LET'S GET IT ON! It's the ~~~ 1970s SOUL ALBUMS POLL ~~~ NOMINATIONS AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD

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There's so many funk albums I want to nominate!

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link

The Brothers Johnson:

Look Out for #1
Right on Time
Blam!

Lee626, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link

Bo Diddley – Big Bad Bo (1974)

Checking this out now. I didn't know there was this side to him. It's great stuff.

jmm, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link

JF: I was thinking Riot, which won't vote-split.

clemenza, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link

the omnipresence of that Donnie joe album is starting to scare me... is there backmasking involved or something?

brimstead, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link

if you change the title btw to soul/funk then there will be no arguments :)

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

I dont know the Donnie and Joe Emerson – Dreamin' Wild (1979) what have i missed?

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

Rita Coolidge and Charlie Rich on this list seems weird, but eh (I like both of those albums, too).

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link

I dont know the Donnie and Joe Emerson – Dreamin' Wild (1979) what have i missed?

It's a "long lost" (read: private press album nobody ever heard until a few years ago) that's some pseudo-Hall & Oates shit hipsters love.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

What do others think about Elis Regina, Larry Jon Wilson and Stories? I wouldn't call any of them "soul" myself, but maybe I'm missing something.... Fantastic list!

Nominations:
Howard Tate Reaction 1970
Esther Phillips Burnin' 1970
Esther Phillips Confessin' the Blues 1976
Allen Toussaint Life, Love and Faith 1972
The Dells Like It Is Like It Was 1970
Mel & Tim Starting All Over Again 1972
The Miracles City of Angels 1975
Clarence Reid On the Job 1976
Charlie Whitehead Raw Spitt 1970
Junior Parker I Tell Stories Sad and True, I Sing the Blues and Play Harmonica Too, It Is Very Funky 1972

Edd Hurt, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link

Rita Coolidge and Charlie Rich on this list seems weird
Good call, I removed them from the list.

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link

It's a "long lost" (read: private press album nobody ever heard until a few years ago) that's some pseudo-Hall & Oates shit hipsters love.

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:25 (fourteen minutes ago

ahhhh, ilxors

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link

Updated nominations up to here.

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

What do others think about Elis Regina, Larry Jon Wilson and Stories? I wouldn't call any of them "soul" myself, but maybe I'm missing something....

If something really sticks out I can always remove it, no problem. On the other hand, if it doesn't feel like soul you can just ignore it when voting starts.

The RYM chart was just an easy way to get this poll started.

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link

Discovering Southern Nights last year was a revelation.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link

yeah that list has just about anything you could want, really. only thing i can think of to add is "mystic syster" by the equals which is, you know, not something i expect to get a hell of a lot of votes.

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link

if we're talking about culling the list, i love that kim jung mi album but it's _not_ when i think of when i think "'70s soul". but if anyone else was planning on voting for "ga na da ra ma ba, my loving korean alphabet", you know, pipe up.

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link

I have one nom left then but got loads I'd like to nominate but I guess we need some Cameo in here

Cameo - Cardiac Arrest

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link

Hope somebody will nominate James Brown's Sex Machine since I managed to miss it.

Edd Hurt, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link

Could we not have 25 noms or something? you said you could be bribed..... :)

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

Hold on, I'll PM you my Amazon wishlist.

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link

Why don't you post some YouTubes? They might inspire someone else to nominate your stuff!

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link

Well I'm pretty sure the Betty Davis albums will get nommed at least

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link

is it really necessary to have nominations when you've already curated a list from which people can choose?

have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link

just have people vote for their 25 or however-many favorite from this list (or, if they really want to, another record) and count the votes

have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:30 (seven years ago) link

nominations are needed so everyone has the same correct spellings of the albums otherwise tabulating is a nightmare

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link

Will follow this thread closely I think. I finally read Turn The Beat Around early this year and the chapter on 70s soul (as a precusor to disco) was maybe my favourite section.

Tim F, Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link

it's not a nightmare, it's just ... There are ways to make it not a big deal. But it's more fun to list

brimstead, Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:19 (seven years ago) link

How hard could it be to just look out for misspellings, it's not like there are hundreds of ballots, argh why do I care

brimstead, Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:21 (seven years ago) link

*whispers* also the list of albums the voters are going to copy and paste from is right at the top of this thread

have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:45 (seven years ago) link

why does it bother you?

People have their own faves they want to vote for.

Having nominations allows discussion on albums before voting and might lead to people discovering albums to vote for.

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

the reason why people need to nominate albums is because a.) this list doesn't contain "off the wall," b.) it does contain "osmium" which is like the most psychedelic and rock-oriented album in the p-funk universe that isn't actually by funkadelic and it's also the ONLY parliament album, c.) rate your music is not an infallible source (you got a buncha jorge ben albums on there and no milton nascimento...so which '70s m.p.b. artists are "soul" and which aren't? etc etc), and d.) come on, now.

a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:02 (seven years ago) link

I finally read Turn The Beat Around early this year and the chapter on 70s soul (as a precusor to disco) was maybe my favourite section.

Lol same here

the coyotes have taken over the town (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:22 (seven years ago) link

What book is that?

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:24 (seven years ago) link

i misunderstood k3vin k's post + my posts were stupid, forgive my shitposting

jorge ben doesn't make sense on here to me, either

brimstead, Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:47 (seven years ago) link

xp T

brimstead, Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:47 (seven years ago) link

xp Turn The Beat Around by Peter Shapiro

brimstead, Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:47 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I'll definitely vote for this.

Austin, Sunday, 18 September 2016 06:03 (seven years ago) link

Having nominations allows discussion on albums before voting and might lead to people discovering albums to vote for.

^ this! I put the word CAMPAIGNING in the title for a reason, you know. I'd love to see videos of deep cuts or cool tracks you discovered from the album list.

ArchCarrier, Sunday, 18 September 2016 06:23 (seven years ago) link

Just by randomly searching for names and titles I already found these gems that I wouldn't have heard otherwise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypFbS5pJc1A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUD4KSnR5v8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_9lZG91cyY
(see, nominations DO work!)

ArchCarrier, Sunday, 18 September 2016 06:59 (seven years ago) link

Now That's What I Call Poll!

Of course this board has jumped on all the big cracks in the master list already, I would struggle with 10 new nominees at this point but I've got one off the top of my head that I will gleefully embed selections from presently

Edwin Birdsong - Supernatural (1973)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WhlUYCqCMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci5r2fTKASY

erudite beach boys fan (sheesh), Sunday, 18 September 2016 07:45 (seven years ago) link

if you only have a minute and twenty-one seconds to spare please spend it on that first cut, the chorus will convince you otherwise

erudite beach boys fan (sheesh), Sunday, 18 September 2016 07:48 (seven years ago) link

wow @ mystic syster just upthread, wtf eddy grant who knew

erudite beach boys fan (sheesh), Sunday, 18 September 2016 08:58 (seven years ago) link

This is legit one of my favorite songs of the 70s in any genre by any artist, and it's completely unheralded...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba8_E_WRN2w

(Feel free to listen to and fall in love with Black Ruby, and then vote for it.)

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 18 September 2016 12:11 (seven years ago) link

Would be better if everyne used the shortened urls so they dont embed otherwise this thread will be impossible to open for some

Baby Huey - Hard Times
https://youtu.be/FFZ58rJiE4k

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 13:32 (seven years ago) link

Linda Jones - Your Precious Love

https://youtu.be/ZY7fZ95XfMY

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 18 September 2016 15:25 (seven years ago) link

Prophecy fulfillment:

Betty Davis - Betty Davis
Betty Davis - They Say I'm Different
Betty Davis - Nasty Gal

3/10

lingereffect (Kent Burt), Sunday, 18 September 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link

I'm curious as to how rigidly "soul" is being defined here. As with Off the Wall, I'm wondering how Donna Summer's first two records count as "soul" but her disco ones do not. I (or someone else) could easily nominate them, I suppose, but how strictly do *we* want to enforce a definition of "soul," is basically what I'm asking.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Sunday, 18 September 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link

would it be disappointing if, hypothetically, a disco or funk record won the soul poll?

niels, Sunday, 18 September 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, maybe it should be a 1970's r'n'b albums poll?

Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band - Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band
Gloria Gaynor - Never Can Say Goodbye
Elvis Presley - That's the Way It Is
Chic - Risqué
The Wild Tchoupitoulas - The Wild Tchoupitoulas

5/10

simmel, Sunday, 18 September 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link

Couldn't see these on the nominations list:

The Jimmy Castor Bunch - It's Just Begun
The Jimmy Castor Bunch featuring The Everything Man - E-Man Groovin'
Beautiful Bend - Make That Feeling Come Again!
USA-European Connection - Come Into My Heart
Caress - Caress
First Choice - So Let Us Entertain You
Pleasure - Accept No Substitutes
Pleasure - Joyous
Fern Kinney - Groove Me
Donna Summer - Bad Girls

Jeff W, Saturday, 8 October 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link

xxp I always lump Syreeta in with Minnie Riperton as a sort of spiritual soul that's just not for me. But I will relisten to that album before voting for sure. Digging Lou Ragland and Ace Spectrum from that list. Inner Spectrum is moving up the ranks of my hyperfalsetto favorites.

simmel, Sunday, 9 October 2016 05:20 (seven years ago) link

~~~ Nominations updated ~~~

ArchCarrier, Sunday, 9 October 2016 07:52 (seven years ago) link

I've given up on trying to listen to everything, because there's just SO MUCH good music here. I'm happy to have found some great albums already because of this thread, and voting hasn't even started!

ArchCarrier, Sunday, 9 October 2016 07:57 (seven years ago) link

Speaking of voting: I'm thinking of ballots with a minimum of 25 and a maximum of 100 albums.
Would it be OK if the top 25 of every ballot was weighted (say, #1 gets 30 points #2 gets 29... all the way to 6 points for #25) and everything below that unweighted, so that all the other votes on a ballot get 5 points?

I'm not sure what the consequences would be for the final results, but it would make counting definitely easier for me. Any thoughts?

ArchCarrier, Sunday, 9 October 2016 08:08 (seven years ago) link

Fine with that. Ranking after 25 in genre polls usually is sort of random. I like voting only for core favorites so the initial plan was to go just top 10 but I can see now that core favorites in this case really is 25 at minimum.

simmel, Sunday, 9 October 2016 11:21 (seven years ago) link

On the other hand, larger ballots might mean boring results. Don't know.

simmel, Sunday, 9 October 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, larger ballots mean people will put consensus "classic albums" in the lower ranks instead of just listing their personal favourites... And with votes from everyone the consensus albums will rise to the top, and #1 will probably be "What's Going On", which does sound boring (and wrong).

Tuomas, Monday, 10 October 2016 06:32 (seven years ago) link

Well, that happens with every big poll: the bottom 75% is usually much more interesting than the top 25%. And by having a minimum of 25, the people who only own five classic soul albums won't be able to vote.

I'm going to set up the voting form right now. Nominations close in less than an hour!

ArchCarrier, Monday, 10 October 2016 06:57 (seven years ago) link

It's going to happen... Here's the

~~~ ILM 1970s SOUL/FUNK/DISCO ALBUMS POLL ~~~ VOTING THREAD

ArchCarrier, Monday, 10 October 2016 07:52 (seven years ago) link

I feel bad that I didn't get back here to nominate James Brown's Hot Pants. Great album. :(

lingereffect (Kent Burt), Monday, 10 October 2016 10:18 (seven years ago) link

Three more days to send in your ballot! Voting closes Sunday night.

VOTE HERE

ArchCarrier, Friday, 14 October 2016 05:54 (seven years ago) link

And we're rolling:

PEOPLE... HOLD ON. It's the ~~~ ILM 1970s SOUL/FUNK/DISCO ALBUMS POLL ~~~ results thread!

ArchCarrier, Monday, 17 October 2016 11:39 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

I know there were only a handful of original members there, but I really enjoyed the Valentines Soul Jam concert I saw February 12th with the Stylistics, Dramatics, Harold Melvin's Blue Notes, and Intruders. Oh I got there a bit late and missed Cuba Gooding Sr.

Some great falsetto, harmonies and group choreographed dance moves. Stylistics and Blue Notes were the most impressive.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 23 February 2017 19:12 (seven years ago) link

TRAX POLL

Headphone Jack (seandalai), Thursday, 23 February 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link

After the emo poll is done, OK?

ArchCarrier, Thursday, 23 February 2017 22:28 (seven years ago) link

sweet :)

Headphone Jack (seandalai), Thursday, 23 February 2017 22:55 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

And here it is:

Papa was a POLLING STONE: It's the 1970s SOUL/FUNK/DISCO ~~~ TRACKS POLL

ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 March 2017 14:56 (seven years ago) link


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