Star Trek Beyond

I totally agree except the movie sucked.

haha well there ya go

I admit that by the last big battle sequence I basically didn't give a fuck about the central conflict/threat/whatever of course Kirk was gonna get saved by Bones and Spock duh

Just experienced a nerd self-backpat from the picture above: "Ruk!"

I disagree and this movie sucked

Good post, Shakey.

"i liked this movie that got me thinking what i like about trek is everything this movie ignored" dumbass

Who are you addressing?

Justin Lin

I was p clear that this movie *did* emphasize what i like about trek - the multiculturalism, space utopias (what else would you call the yorktown? It was basically a mccall painting), the crew/cast's commitment to each other, the humor.

Xp

yorktown was like they were fighting & chasing inside an escher drawing

but i still dug it

it's very diluted star trek, though for some reason that doesn't bug me as much as it should

Liked this movie for the most part. I like these characters, but I don't love them like the originals.

The main thing that bugged me was calling the starbase 'Yorktown'. That was the original name for the Enterprise in Roddenberry's proposal to NBC and is mentioned in the show and is assumed to be comparable to Enterprise. They're both named after WWII era carriers. The original ocean-going Yorktown was named after the American Revolutionary War battle. This all made sense in the mid-60s pitching an American show to an American network during the Cold War.

I'm sure Pegg (or whoever) meant it as a nerdy tribute, but calling a stationary base "Yorktown" is very wrong (and something Roddenberry would have never allowed!). Also, it seems like the base is a testament to the cosmopolitan nature of the Federation, so why would it be named after an old earth battle?

Also, it was too big. The recent movies always get the scales wrong. The earth starbase in the TOS films was huge but conceivable. Yorktown is SOOO big.

Finally, why is it "commanded" by a Starfleet admiral? It would seem that millions of people should have an elected governor at least.

because the federation is basically a military dictatorship

Speculative revisionism!

Oh dear, this wasn't very good, was it?

In the end, I think I preferred the ambitious claptrap of Into Darkness than this cover band greatest hits version of Trek. Anyway - TV show in a couple months, so who cares.

This was entirely unmemorable, Karl Urban is starting to piss me off with his almost parodic performance, and they stole the "classical music" joke almost verbatim from Futurama.

I have retained very little memory of this movie.

This year's laudable 'enterprise' rocketed past every reheated rehash you've seen before. One of America's most able directors effortlessly applying his artistic legerdemain. Legendary, ostensibly what every enthusiast needed.

I very much doubt they're going to do another one of these, and I guess I'm fine with that.

"classical music" joke was also in a 1965 episode of Doctor Who where they watch the Beatles on a tardis TV.

I watched this (ST Beyond) last night. It had about enough plot to fill a smallish teacup and the characters had nothing of interest to do, except insofar as being in danger and fighting will seem to be interesting for a while, just because we all have monkey brains. This movie is what the word shite was coined to describe.

Are the plot holes big enough to fit a space station? yes!

Are the characters totally basic? yes!

Did I care? nope. I'm probably going to watch it again so I can give it the proper praise it deserves. Justin Lin directing a sci-fi action movie written by Simon Pegg is very much what I hoped it would be.

tombot otm

love the 70s-paperback-cover look of this movie

oh I said that upthread before

me otm, i guess

yeah this was totally enjoyable

yeah i dug it

I skipped the Khan reboot one, not sure if I prefer this to the first film but it's possible

khan reboot was kind of a chore imo

It was trash, the most joyless Trek ever

I've never liked Cumberbatch, but once the plot details started to leak I was like wtf no

This is definitely my favorite of the three. Veggies OTM re #2. I also think one of the strengths of this one is not leaning so much on the Spork dynamic and letting some of the other characters breathe, as thin as they all may be.

Way better than the second movie but still kind of dull, I thought.

Not trying to challops but I think Quinto is *terrible* as Spock. There's too much anger in the character - it's a boring acting choice. I just kind of want the movies to be 2hrs of Kirk.

yeah i'm not really a fan of his portrayal, it completely whiffs on the dry, intellectual side of Spock.

the alternate timeline shit is needlessly complicated, too.

needlessly complicated or... opportunity for comicsplaining?
https://i.imgur.com/PU39xHA.png

crisis on infinite cumberpatch

I love #3, and I love #1 ...that Khan nonsense never happened as far as I'm concerned.

I mentioned this upthread but Mr Veg said something I think about a lot w/r/t these movies. He likes the reboots well enough, but he feels like the reboots work overtime to make the look and the tone feel like Star Trek but it bugs him the way they steer clear of any of the depth of content that Rodenberry brought to the series. Like there's no real science or social issues, there's no 'there' there.

I blame JJ Abrams; I've always felt like he just liked the clothes and the spaceships of Star Trek but thought the content was too nerdy

(and I am generally a fan of Abrams)

Agreed on those pts

Abrams is a fan-fiction writer given unlimited studio resources.

The opposite, I'd have thought? Fan-fiction writers care A LOT.

Like there's no real science or social issues, there's no 'there' there.

Totally - Super 8 the same: all the Spielberg signifiers, none of the depth. Even the TOS and TNG movies, gaudy as they are, are still "about something" while still working as silly sci-if action movies

no way! i loved the kids in Super 8.

ST Beyond was written by a fan fiction dork, though, which is why it's a fucking blast.

The whole setup to get to the sabotage bit is A++++ trek dialogue for all time, btw, startling from when hears "lassie" say the word bees

... from when Spock hears her say "bees"... derp phone

New series debuts tmrw, btw

yes and Star Trek: The Bryan Fuller TV reboot

Finally watched this, and it's not half-bad (the Spock/McCoy scenes particularly)! The half that is bad pretty much involves the bad aliens, who have a LOT of similarities with the nu-Klingons on Discovery.

It's almost as if they... sabotaged themselves.