is it really necessary to have nominations when you've already curated a list from which people can choose?
― have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link
just have people vote for their 25 or however-many favorite from this list (or, if they really want to, another record) and count the votes
― have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:30 (seven years ago) link
nominations are needed so everyone has the same correct spellings of the albums otherwise tabulating is a nightmare
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link
Will follow this thread closely I think. I finally read Turn The Beat Around early this year and the chapter on 70s soul (as a precusor to disco) was maybe my favourite section.
― Tim F, Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link
it's not a nightmare, it's just ... There are ways to make it not a big deal. But it's more fun to list
― brimstead, Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:19 (seven years ago) link
How hard could it be to just look out for misspellings, it's not like there are hundreds of ballots, argh why do I care
― brimstead, Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:21 (seven years ago) link
*whispers* also the list of albums the voters are going to copy and paste from is right at the top of this thread
― have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:45 (seven years ago) link
why does it bother you?
People have their own faves they want to vote for.
Having nominations allows discussion on albums before voting and might lead to people discovering albums to vote for.
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link
the reason why people need to nominate albums is because a.) this list doesn't contain "off the wall," b.) it does contain "osmium" which is like the most psychedelic and rock-oriented album in the p-funk universe that isn't actually by funkadelic and it's also the ONLY parliament album, c.) rate your music is not an infallible source (you got a buncha jorge ben albums on there and no milton nascimento...so which '70s m.p.b. artists are "soul" and which aren't? etc etc), and d.) come on, now.
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:02 (seven years ago) link
I finally read Turn The Beat Around early this year and the chapter on 70s soul (as a precusor to disco) was maybe my favourite section.
Lol same here
― the coyotes have taken over the town (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:22 (seven years ago) link
What book is that?
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:24 (seven years ago) link
i misunderstood k3vin k's post + my posts were stupid, forgive my shitposting
jorge ben doesn't make sense on here to me, either
― brimstead, Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:47 (seven years ago) link
xp T
xp Turn The Beat Around by Peter Shapiro
Yeah, I'll definitely vote for this.
― Austin, Sunday, 18 September 2016 06:03 (seven years ago) link
^ this! I put the word CAMPAIGNING in the title for a reason, you know. I'd love to see videos of deep cuts or cool tracks you discovered from the album list.
― ArchCarrier, Sunday, 18 September 2016 06:23 (seven years ago) link
Just by randomly searching for names and titles I already found these gems that I wouldn't have heard otherwise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypFbS5pJc1A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUD4KSnR5v8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_9lZG91cyY(see, nominations DO work!)
― ArchCarrier, Sunday, 18 September 2016 06:59 (seven years ago) link
Now That's What I Call Poll!
Of course this board has jumped on all the big cracks in the master list already, I would struggle with 10 new nominees at this point but I've got one off the top of my head that I will gleefully embed selections from presently
Edwin Birdsong - Supernatural (1973)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WhlUYCqCMAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci5r2fTKASY
― erudite beach boys fan (sheesh), Sunday, 18 September 2016 07:45 (seven years ago) link
if you only have a minute and twenty-one seconds to spare please spend it on that first cut, the chorus will convince you otherwise
― erudite beach boys fan (sheesh), Sunday, 18 September 2016 07:48 (seven years ago) link
wow @ mystic syster just upthread, wtf eddy grant who knew
― erudite beach boys fan (sheesh), Sunday, 18 September 2016 08:58 (seven years ago) link
This is legit one of my favorite songs of the 70s in any genre by any artist, and it's completely unheralded...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba8_E_WRN2w
(Feel free to listen to and fall in love with Black Ruby, and then vote for it.)
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 18 September 2016 12:11 (seven years ago) link
Would be better if everyne used the shortened urls so they dont embed otherwise this thread will be impossible to open for some
Baby Huey - Hard Timeshttps://youtu.be/FFZ58rJiE4k
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 13:32 (seven years ago) link
Linda Jones - Your Precious Love
https://youtu.be/ZY7fZ95XfMY
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 18 September 2016 15:25 (seven years ago) link
Prophecy fulfillment:
Betty Davis - Betty DavisBetty Davis - They Say I'm DifferentBetty Davis - Nasty Gal
3/10
― lingereffect (Kent Burt), Sunday, 18 September 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link
I'm curious as to how rigidly "soul" is being defined here. As with Off the Wall, I'm wondering how Donna Summer's first two records count as "soul" but her disco ones do not. I (or someone else) could easily nominate them, I suppose, but how strictly do *we* want to enforce a definition of "soul," is basically what I'm asking.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Sunday, 18 September 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link
would it be disappointing if, hypothetically, a disco or funk record won the soul poll?
― niels, Sunday, 18 September 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, maybe it should be a 1970's r'n'b albums poll?
Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band - Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah BandGloria Gaynor - Never Can Say GoodbyeElvis Presley - That's the Way It IsChic - RisquéThe Wild Tchoupitoulas - The Wild Tchoupitoulas
5/10
― simmel, Sunday, 18 September 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link
xp
Short answer, yes.
Longer answer, both disco and funk were offshoots of r&b and soul, and by a certain point in the decade, no label was really concentrating on soul records anymore and not many artists were really recording soul records anymore, so if a disco or funk record were to win it's only because it would've been the result of soul having such a diminished presence for at least the last third of the 70s.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 18 September 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link
Rasputin's Stash - Rasputin's StashCommodores - ZoomDusty Springfield - Cameo Brick - A Good HighMichael Henderson - Solid
― Kitchen Person, Sunday, 18 September 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link
if you ban funk then that means no Curtis Mayfield, Isley Brothers etc not just parliament/funkadelic or ohio players.
You would need to remove half of the nominated albums.
Why not just make it a soul & subgenres poll and enjoy listening to some albums
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link
yeah, there is no point in not including funk/disco...ojays "love train" is basically a disco template, still soul
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Sunday, 18 September 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link
no curtis, james brown, isley brothers, funkadelic, parliament, stevie wonder - innervisions, sly & the family stone and loads of others would be daft
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link
What is soul?I don't know, huh!Soul is a hamhock in your cornflakes, yeah
What is soul? HehhehhehI don't knowHuhSoul, soul is the ring around your bathtub
What is soul?I don't knowHuh, uhSoul is a joint rolled in toilet paper
[Repeat: 3X]Lalalala, ladada
Boo, boo, boo, bom, bom, bom
What is soulMan, I don't know, huhSoul is rusty ankles and ashy kneecaps
What is soulMan, I don't knowSoul is chitlins foo yung
What is soulMan, I told ya, I don't knowHuhSoul is a hamhock in your cornflakesOh, get on down now!Yeah
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link
I'm not advocating banning disco or funk, but at what point does this stop being a poll about soul records and start becoming a poll about "music black artists made in the 70s"?
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link
Matthew Larkin Cassell - Pieces Ray Charles - True to Life Double Exposure - FourplayYellow Sunshine - Yellow SunshineChic - C'est ChicMichael Jackson - Off the Wall
― Ari (whenuweremine), Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link
Earth, Wind & Fire - I Am
― Ari (whenuweremine), Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link
even if there was a soul poll then a funk poll just imagine the fighting over what should be eligible for either poll
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link
Look, if you think soul is such a vague/broad category than you can't identify a soul record when you hear it, then sure...vote for P-Funk or Donna Summer. I ain't gonna.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link
I have to agree with Cosmic Slop; but Johnny Fever also OTM earlier about the evolution of soul music in the latter part of the decade. So funk and disco are OK, but a country record with a soul cover buried on the second side is not OK, even it is for some reason included on the master list (not that anyone was going to vote for that record anyway...)
― ArchCarrier, Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link
if you just say its a Soul/Funk/Disco poll then problem solved
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever)
when we cut larry jon wilson from the list. :)
― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link
hard to exclude funk and disco from the poll - but the results won't really be "ILX's ultimate soul records" I guess
that's for a different poll/discussion maybe, most soulful records of the 70s or smth
― niels, Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:39 (seven years ago) link
Bill Withers - Live at Carnegie HallDonny Hathway - LiveEarth, Wind & Fire - Gratitude
― Ari (whenuweremine), Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link
Bootsy's Rubber Band - Stretchin' Out in Rick James - Bustin' Out Of L Seven Sly Stone - High On You
― Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link
Bernie Worrell - All The Woo In The World Bootsy's Rubber Band - Bootsy Player of the Year Brass Construction - Brass Construction Brothers Johnson - Right On Time Meters - Fire On The Bayou Slave - Slave Slave - The Concept Slave - Just a Touch of Love
― the coyotes have taken over the town (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link
^ awesome choices!!!
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link
Hall &Oates - Abandoned Luncheonette
― Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Sunday, 18 September 2016 19:14 (seven years ago) link
This sounds like my type of poll, here's my nominations:
Nina Simone - Emergency Ward!Nina Simone - Black GoldAndy Bey - Experience and JudgmentA Taste of Honey - A Taste of HoneyPatti Austin - Havana CandyThe Jones Girls - The Jones GirlsCrown Heights Affair - Dream WorldLeon Thomas - Full CircleDee Dee Bridgewater - Just FamilyKimiko Kasai - Butterfly
― Tuomas, Sunday, 18 September 2016 19:26 (seven years ago) link
~~~Nominations updated~~~
I didn't include Elvis Presley's That's the Way It Is unless someone can make a good case about this album.
D.A.M: Right on Time was nominated before, so you get an extra slot.
Tuomas, three of your picks were already on the list, so you get three more.
― ArchCarrier, Sunday, 18 September 2016 19:49 (seven years ago) link
James Brown - Revolution of the Mind
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 18 September 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link