LET'S GET IT ON! It's the ~~~ 1970s SOUL ALBUMS POLL ~~~ NOMINATIONS AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD

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Updated nominations up to here.

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

What do others think about Elis Regina, Larry Jon Wilson and Stories? I wouldn't call any of them "soul" myself, but maybe I'm missing something....

If something really sticks out I can always remove it, no problem. On the other hand, if it doesn't feel like soul you can just ignore it when voting starts.

The RYM chart was just an easy way to get this poll started.

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link

Discovering Southern Nights last year was a revelation.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link

yeah that list has just about anything you could want, really. only thing i can think of to add is "mystic syster" by the equals which is, you know, not something i expect to get a hell of a lot of votes.

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link

if we're talking about culling the list, i love that kim jung mi album but it's _not_ when i think of when i think "'70s soul". but if anyone else was planning on voting for "ga na da ra ma ba, my loving korean alphabet", you know, pipe up.

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link

I have one nom left then but got loads I'd like to nominate but I guess we need some Cameo in here

Cameo - Cardiac Arrest

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link

Hope somebody will nominate James Brown's Sex Machine since I managed to miss it.

Edd Hurt, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link

Could we not have 25 noms or something? you said you could be bribed..... :)

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

Hold on, I'll PM you my Amazon wishlist.

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link

Why don't you post some YouTubes? They might inspire someone else to nominate your stuff!

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link

Well I'm pretty sure the Betty Davis albums will get nommed at least

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link

is it really necessary to have nominations when you've already curated a list from which people can choose?

have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link

just have people vote for their 25 or however-many favorite from this list (or, if they really want to, another record) and count the votes

have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:30 (seven years ago) link

nominations are needed so everyone has the same correct spellings of the albums otherwise tabulating is a nightmare

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link

Will follow this thread closely I think. I finally read Turn The Beat Around early this year and the chapter on 70s soul (as a precusor to disco) was maybe my favourite section.

Tim F, Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link

it's not a nightmare, it's just ... There are ways to make it not a big deal. But it's more fun to list

brimstead, Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:19 (seven years ago) link

How hard could it be to just look out for misspellings, it's not like there are hundreds of ballots, argh why do I care

brimstead, Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:21 (seven years ago) link

*whispers* also the list of albums the voters are going to copy and paste from is right at the top of this thread

have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:45 (seven years ago) link

why does it bother you?

People have their own faves they want to vote for.

Having nominations allows discussion on albums before voting and might lead to people discovering albums to vote for.

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

the reason why people need to nominate albums is because a.) this list doesn't contain "off the wall," b.) it does contain "osmium" which is like the most psychedelic and rock-oriented album in the p-funk universe that isn't actually by funkadelic and it's also the ONLY parliament album, c.) rate your music is not an infallible source (you got a buncha jorge ben albums on there and no milton nascimento...so which '70s m.p.b. artists are "soul" and which aren't? etc etc), and d.) come on, now.

a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:02 (seven years ago) link

I finally read Turn The Beat Around early this year and the chapter on 70s soul (as a precusor to disco) was maybe my favourite section.

Lol same here

the coyotes have taken over the town (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:22 (seven years ago) link

What book is that?

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:24 (seven years ago) link

i misunderstood k3vin k's post + my posts were stupid, forgive my shitposting

jorge ben doesn't make sense on here to me, either

brimstead, Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:47 (seven years ago) link

xp T

brimstead, Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:47 (seven years ago) link

xp Turn The Beat Around by Peter Shapiro

brimstead, Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:47 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I'll definitely vote for this.

Austin, Sunday, 18 September 2016 06:03 (seven years ago) link

Having nominations allows discussion on albums before voting and might lead to people discovering albums to vote for.

^ this! I put the word CAMPAIGNING in the title for a reason, you know. I'd love to see videos of deep cuts or cool tracks you discovered from the album list.

ArchCarrier, Sunday, 18 September 2016 06:23 (seven years ago) link

Just by randomly searching for names and titles I already found these gems that I wouldn't have heard otherwise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypFbS5pJc1A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUD4KSnR5v8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_9lZG91cyY
(see, nominations DO work!)

ArchCarrier, Sunday, 18 September 2016 06:59 (seven years ago) link

Now That's What I Call Poll!

Of course this board has jumped on all the big cracks in the master list already, I would struggle with 10 new nominees at this point but I've got one off the top of my head that I will gleefully embed selections from presently

Edwin Birdsong - Supernatural (1973)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WhlUYCqCMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci5r2fTKASY

erudite beach boys fan (sheesh), Sunday, 18 September 2016 07:45 (seven years ago) link

if you only have a minute and twenty-one seconds to spare please spend it on that first cut, the chorus will convince you otherwise

erudite beach boys fan (sheesh), Sunday, 18 September 2016 07:48 (seven years ago) link

wow @ mystic syster just upthread, wtf eddy grant who knew

erudite beach boys fan (sheesh), Sunday, 18 September 2016 08:58 (seven years ago) link

This is legit one of my favorite songs of the 70s in any genre by any artist, and it's completely unheralded...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba8_E_WRN2w

(Feel free to listen to and fall in love with Black Ruby, and then vote for it.)

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 18 September 2016 12:11 (seven years ago) link

Would be better if everyne used the shortened urls so they dont embed otherwise this thread will be impossible to open for some

Baby Huey - Hard Times
https://youtu.be/FFZ58rJiE4k

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 13:32 (seven years ago) link

Linda Jones - Your Precious Love

https://youtu.be/ZY7fZ95XfMY

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 18 September 2016 15:25 (seven years ago) link

Prophecy fulfillment:

Betty Davis - Betty Davis
Betty Davis - They Say I'm Different
Betty Davis - Nasty Gal

3/10

lingereffect (Kent Burt), Sunday, 18 September 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link

I'm curious as to how rigidly "soul" is being defined here. As with Off the Wall, I'm wondering how Donna Summer's first two records count as "soul" but her disco ones do not. I (or someone else) could easily nominate them, I suppose, but how strictly do *we* want to enforce a definition of "soul," is basically what I'm asking.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Sunday, 18 September 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link

would it be disappointing if, hypothetically, a disco or funk record won the soul poll?

niels, Sunday, 18 September 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, maybe it should be a 1970's r'n'b albums poll?

Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band - Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band
Gloria Gaynor - Never Can Say Goodbye
Elvis Presley - That's the Way It Is
Chic - Risqué
The Wild Tchoupitoulas - The Wild Tchoupitoulas

5/10

simmel, Sunday, 18 September 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link

xp

Short answer, yes.

Longer answer, both disco and funk were offshoots of r&b and soul, and by a certain point in the decade, no label was really concentrating on soul records anymore and not many artists were really recording soul records anymore, so if a disco or funk record were to win it's only because it would've been the result of soul having such a diminished presence for at least the last third of the 70s.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 18 September 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link

Rasputin's Stash - Rasputin's Stash
Commodores - Zoom
Dusty Springfield - Cameo
Brick - A Good High
Michael Henderson - Solid

5/10

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 18 September 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link

if you ban funk then that means no Curtis Mayfield, Isley Brothers etc not just parliament/funkadelic or ohio players.

You would need to remove half of the nominated albums.

Why not just make it a soul & subgenres poll and enjoy listening to some albums

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link

yeah, there is no point in not including funk/disco...ojays "love train" is basically a disco template, still soul

6 god none the richer (m bison), Sunday, 18 September 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link

no curtis, james brown, isley brothers, funkadelic, parliament, stevie wonder - innervisions, sly & the family stone and loads of others would be daft

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link

What is soul?
I don't know, huh!
Soul is a hamhock in your cornflakes, yeah

What is soul? Hehhehheh
I don't know
Huh
Soul, soul is the ring around your bathtub

What is soul?
I don't know
Huh, uh
Soul is a joint rolled in toilet paper

[Repeat: 3X]
Lalalala, ladada

Boo, boo, boo, bom, bom, bom

What is soul
Man, I don't know, huh
Soul is rusty ankles and ashy kneecaps

What is soul
Man, I don't know
Soul is chitlins foo yung

What is soul
Man, I told ya, I don't know
Huh
Soul is a hamhock in your cornflakes
Oh, get on down now!
Yeah

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link

I'm not advocating banning disco or funk, but at what point does this stop being a poll about soul records and start becoming a poll about "music black artists made in the 70s"?

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

Matthew Larkin Cassell - Pieces
Ray Charles - True to Life
Double Exposure - Fourplay
Yellow Sunshine - Yellow Sunshine
Chic - C'est Chic
Michael Jackson - Off the Wall

Ari (whenuweremine), Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link

Earth, Wind & Fire - I Am

Ari (whenuweremine), Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link

even if there was a soul poll then a funk poll just imagine the fighting over what should be eligible for either poll

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link

Look, if you think soul is such a vague/broad category than you can't identify a soul record when you hear it, then sure...vote for P-Funk or Donna Summer. I ain't gonna.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link

I have to agree with Cosmic Slop; but Johnny Fever also OTM earlier about the evolution of soul music in the latter part of the decade. So funk and disco are OK, but a country record with a soul cover buried on the second side is not OK, even it is for some reason included on the master list (not that anyone was going to vote for that record anyway...)

ArchCarrier, Sunday, 18 September 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link

And we're rolling:

PEOPLE... HOLD ON. It's the ~~~ ILM 1970s SOUL/FUNK/DISCO ALBUMS POLL ~~~ results thread!

ArchCarrier, Monday, 17 October 2016 11:39 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

I know there were only a handful of original members there, but I really enjoyed the Valentines Soul Jam concert I saw February 12th with the Stylistics, Dramatics, Harold Melvin's Blue Notes, and Intruders. Oh I got there a bit late and missed Cuba Gooding Sr.

Some great falsetto, harmonies and group choreographed dance moves. Stylistics and Blue Notes were the most impressive.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 23 February 2017 19:12 (seven years ago) link

TRAX POLL

Headphone Jack (seandalai), Thursday, 23 February 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link

After the emo poll is done, OK?

ArchCarrier, Thursday, 23 February 2017 22:28 (seven years ago) link

sweet :)

Headphone Jack (seandalai), Thursday, 23 February 2017 22:55 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

And here it is:

Papa was a POLLING STONE: It's the 1970s SOUL/FUNK/DISCO ~~~ TRACKS POLL

ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 March 2017 14:56 (seven years ago) link


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