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that's the idea. they don't want you to use a different wire. they want you to stop using wires.

what is an "exposed connector"?

that was xp

Trying to figure out how that's going to look/work coming out of a single lightning jack.

Think of it as attaching to the end of the cable, not the iPhone.

Alleged photo here:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/08/31/alleged-iphone-7-packaging-reaffirms-32gb-model-lightning-to-headphone-jack-adapter-in-the-box

I hate this idea so much.

what is an "exposed connector"?

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, September 2, 2016 10:46 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't know the technical term, but on a lightning connector, the actual part of the connector that makes contact/conducts power and data is directly exposed, whereas in something like a USB cable it's shielded.

xp oh god that is awful. So you can't listen on headphones while charging?

I really am starting to think that the Company's product design is suffering without Jobs.

They'd better have at least improved battery life, I'm starting to require two full charges per 24 hours.

I don't know the technical term, but on a lightning connector, the actual part of the connector that makes contact/conducts power and data is directly exposed, whereas in something like a USB cable it's shielded.

― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, September 2, 2016 11:54 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so like a headphone jack?

the headphone jack thing is my dealbreaker.

It's frustrating, because Android still totally sucks, but yeah - what's with all of the dongles?

oh god that is awful. So you can't listen on headphones while charging?

Yeah, this seems to be the key drawback. Maybe Apple will do special headphones that let you daisy-chain to a power source, ha ha.

so like a headphone jack?

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, September 2, 2016 11:00 AM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

for whatever reason, headphone jacks seem to last decades and lightning cables last like a year. The Amazon Basics cables I bought stopped working in about 6 months.

I mainly use bluetooth headphones now, but yeah, charging sucks.

tbf, as it is I sometimes just use a bluetooth speaker when I charge my phone because charging and headphones at the same time is already annoying. But at least a bluetooth speaker can stay plugged into the wall.

lightning cables get a lot of abuse (a ton more than regular USB which only get used in the home, and then only rarely). they're no more or less robust than what preceded them, or the micro usbs on android phones, etc. in my experience.

just saying this again: apple doesn't want you to switch to lightning headphones. they want you to stop using cables. they didn't get rid of floppy drives to encourage you to use zipdisk.

also if you keep breaking amazon basics cables then get these https://www.amazon.com/iPhone-charger-Anker-Lightning-Certified/dp/B00K4VQZCM/ref=sr_1_11?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1472833328&sr=1-11. they're the ones wirecutter recommended based on a ridiculous teardown of the construction. they're the same price as amazon basics.

ok but charging them in addition to charging the phone 1, 2x per day, is uncool

the wires on headphones do suck though, mine are always getting caught in turnstiles on public trans etc

Apple also wants you to use icloud but I hate icloud.

It's good now

I'm super jazzed to annoy my friends with iMessage stickers and embeds and whatever other bullshit they add

The only reason I've stayed wedded to iPhone is bc I spend an inordinate amount of time composing music/making synth patches on it, and androids os has inherent latency issues. Android please fix your latency issues before I have to face this jackless future.

Despite a lot of abuse (thrown in bags, the device end is often dangling on to my unswept floor, the cat has been playing with one of them) I've had zero lightning cables die

btw the new iMessage is very good imo, although I might be biased in that it auto-expands twitter urls into the little tweet summary which is what I want

i have had zero lightning cables die, but i somehow short out/break approx 2 pairs of earbuds per year, bring on the shiny evil future i say

I've had a lot more wired headphones die than I have lightening cables.

the headphone jack thing is my dealbreaker.

this plus the obstinately high cost of apple stuff. i'm breaking an eight year streak and jumping to android in a couple of months. phones like the 6p and oneplus 3 are great value, and marshmallow and nougat are very very good (ios 9 still can't do copy & paste properly ffs).

I've had a lot more wired headphones die than I have lightening cables.

but at least we have the choice for now. it's fine for apple to say "wireless is better, we did this thing with a locked-off wireless standard OH AND LOOK we just happen to own an overpriced headphone brand" but i still want to be able to plug in my speakers and devices that'll last another few years.

it's hard to see a lot of this as anything other than desperate plays to keep apple's share price insanely high. is anyone asking for massively thin phones? not really. do people hate headphone cables? sure, but not so much as to dive into (what i assume will be) a tightly controlled proprietary spec that will inflate the cost of wireless headphones (cf. certified lightning cables v microusb cables).

that said these things will fly off shelves

people do want thinner phones tho

some always will, but a lot of people are happy with thin enough, and many would prefer things like a few hours' more battery or a headphone jack

listened to music on my phone the whole work day the other day using headphones that were not connected to my phone, despite being from the 90s

hope apple has a lil wireless dongle like the bluetooth one I have, it's pretty sweet

I get the need for having headphones that don't need batteries and work instantly w/out pairing or w/e but if I had a nickel for every time I moved my head the wrong way and my phone flew off the desk, or I got my headphones cable stuck on my desk chair armrest and ripped them out of my ears, I would have a few sodas now

Latency is my fear. I like to use my iPhone for music-making, and I'm nervous this is gonna screw it up. Plus I don't want more dongles. It's a total joke how Apple thinks they're these visionaries, removing connectors, liberating us all from wires, when the reality is that now everyone has to have all these docks and dongles.

people do want thinner phones tho

― Spottie, Friday, September 2, 2016 6:21 PM (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rly?? They have become thin enough to be a nuisance at this point; it seems v strange that people would prioritize increased thinness (on an already extremely thin product) over improved battery life or other features. Like I put a case on mine deliberately to make it thicker.

I wouldn't mind a bit thinner. Purely vanity, I still get the phone outline in my pants pocket.

yeah, it's a phone in your pants pocket; at what thinness will a phone not give you an outline?

Just looking for less! Until we get to nothing in 2023.

Jeff's still in denial about his tight pants addiction. I'm here for you, buddy

Latency is my fear.

also if you keep breaking amazon basics cables then get these https://www.amazon.com/iPhone-charger-Anker-Lightning-Certified/dp/B00K4VQZCM/ref=sr_1_11?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1472833328&sr=1-11. they're the ones wirecutter recommended based on a ridiculous teardown of the construction. they're the same price as amazon basics.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, September 2, 2016 12:26 PM (four days ago) Bookmark

lol these look like they were made in the same factory

I've had both, the anker ones are nice

idk if "same factory" means anything when some of the factories are buildings the size of a small town

A bit of crow to eat but I'm beginning to suspect my problem with cables was partly just that the charging port needed cleaning, and maybe the apple cables are just slightly more conductive or something so that they weren't affected as bad by all the dirt in there.

idk if "same factory" means anything when some of the factories are buildings the size of a small town

― dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:38 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark

are you trying to chinasplain me

http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/06/apple-bluetooth-earbud-plans/

I'm all for whatever Apple tells me to do with headphones, I'll just comply. But my biggest problem is their earbuds/pods/whatever never fit in my ears. They just all fall out within about 3 seconds, completely useless. I'd gladly use them if they had some interchangeable sizes.

i'm all about the earphones with comply foam tips. it's kind of a standard?

totally chinasplaining at 龜 now, going to get demolished

The only kind of earbuds that stay in for me are the workout kind with the rubber tips and earclip thingies.