Twitter C/D

Idk, I'd much rather read Adolph Reed than FDB (not that I necessarily agree with either) but the critique of soft-liberal identity politics from the left seems like a useful provocation at times. Whether cranky Marxists are correct is less important than ensuring progressive politics doesn't end up as the endless repetition of woke dogma.

― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Friday, September 16, 2016 2:50 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah I think there is something to this. It's sort of a fine line because some of the stuff fueling the "woke dogma" is very legit, but it can also lead into this terrible maze of individualistic/atomized non-analysis. Also because in this election all that "woke" stuff was pretty quickly coopted by the Clinton campaign and used against Bernie Sanders supporters.

I would follow you marcos! I keep twitter totally separate from my professional life tho
I am @joshuabizabcock

I basically just follow friends, ILx0rs, and the occasional entertaining celebrity account (Ralph Bakshi, Daniel Pinkwater, Sarah Silverman, Julia Wertz etc.) I can handle people that post a million things a day though gtfo with that shit

tweeting constantly is what twitters for actually

tweeting constantly is what twitters for actually

lol

heh

good one very timely

also fwiw imo the discussion the media is having amongst itself rn re how to cover trump is extremely important and may save human civilization from violet collapse, even tho its "the media" criticizing "the media" which i know is hard to understand

it's very important and will not amount to anything because they aren't going to suddenly stop needing ratings/views/clicks

It's also a "discussion" that has been going on for like 9 months now to no avail.

ah yes clickbait lol

it's very important and will not amount to anything because they aren't going to suddenly stop needing ratings/views/clicks

yup

my twitter is good content

still - I look forward to the tweet that saves human civilization from violent collapse, what a glorious tweet that will be, enshrined forever in the annals of human history

clickbait actually --http://www.adweek.com/socialtimes/files/2012/03/twitter-egg-icon.jpg

still - I look forward to the tweet that saves human civilization from violent collapse, what a glorious tweet that will be, enshrined forever in the annals of human history

*cracks knuckles* guess it's time for me to return to twitter

finally techbros will rest contentedly, secure in the knowledge that they have indeed made the world a better place rather than a non-navigable cesspool of misinformation, lies, and racism-filled comment boxes

if you think the medias important you might want to also consider the fact that where they talk amongst themselves cld also be important, or maybe all the ppl itt who are all i dont really use twitter but these are my expert opinion on cld be right

the boilerplate sighing and sarcasm i guess vaguely resembles insight if u squint or close yr eyes altogether

kinda like your mangled sentences

wow so rude

if you think the medias important

― lag∞n, Friday, September 16, 2016 1:45 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no

ok welp lol

me, wise ilxor: posts political opinions on a plain txt msg board that are good
you, stupid tweeter: my grotesque self-regard prevents me from seeing how good msg board threads about mark kozelek b-sides are. also im racist

not sure who I am in that scenario, since I just said I use both platforms...? I just find lagoon's estimation of the importance of media folks' twitter usage overblown.

lets walk through ill do some numbered points for you, feel free to just respond techbro clickbait for extremely good media/tech criticism

1. the president of the usa is allowed to launch nuclear weapons
2. donald trump is very close to becoming the president of the usa
3. donald trump is a very unstable aggressive unwell person who is more likely than prob any other president to start ww3
4. we have a very perfect situation in the middle east for starting ww3 which is likely to provoke him
5. a big part of his rise is the media are unequipped to deal with such a dishonest weird candidate like him, their usual way of covering candidates is giving his craziness cover, he to a certain extent has broken the system
6. while theyve been discussing this problem amongst themselves for a while recently as trump has closed in the polls the discussion has increased greatly in intensity and is showing some signs of bearing fruit
7. twitter is one of the places where that discussion is happening, another place wld be the new york times website, they are both websites and publishing platforms, twitter of course is a lot bigger
8. twitter is not the only publishing platform that has changed the dynamics of the media/race, facebook upended the way nonmedia ppl consume news too

the media is not "unequipped to deal with" Trump it fucking loves him

well thats part of it but not nearly the whole story

i mean u can just be all clickbait abt the whole media and to a certain extent it is a service industry that covers what ppl want to see, but that doesnt nearly explain the entirety of their behavior, as painful as it might be its worth considering that their motivations could be complicated and multifaceted

the interaction of Trump with what were previously irritating but ultimately limited-in-their-harmfulness lapses of judgment by the media (both-sides-ism, toothless fact-checking, allowing media narrative to be sculpted by campaigns and innueno) may bring about the nuclear apocalypse

that is m/l my thesis tho obvs there are nearly infinite other forces at play too

my media change strategy is i've been trying to goad local weather service bureaus into *growing* by making fun of their jpgs.

I don't think covering Trump saying awful stuff is what turns the polls, as people were saying during R primary (look at the enormous drop he took in his post-convention run), so much as a lot of the puff going out in the last week that really normalizes & humanizes him (Fallon, Oz)

i suspect that were going to see generally tougher coverage from here on out because enough of the media is sensible enough to be afraid of a trump presidency and were already approaching never seen before panicked rhetoric from agitators within media landscape

What actually needs to happen is more positive coverage of Hillary and less coverage of Trump period. IDK if it's more the Clinton campaign's or media's fault that this is not happening.

considering that trump represents a specific existential risk to a free press and is explicitly campaigning against them it's pretty silly that they haven't waged outright war on him. they were willing to sell all their principles to make some money off page views, but when it comes to threats to change libel laws, restrict access to press enemies, etc, that's when "both sides of the story" ideologies must be preserved?

and by press i really am mostly thinking of the nyt. wapost hasn't been terrible. nyt has been just the worst. ap, too. npr - not great. all these voices of /neutral/ america.

also have to say ppl scoffing at the power of social media is kinda odd, like yeah it might be often frivolous and bizarre, but these are the largest media companies in the history of the world by far, hundreds of millions of ppl use them (over a billion for facebook), of course theyre extremely influential

I think there's probably something in all of this about the collision of a potentially disastrous election with an "old media" anxious about its continued relevancy and viability and a "new media" still feeling things out.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsfPOAfVMAAf-V6.jpg

https://cdn.meme.am/images/100x100/951.jpg

btw I'm not just talking about "clickbait" here I'm talking about the impulse people seem to have to need to have a take on every single word that comes out of Trump's mouth, while very little gets said about Hillary. I think some of it is just instinctive and internalized -- Trump is good entertainment, and everyone in journalism is, to an extent, trained to look for that, even if s/he also has higher and better aims.

but also closer races are more exciting and better for page views and drive more eyeballs so stories that humanize trump and his supporters + stories that cast suspicion [sometimes warranted, often not] on hillary are good for business

and reporters love stories

of course most of the actual non horse race trump stories remain unreported

last four posts otm

sorry I had a conf call had to exit thread briefly...

it's kind of insane what kind of criminal mastermind hill has been even as she's passing away, murdering DNC staffers and bleaching email servers and what not.

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏)
Posted: September 16, 2016 at 12:34:43 PM
lol flopson I haven't gotten any notifications so either I commented on a dead thread or he's blocked me in some way on fb now

it was a comment about this article: http://thebaffler.com/salvos/degrasse-tyson-kriss-atheists
he somehow missed the point and was complaining that homophobic, racist evangelicals are a much bigger threat than atheists so why are you picking on atheists

lol this comment just popped up on my facebook didnt seem nearly ban worthy, just a polite reasoned argument that disagreed w him wth

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