pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su4ZsUDJWcQ

The weirdest thing about that review was that it's based on the idea that a rap group doing afrofuturism is an incredibly out there idea. It even mentions P-funk, as if half the Parliament albums weren't space musicals.

that's not even in his top 250 most watched videos xp

i was referring to the idea of pitchfork doing a "Best italian albums" list compared to one that has BTS Modest Mouse and Elliott in their top 10. of course they review weirdo stuff; i wasn't debating that.

i didn't notice the comment about clipping before i posted that until just now.

i like conde nast pitchfork. so much content. lists. i like this http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1286-slacking-about-maybe-reviewing-the-new-lady-gaga-single/

Honestly, that felt more like good ole fashioned turn of the Century Pitchfork, except that it would have been published as an actual review instead of in a separate section, and it would have been a fictionalized conversation written by one person.

RIP Brent DiCrescenzo

IlXoorrrr goodness:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/22255-caetano-veloso/

I loved that review, though the standouts of the first wave of tropicalia records are the first Gilberto Gil and Panes et Circenses. Still, listened to Tropicalia after reading, and yeah, it did sound better than normal. Oh, Irene wasn't made in London, btw. I think the review meant to link to the third s/t, A Little More Blue.

First off, ask yourself why you want to book a festival. There are tons of festivals, more than anyone needs. What will make yours different? Meditate on this. Think about Altamont.

http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1242-how-to-organize-your-own-music-festival/

If you book Kanye West, make sure to get all the stuff on his rider.

Am I the only one who thinks that piece is ... an enormous conflict of interest?

kind of amazed he rented only one Porta Potty for his first festival, an event that attracted 1000 people to his parents' farm.

Like when Brandon worked there and Pitchfork sponsored the festival, Basilica was obviously part and parcel of the editorial vision of the site and their events

But now that he's left, that piece is basically "Dear 3 million Twitter followers, my cool friend puts on a regional festival"

a conflict of interest? at Pitchfork?!?

*clutches pearls*

journalism ethics is for gen x, man, here's the oral history of 285 kent

i think he accidentally copy and pasted the cover letter for his job application to AEG Live into his article submission email.

point missed, Whiney. Pfork is wall-to-wall conflicts of interest and has been for years

Once all of this is set, you’ll need to promote the festival on social media. You may also want to organize a street team to hang up physical flyers. Even with the internet, these are still really useful. As the festival date gets closer, switch up your promotional tactics a bit so people still pay attention. If you use the same approach each time, it’s easy for people to tune it out. See if any of the artists are up to tweeting the info or doing interviews. Speaking of which, if you have the money, you may want to hire a publicist.

lol great advice.

who is this article for? DIY/punks who want to put on a show but don't know how to deal w all the hospitality riders independent bands are known for? professional promoters who are buying shit for Kanye and yet need to be told to hire a publicist?

as a publicist who works with music festival, let me tell you that many people/companies do not heed that advice!

which? catering or publicist

both!

NB: I am not defending this article I haven't read.
*reads article*

okay, to state the obvious: that article is not meant as a how-to for actual potential festival bookers. it's schtick meant for people who would discuss booking a festival over brunch, take a few meetings, get in touch with someone else's cousin who works for Bowery and then let the whole mess fizzle away when a "very important backer" doesn't come through. More to the point, yes, it's an ad for dude-who-was-a-staff-writer-at-Pitchfork's music festival.

i lolled at "hire a good sound person".

I mean, I'm not a promoter or a publicist, but as a guy who covered a mid-sized music scene for many years, let me tell you that ALMOST ZERO promoters, event organizers, venue owners or bands know how to properly promote a show. Most could learn *something* from this.

But yes, it's a weird ad for Basilica.

i lolled at "hire a good sound person".

― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:44 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you mean "Also, hire a good sound person." a sentence brought in like a last minute idea. helpfully, the paragraph this kicks off really explores what to consider when hiring said good sound person:

Also, hire a good sound person. If you don’t know a sound person or anyone who can help with tech riders, and you’re starting to get nervous about all of this, then hire a production company. You can stick to your role as “curator,” and they’ll do all the other stuff.

i mean why not just hire someone to do the entire thing? you obviously have the money to throw around.

Maybe you’re the person who hasn’t quite made up their mind up about Led Zeppelin. That’s fine but fair warning, the band is the apotheosis of overstuffed arena rock, from private jets to strong-arming managers to personal excess in every musical, sexual, and philosophical front. Lester Bangs wanted to chuck pies at them in defense of Truth and/or Iggy Pop. Hammer of the Gods depicted them as decadent goons and tried to make that seem admirable. Yo La Tengo’s “Sugarcube” video, without even needing to name them, reduced their lyrical and aesthetic sensibilities to an interest in “where the hobbits dwell.” If you’re a young music head who shuns rockism, appropriation, and womanizing as loathsome retrograde traits to be avoided, being into Zep means your faves don’t come more problematic.

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From a present-day perspective, where big-time arena-filling rock has settled on Muse, Foo Fighters, and 5 Seconds of Summer, diving headlong into the ’69/’71 timeframe of the band that most necessitated the obnoxious yet fitting phrase “Rock Gods” might otherwise feel like history homework.

this reads like a weird, outdated framing of how people think of led zeppelin. it feels like they have been accepted as cool rock canon now? like lester bangs, hammer of the gods, and "sugarcube" are all very old perspectives for arguing that led zeppelin are uncool or avoided for being "problematic."

Yeah, that part didn't sit well with me, either, but I will concede that the review (which i thought was well-written) did actually make me want to buy the new remaster (and I have two copies of the original version).

led zeppelin is a good band, in fact i'm looking into having a LZ reunion play at the Sh@kedown Street '16, a new music festival/block party i'm putting on at my house

if anyone knows a good sound guy lmk i know led zep as i like to call them are a bit particular about their stage sound

led zep is playing at my house, my house

Led Zeppelin reunited in my kitchen the other night, but my wife and kids complained and told me to turn it down.

If you’re a young music head who shuns rockism, appropriation, and womanizing as loathsome retrograde traits to be avoided, good luck ever enjoying 90% of all music

If you're a young music head, Fantano is thataway

whiney Anthony Fantano is your Chief Keef

Eww. Those are terrible directions for young music heads.

if you're a young music head who watches old yo la tengo videos

MTV2 Classic

Achilles' Last Stand motherfucker
they didn't steal any riffs for that one
right?

think that one has a william blake riff

http://ragecomics.com/-img/5013edff186133354b0000ae.jpg

pitchfork is a weird place these days, lots of new & young artists obv but like the other day i saw about three different jack white headlines on the same day, scrolling down i thought wow they've been covering some of these artists for like 20 years now, do passionate millennial males still care about jack white and yo la tengo

thanks thread for introducing me to anthony fantano, i literally could not listen to him speak for more than 10 seconds

you haven't heard of that dude before??!?!

but yea

i literally could not listen to him speak for more than 10 seconds

this was the line that stood out to me:

Still, rock dorks were tangling with this issue long before any of us, and in the context of reckoning with Led Zeppelin—especially as an oft-bootlegged yet still elusive live-band document—the official two-disc release of BBC Sessions in 1997 felt like a moment of clarity.

i think p4k is just as good as ever, i.e. really good

the direction of the site is trying to two things at once:

1. aging along with the generation that grew up reading the site (will read Jack White news) and keeping a grip on older-gen beardos (who read Yo La Tengo news)

2. maintaining dominance over current music, catering to and anticipating the tastes of younger millenials (the oft-noted shift in focus to electronic music, r&b, etc)

I kind of hope they fail at #2 just because i'd love to see what comes next. But they're pretty smart and good at what they do so I'm not counting on it. and it certainly won't be Noisey or some bullshit that ousts them

the direction of the site is trying to two things at once:

lol apologies for this mangled twice half-rewritten fragment

Is Fantano the review guy from youtube who pulls faces? Avoiding hearing him speak is one of my crowning achievements from the last couple of years