Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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haven't gotten it yet but am skeptical of "like shuffling your winamp, with a few random tracks thrown in"

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 29 September 2016 22:26 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, it depends what you want out of it. I don't enjoy lists of all new to me stuff, I still want to hear all my favorites.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 30 September 2016 00:09 (seven years ago) link

Wait is the Daily Mix a new algorithm? I searched and find a few playlists with that name or similar compiled by individuals.

Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 September 2016 00:15 (seven years ago) link

I only see it on my android app, not on the desktop app so far. I do Home, then Your Library, and it appears right at the top of the screen above Playlists.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 30 September 2016 00:18 (seven years ago) link

Ah, I just updated iPhone app and see. I see five such Daily Mixes, numbered 1 to 5, a rock one with Big Star, The Velvets, The Modern Lovers, The Band, a funk/R&B one, a jazz one, and two others I don't know the theme of, one featuring Jane Weaver's "The Silver Globe" and one with all tracks and artists completely unfamiliar to me.

Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 September 2016 00:39 (seven years ago) link

Ah, so today, all the playlists have pretty much exactly the same artists as far as I can tell but different tunes.

Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 September 2016 10:54 (seven years ago) link

nobody feels like talkin about the mooted SoundCloud takeover?

something like this feels sort of inevitable - despite the vast amounts of money poured into human and algorithmic playlist-making, Spotify is at heart a reseller. A box store. Like Netflix. Where the playlist discovery mechanisms are Spotify's equivalents of Netflix originals. But both services are basically resellers. SoundCloud is the opposite, it's the YouTube of audio. if Spotify can sort out the rights issues (SoundCloud basically gave up on this several years ago afaict) it's not hard to imagine Spotify suddenly becoming one of the biggest indie "labels" overnight.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 September 2016 11:04 (seven years ago) link

But if it's not that, then I'm not sure that an extra layer of artist connectivity schmear / demo areas is going to set them apart? Apple Connect has been abysmal. Maybe I'm not seeing what they're seeing tho

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 September 2016 11:14 (seven years ago) link

This was the most sensible thing I read about it: http://www.recode.net/2016/9/28/13101740/spotify-sound-cloud-deal-makes-sense

minimal hat spiritualism (seandalai), Friday, 30 September 2016 12:01 (seven years ago) link

it all seems to boil down to "spotify buys a bunch of MAUs" which doesn't seem that "strategic" imo

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 September 2016 12:28 (seven years ago) link

Pop stat nerd question for Glenn: what are the artist's 'top five' songs based on? I assumed it was number of plays, but over in songs that weren't a bands biggest hit, but have gone on to be their legacy song and biggest iTunes seller , we're talking about the Pretenders... the top five seem to be ranked in order of plays, with the #5 song ("Holy Commotion") reports around 44,000 plays, but if you expand it out to the top 10, or scroll down to the albums and start mousing over stats, it becomes apparent there are many with more views, like "2000 Miles" with 6,220,016, or "middle of the Road" with 1,581,639.

So just out of curiosity - - - is the 'top five' algorithm designed to bake in some kind of variety, pushing lesser-heard songs to the fore? Recently-trending stuff? Stuff Spotify is delivering in Discover Weekly or other playlists? Countless ILM stat-nerd threads could depend on this information!

DOCTOR CAISNO, BYCREATIVELABBUS (Doctor Casino), Monday, 3 October 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link

it's absurd for spotify to recommend me things i've already listened to

brimstead, Monday, 3 October 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link

Maybe you didn't listen the right way

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 3 October 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

The "Popular" songs show raw play-counts in the UI, but are actually ranked based on an internal score that measures, roughly, "current" popularity...

Brimstead: where are you getting recs for things you've already played?

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 3 October 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

Glenn, thanks! That makes sense.

DOCTOR CAISNO, BYCREATIVELABBUS (Doctor Casino), Monday, 3 October 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link

I moved to another country for a year and just tried to start a family account but it's not working. My geo-sniffed country and the credit card country aren't the same, and it's blocking my family members from signing up. I was so ready to give Spotify another £5 a month!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 3 October 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link

Tracer, SpotifyCares can fix that for you...

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 00:34 (seven years ago) link

Brimstead: where are you getting recs for things you've already played?

― glenn mcdonald, Monday, October 3, 2016 11:54 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

discover tab in browse

brimstead, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 01:09 (seven years ago) link

many i haven't listened to in full, maybe its trying to tell me to be more open to new things

brimstead, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 01:10 (seven years ago) link

Looking at my Discover page at the moment, I'm not sure it's even trying to filter out things you've already heard. Certainly I have a few things I've played in full, although maybe not recently. We do more filtering in Discover Weekly and Release Radar (and even more, but in the opposite direction, in Daily Mix).

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 01:15 (seven years ago) link

is it possible that you're mistaking having played or heard it somewhere else for having played it *in spotify*? about 25% of my discover is things I've already heard, which is infuriating until reason takes over and I realize that barring a breadth of data-aggregation that -- well, probably does go on, but not to this end -- there's really no way for it to know everything I've ever heard, from any souce

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link

I would just like to thank Discover Weekly for leading me to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Gw4ar2cc0

MarkoP, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link

xp, yeah i thought about that. but there's albums like Tom Verlaine's "dreamtime" and the first richard lloyd album of which i'm absolutely certain i've 'previewed' on spotify. i might have 86'd em before listening to a single full track, though (don't kill me, television fanatics)

brimstead, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 22:35 (seven years ago) link

wow at that acid brasss album!

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 23:13 (seven years ago) link

How can I navigate to the Daily Mix playlists from the Sonos app? Can't wait for direct Sonos integration on the Spotify app.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 00:09 (seven years ago) link

That exists already

veggie sticks potato snacks (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 00:15 (seven years ago) link

Speaker should be under "devices available" in the usual spotify connect way

veggie sticks potato snacks (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 00:16 (seven years ago) link

Really? They announced it but I didn't think it went live yet. I'm on the latest iOS version and I can't find the option for Sonos.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 00:17 (seven years ago) link

hmmmm. I am using a samsung phone, and I've updated a few times.

veggie sticks potato snacks (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 01:20 (seven years ago) link

> wow at that acid brasss album!

Same band did a selection of Manchester anthems for Jeremy Seller's Manchester carnival a few years ago.

koogs, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 06:10 (seven years ago) link

SpotifyCares fixed it. Absolutely fantastic service, they must spend a fortune on it

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 06:53 (seven years ago) link

there was a second Acid Brass album in 2011 (the first was 2007) -I saw them play a Warp night at the Tate Modern in 2013, it was great

Shakey δσς (sic), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 07:26 (seven years ago) link

just checking that anyone who digs the acid brass album also knows acoustek and alarm will sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbaiUNVAzAc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2BnY-3iFSo

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 13:46 (seven years ago) link

Opened up my Spotify app on my iPhone this morning and now see that I have 19 notifications next to the "your library" button... only I don't know what the 19 notifications are related to and there is no indication of how to see what they're about or acknowledge that I've seen them...

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 15:58 (seven years ago) link

Just found out I've got a free Deezer subscription with my ISP, it's pretty decent really.

Only downside seems to be that as I live in (French speaking) Switzerland, they still keep feeding me French charts and curated playlists on the landing page, even though I've forced the language to English and the only French artist I've played or 'liked' so far is Éliane Radigue. Hope it learns quickly.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link

Does anyone know if there is a way to get to the Daily Mixes from the desktop app? Is it a mobile only thing like Running or Party?

fffv, Monday, 10 October 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link

Just came here to ask the same thing. I need the Daily Mix on Desktop and available through Sonos.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 10 October 2016 20:02 (seven years ago) link

I'm a little annoyed that I'm just stuck with the same 6 mixes each day. I thought maybe it would go to other genres sometimes.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 10 October 2016 20:17 (seven years ago) link

Can't access daily mixes through Alexa either...

schwantz, Monday, 10 October 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link

Full desktop access is in the works, but for now if you start a Daily Mix on your phone, you can then switch devices over to your desktop and keep listening to it.

If you want other genres, there are a few at everynoise.com...

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 10 October 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link

A few!

schwantz, Monday, 10 October 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link

hey glenn: if you click on Birmingham, Alabama on the musical map page it shows you the playlist "The Sound of Birmingham Michigan US"

https://insights.spotify.com/us/2015/07/13/musical-map-of-the-world/

esempiu (crüt), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:58 (seven years ago) link

Oh, thanks! (I don't do that page myself, but I'll get it fixed...)

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 13:52 (seven years ago) link

"mccartney ii is sick" –my Discover Weekly playlist, once a month

esempiu (crüt), Thursday, 13 October 2016 14:35 (seven years ago) link

mine is like "we know you love farewell transmission by songs: ohia so here it is yet again"

in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 14 October 2016 12:39 (seven years ago) link

not a complaint really

in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 14 October 2016 12:39 (seven years ago) link

Spotify is offline for me, can't even log into the website...accordimg to twitter lots of people are having the exact same problem :(

musically, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link

I was having the offline problem too. Logged out and restarted a few times, logged out on my phone as well as on my laptop... but it seems to be working now.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 14 October 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link

Hey, I have joined spotify and I am making playlists for you all to enjoy. I have fantastic musical taste so I urge you all to listen and follow me.

You can listen to my first playlist here

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link

Your username does not insoire confidence

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Thursday, 20 October 2016 02:09 (seven years ago) link


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