pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

lol what
Yeah, I tried typing a response to that last night but my eyes kept rolling back in my skull.

does anyone read the wire anymore btw

― jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:18 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they do if they're in it that month

― Dominique, Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:20 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heyooooooo

― jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:21 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ouch

I read it every month, but I write for it, so.

At this point, I skim it in the bookstores, but feel guilty about that. Used to buy it almost monthly, but can't justify doing so given that I have subscriptions to several magazines that I never get around to finishing.

if the stuff that eg Phillip Sherburne and Andy Beta are reviewing is trendy then I must be particularly out of the loop these days

anyway it comes back to the actual writing - they might not award a BNM or even a top-of-page review to experimental stuff but if I read it and I think "hey this sounds like its for me and that 7.7 or whatever suggests it isn't awful then maybe I'll give it some time of my own and see if I form a better opinion of it"

I stopped my Wire subscription last year (for mainly financial reasons) and I feel a weird kind of guilt about it but not sure how much I actually miss it.

lol what
Yeah, I tried typing a response to that last night but my eyes kept rolling back in my skull.

i was surprised when i saw him live! dunno what to tell you!
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Wednesday, September 21, 2016 7:05 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I saw him live too and unless you're in some kind of Wynton Marsalis bop utopia where fusion and the whole 70s and 80s never happened....I dunt know how you can call it not jazz that's just lj level ludicrous

does anyone read the wire anymore btw

― jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:18 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they do if they're in it that month

― Dominique, Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:20 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heyooooooo

― jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:21 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ouch

proud + ashamed to say this applies to me!

What's your point? I hide pictures of myself with my phone number in all sorts of magazines.

I dunt know how you can call it not jazz that's just lj level ludicrous

https://www.quackergiftshop.com/eCart/catalog/(249)jazz%20rubber%20duck%20white%20headband.jpg

Funky duck

It's spiritual hat jazz

always good to judge a band by its audience

(deej otm tho)

I guess fusion jazz or whatever got pretty far from what noobs (like me) think of as /jazz/, especially live the drums were so beefy and playing like, banging hip hop beats; The other concert that Kamasi live most reminded me of was The Roots

everyone plays beats in jazz these days, we've had so many generations raised on beats that it feels like the natural and honest approach for young jazz musicians, whereas making the choice to swing feels very particular and antiquated.

i agree that this can feel jam band-y at times. a lot of bands are good at avoiding jam band pitfalls, but it's tricky.

banging hip hop beats

but... so many banging hip hop beats are/were sampled from jazz records

those rhythms have been key elements of jazz since the late 60s, when swing rhythms stopped being so omnipresent

kinda feel like we should have a dedicated spiritual hat jazz thread tbh

right but i think it's changed even in the last 10-15 years. like when i was trying to play jazz in college it felt like we were getting away with something by playing beats, or it was ok to do that once or twice a set to change up the feel, like the obligatory latin jazz tune. and now you're just as likely to see shows where the ratio has flipped, or that's how it seems to me anyway.

A lot of funk samples too :P

As open a genre as jazz is, I think it might have room for some works being categorized both funk/soul AND jazz

interesting observation, I've thought more than once in that same period that the standard jazz swing beat is just a thing that's almost completely vanished from modern musical vocabulary. It was everywhere for decades, and now it's just kinda gone.

xp

Let's talk about late 60s/early 70s freeish Afrocentric/spiritual/astral jazz ("fire music"). could serve as a dedicated spiritual hat jazz thread

the soloing on the kamasi record... it's completely jazz style soloing, melodically, rhythmically...

i agree! live it was notably different.

http://i.imgur.com/F4zokUf.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwFNMkrJqFs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJFoWYA0rBA

wikki wikki.........

Kamasi is in the latest Marc Maron podcast, which is a, ah, thing (Ben Ratliff also puts in an appearance).

Yeah, I listened to it today. I'm not the biggest Maron fan, but it was an interesting conversation. (A lot more interesting than the Ratliff segment.)

I've got it lined up for a bedtime listen. Intrigued.

lmao @ that Jizz Addicts shirt

Forks the Kamasi Washington jazz truther...why won't Kamasi Washington show us his jazz certificate? The people deserve to know!

http://i.imgur.com/2sP8oun.png

idk who Pfork's target audience is anymore but it sure isn't me, I check it once or twice a week now

omg i have this video idea that is, like, totally random

I smell a Pulitzer

idk who Pfork's target audience is anymore but it sure isn't me, I check it once or twice a week now

― Οὖτις, Friday, September 23, 2016 11:37 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

probably once every two weeks for me which is a big shift. redesign did it for me tho.

LOL--this is news?

http://pitchfork.com/news/68561-rick-rubin-attends-first-presidential-debate/

Ever since the redesign (could be coincidence) they've been posting these weird stories occasionally that only exist because they involve, in whatever abstract way, someone with a connection to the music business but don't have much else to do with the actual music or the business.

They were dying for a way to put "Presidential Debate" into a headline in this case obviously

Good to see them covering every streaming platform that Blonde is available on.

Especially considering his newfound penchant for breezy, non-confrontational pop music, in 2016, it’s hard to imagine Banhart being at the forefront of anything

bon iver to thread

the way they phrased it made me think it was about rick rubin attending his first presidential debate and i was like, well congrats look who's a big boy

it is about rick rubin attending his first presidential debate

wow that's so cool he must have been so excited

he's a big boy

gave him a break from sitting crosslegged on a couch telling anthony kiedis he "really likes the energy" of that vocal take