pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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scroll down and you see led zep; no more moving carousel of album reviews (before you could see a few days worth), now just a few albums

not on the front page but if you actually open a review and scroll down it keeps scrolling down to previous days' reviews

i'm not sure why you think the predominance of what you call "race articles" (nice btw) is tailored or manually placed beyond it being part of the overall editorial vision of the site

Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link

sorry I guess you mean articles specifically about race? the phrase sounded weird on its own

Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link

though I'm still not sure what articles you're talking about. right now there's one article on the front page that mentions a racial divide but nothing else

Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link

I guess what bugs me about your post is that you seem to be pitting "political/feminist/race article" and "hip hop, pop, race articles" against what you call "nice articles," suggesting that you think their coverage of political issues is obscuring something more important or interesting.

Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

articles specifically about race

this is the thing, it looks disingenuous

race and gender politics is clearly very important in the world. but i never went to pitchfork to get my daily dose of politics

i mean, every time a musician talks about politics it's gonna be crap

it looks like p4k are piggybacking on a larger trend to stay relevant but are still without substance

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

also, so much stranger things content. so much. (perhaps it has been mentioned before, but I ain't opening those 8k messages)

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link

Musicians are talking quite a lot about politics in uncrap ways these days. Only a spectacularly reactionary music site would not write news articles about this.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link

This is probably mentioned upthread, but since Conde Nast took over there are also video ads in the middle of content, and things like "Like us on Facebook" pop-ups you have to exit before reading the site. In addition to content like "Watch the 'Stranger Things' kids perform 'Uptown Funk'!" that probably wouldn't have appeared 1-2 years ago.

intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 01:41 (seven years ago) link

lol dont u have an adblocker

jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 01:46 (seven years ago) link

it also feels like there's more reviews and articles on experimental music. The site is obviously moving away from indie rock, and it feels like they're filling some of that gap with increasing coverage of "avant-garde" stuff, particularly electronic stuff. But they're also reviewing more than one jazz album a week, when for a decade they followed a strict one-per-month policy.

intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 01:52 (seven years ago) link

i don't give a shit about internet ads, it wasn't a complaint

intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 01:52 (seven years ago) link

it also feels like there's more reviews and articles on experimental music.

they literally got rid of the out door

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 01:58 (seven years ago) link

good point. I just scanned through the site and i think my feeling about the experimental thing is actually wrong. The jazz thing is real, but it's very possibly just them riding a trend and will die down in like a year or two

intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 02:02 (seven years ago) link

You can thank Kamasi Washington for the Jazz trend, tho idk how long it'll last

carly reagan jepsen (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 02:13 (seven years ago) link

Kamasi ime is more jam band with funk elements than jazz but ymmv

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 02:20 (seven years ago) link

The fact that Jazz is a genre filter on the site, and that Seth Colter-Walls is a contributor, is encouraging.

Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 05:04 (seven years ago) link

Kamasi ime is more jam band with funk elements than jazz but ymmv

― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:20 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol what

marcos, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 13:55 (seven years ago) link

Kamasi ime is more jam band with funk elements than jazz but ymmv

― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:20 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol what

Yeah, I tried typing a response to that last night but my eyes kept rolling back in my skull.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 13:56 (seven years ago) link

Kamasi Washington's next album is a covers album of String Cheese Incident songs with Graham Central Station as his backing band

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link

Bitches Bonabroo

tylerw, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:13 (seven years ago) link

it also feels like there's more reviews and articles on experimental music. The site is obviously moving away from indie rock, and it feels like they're filling some of that gap with increasing coverage of "avant-garde" stuff, particularly electronic stuff.

― intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 01:52 (nineteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

almost excelsiored this tbrr

imago, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link

does anyone read the wire anymore btw

jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link

they do if they're in it that month

Dominique, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link

heyooooooo

jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link

braggin' 2016

imago, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link

seriously though pitchfork do not give one shit about avant-garde music

imago, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/22345-arvo-part-the-deers-cry/

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link

...comparatively speaking, and they definitely don't give a shit about new experimental artists

imago, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link

Those are all decades-confirmed masters

imago, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link

But, they just BNMed Sunergy (for example)

Evan, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link

and Anna Meredith

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link

well, they should give more of a shit, cf that clipping review mentioned upthread where they 5.3 hip-hop history

imago, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link

how much of a shit any publication gives about areas of music is usually borne out by their eoy lists rather than their intermittent concessions

imago, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link

anyway whatever i fight this erry day and yall bored

imago, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link

isn't covering clipping at all the definition of "giving a shit"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link

yeah fine

still think they only really cover shit if it's fashionable and they infinitesimally rarely let an underdog at the throne. kanye has a 100000x bigger chance of a 9.something than any bandcamp mc regardless of the respective quality of their outputs (not saying kanye is bad, even)

imago, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link

they only really cover shit if it's fashionable

this is a tautology or something i think /dumb_person

brimstead, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link

or maybe a misunderstanding of how entertainment media works

brimstead, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

i remember the days when pitchfork would fearlessly drop 9+ on a clearlake album

nomar, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

they literally did that

imago, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

oh i see

imago, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

just forget i posted

brimstead, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link

me too

imago, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:51 (seven years ago) link

Louis is about five posts away from calling them "cuckfork"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link

did you literally compare me to a MRA redditor

imago, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link

goddamn i'm easy to rile

imago, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link

lol what
Yeah, I tried typing a response to that last night but my eyes kept rolling back in my skull.

i was surprised when i saw him live! dunno what to tell you!

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 22 September 2016 00:05 (seven years ago) link

does anyone read the wire anymore btw

― jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:18 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they do if they're in it that month

― Dominique, Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:20 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heyooooooo

― jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:21 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ouch

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 22 September 2016 02:02 (seven years ago) link


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