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I guess people here would mentally divide the country into the Atlantic provinces, Quebec, Ontario, Western Canada (sometimes divided into The Prairies and BC) and the Territories.

as an american with a 'certificate' in canadian studies (!) this seems right to me. i'd definitely separate BC out, and these days probably alberta too, so i guess i'm only combining the maritimes, manitoba/saskatchewan, and the north

mookieproof, Thursday, 15 September 2016 00:58 (seven years ago) link

The use is obv geographically wrong but is culturally accepted.

My American ex-gf had her mind blown when I tried to explain why Sudbury is in Northern Ontario and the University of Western Ontario is in London.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 September 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link

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System, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

gbx's categories are the ones I would use.

Politically, there is a division between Prairies and Ontario/Quebec along the lines of PC vs Liberals, but it's rendered more complex by conservatives in suburban Toronto and white nationalists in Quebec.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 01:01 (seven years ago) link

Quebeckers insistance on this myth of a politically and culturally united ROC is ridiculous. Always felt I have more in common with a vancouverite who listens to hip-hop than a Saguenayan that believes that muslims are ruining their belle province. Cultural lines have shifted since the 80s.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 01:07 (seven years ago) link

Politically, there is a division between Prairies and Ontario/Quebec along the lines of PC vs Liberals, but it's rendered more complex by conservatives in suburban Toronto and white nationalists in Quebec.

Not sure about this. In the last federal election, MB also elected more Liberals like ON and QC. And, between 84 and 2015, QC didn't elect even a plurality of Liberals since the first Trudeau, favouring the NDP in 2011, the BQ from 93 until 2011, and the PCs from 84 until 93. If we're going back that far, or looking at provincial politics, we'd also have to also take into account the NDP in MB and SK. (They obv govern AB atm!)

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 02:48 (seven years ago) link

"And, since the first Trudeau, between 84 and 2015, ..."

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 03:00 (seven years ago) link

Didn't realize Manitoba leaned Liberal so much in the last federal election! I stand corrected, I was thinking of a more historical trends but it sure is isn't as simple as I described.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 05:15 (seven years ago) link

from alberta, ontario, quebec and the maritimes is "eastern canada" -- "let the eastern bastards freeze in the dark" -- and somewhere east of winnipeg is the dividing line. "western canada" is everything west of winnipeg, up to canmore on the #1 and hinton on the #16. beyond the mountains, it's western canada but not really. in alberta, north of fort mcmurray is the north and in saskatchewan north of nipawain is the north. in bc, it would be everything north of prince george or prince rupert.

dylannn, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link

Yep, I know that's the Western perspective, and one I even started to hear people use in (what I'd call) Central Canada. It either means that you need to lump the Atlantic provinces in with Ontario and Quebec as part of one big region, or that you'd have to say that there's a part of Canada that's further east than "Eastern Canada", both of which seem crazy to me. (Presumably, lumping Vancouver in with Regina also seems crazy to some people.)

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link

what dylan said is what i grew up "intuitively" thinking but as i got older and thought to rationalize it, it felt wrong to me. but i understand it's a pretty common perspective

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link

Is there a common name for the ... land protrusion of Ontario that London, Brantford, Tornoto et. al sit on?

I guess it's a peninsula since you have to cross water on three sides to get anywhere else, but it doesn't look like one.

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