of '70s-style Cage was a nice touch. For the sake of an opposing viewpoint, my gf was like 'why doesn't he take that stupid thing off his head' and then turned and just kinda stared at me incredulously when he dropped the 'sweet christmas' (she's otherwise enjoying it a lot, though).

I haven't gotten to the episode with the gang starr quote yet. Highly anticipating.

sweet christmas!

Cage also dropped a "Sweet Christmas!" in Jessica Jones after he and JJ boned.

I've watched the first three eps and am loving it. Just serious enough about its characters, setting and the black experience in America; just silly enough to end an episode with the otherwise "realistic" villain firing a rocket launcher at a restaurant.

it goes much more ridiculously pulpy

Bobby's comments on Diamondback's outfit at the end have stuck with me

This series has more death-defying cliffhangers at the end of episodes than I remember there being in DD/JJ/DD2 — feels very much like an old Saturday morning cinema serial that way.

I usually skip past the credits sequence in these shows after watching it once or twice, but I've let this one run in every episode because of how striking the visuals are, especially that shot of (I think) Macombs Dam Bridge overlaid on Cage's back, looking very much like scars — a really powerful image. And I like the credits music.

I feel like the only thing we really missed, which maybe they were holding back for later or left out due to additional casting/shooting, was the "Carl Lucas gets framed and goes to jail" part of the backstory. Well, and him as an enlisted man after Carl and Willis got busted for the car joyride bit.

It's dumb but it made me feel like the parts we did see or hear about ended up being the story of the favorite son who screwed up and *skips a bunch of years* was in prison after being framed and becomes a superhero.

He enlisted and presumably grew up, then was framed! The guy who was in prison definitely wasn't a reckless teen.

Does this map to his character history as a comic character?
I just downloaded most of his history and haven't had a chance to read through it yet.

Did really enjoy the series.

Though still surprised a bic would work on him, might think the plastic holding the blade might not being the best of shape after being in contact with him anyway.
Does he just heal the hair out of the way most of the time when he hasn't just been referencing his 70s look?

Wonder how they managed to do the tattoos for the title sequence. You'd think the needle would break

Luke Cage is all about the henna, yo.

The opening credits are remarkable, not least for the kinda more metaphorical featuring of New York City written on the (a) Black body.

I am loving this show so much. One of my new fave podcasts, called "Tea with Queen and J," was complaining that a review at Blavity had called this show "The Blackest thing you'll ever see" or some clickbaity headline, and the podcasters were complaining that that is only true if you presuppose that drugs, gangs, foodstamps, and housing projects = "Blackness," which granted would be a weak point. But one thing I like is how much the show normalizes Blackness by having so few white ppl on it at all! Maybe I just didn't watch Empire so I didn't know everyone was already past this point by now but whatever, I like it.

it has about 500% too much Theo Rossi

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, October 2, 2016 11:25 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh also you is out of order, Rossi was always the cutest one on Sons of Anarachy.

Juice forevah <3

sorry but when yr character's defining characteristic is his eyewear you don't deserve 4th or 5th billing

man, I want to love this but I'm struggling to even like it. obvious, stagey, slow, with nothing even resembling tension or an arc or even an inhabited Manhattan really

it does get about 50x more entertaining the moment I realized Alfre Woodard is doing a dead on impression of Tituss Burgess in every scene

i dont mean to be pvmic but goddamn that luke cage is easy on my eyes good lord

corny & expositiony but i am into it & in for the ride

yup, the most unrealistic aspect of this show is that every character isn't throwing themselves at him in every scene

lol vg i wouldn't have put it quite that way but yeah the lead casting is excellent. also always good to see Kima Greggs working

The Defenders one is dispiriting - I'm dreading the fact that the Suicide Squad movie is going to be a big hit and usher in a new era of 'edgy' garbage complete w/ horrible Nirvana 'tributes'

― Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Friday, July 22, 2016

lol don't need to worry about this i think

bwahaha

Have they used the coffee machine running gag from the original comics? That made me laugh as a kid. I'd rather see that than the headpiece.

the last episode was really long. i honestly thought they were gonna do that thing where the people on the street help out and start fighting snakehead as luke writhes in pain. was that in a superman movie? my memory is gone.

Alfre Woodard is so good in this.

I wasn't going to spoil the later episodes over the weekend, but let me now say the the progression of Method Man appearing as himself, to appearing on Sway in the Morning in the Marvel Universe, to rapping about Luke Cage, to inspiring a groundswell of support of people wearing hoodies with bullet holes

it went a notch over the top at some point in there

Have Marvel started marketing the bullet holed hoodies for real or are they missing a market opportunity?

Probably catch on in the wake of the ripped jean thing that is still really popular at least here. & I'm assuming must be traceable back to the Ramones look.

So is Claire Temple a love interest of the comic Daredevil or is that a later development or a TV one. I just started reading hero For Hire from 72 and she's in the 2nd edition. So looks like she was with Luke Cage first anyway.

in the context of the show, she did Daredevil before Luke, as she has just come up/back to Harlem from Hell's Kitchen

Somebody further up the thread was complaining about the way that she seemed to be getting off with all the individual heroes or something to that effect. Looks like she was actually Luke's love interest in the comics way before she had anything to do with daredevil.
Actually looks like she only turned up with the character name in the Daredevil tv series because Night Nurse the character that was initially supposed to fill the role was probably going to be a character in films. So Night Nurse was replaced with Claire Temple who's in Hero For Hire from #2 onwards.

this looks v cool and fun to watch, but is it anything more than a fundamentally conservative clean-up-the-streets-and-kill-the-thugs Death Wish style fantasy?

it's about the legacy of abuse and the corrupt and unfair system that perpetuates that abuse.

also, OMG, D-Nice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPuvn4-x8ww

http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/46646/3712772-9096630483-Cage4.jpg
or http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/46646/3712772-9096630483-Cage4.jpg

Luke Cage gets his costume in Hero For Hire #2
I saw the joke about Shazam's costume there, so assume that the court case about who had the rights to the name captain Marvel must have just happened when it came out.

like every marvel hero of his era he just naturally has those folded over boots

man alive, Luke doesn't kill anyone and it's more of a "push out the criminals in our neighborhood" story. The beginning sets up, very clearly, a link between a crime boss an elected official and their joint corruption and influence in the neighborhood is what spurns action.

Somebody further up the thread was complaining about the way that she seemed to be getting off with all the individual heroes or something to that effect.

It was more of me questioning whether we really need to go down the route of every man/woman friendship or alliance eventually having to end up in a relationship. I know comics are mini-soap operas where eventually all of the main characters are going to end up with each other at some point over the years, but it'd be nice if a man and woman could get along well and work together without the plot throwing them into a romance. Especially if this is over the course of one season.

I mean, I understand everyone wanting to hook up with Luke Cage, he's a good-looking dude!

https://thenerdsofcolor.org/2016/10/04/luke-cage-is-the-most-feminist-show-on-tv/