usual comprehensive obit/interview roundup
https://www.fandor.com/keyframe/daily-gene-wilder-1933-2016
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link
yeah no way would Pryor have been better in BS sorry. i was baffled growing up as to why Little wasn't in a ton more stuff.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 22:45 (seven years ago) link
And only lasted one season in, what was the hospital situation dramedy with James Whitmore, Temperature's Rising?
― Planking Full Stop (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link
The most surprising thing about Blazing Saddles, for me, when I finally watched it about 10 or so years ago was how honestly moving Wilder's performance is.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 23:07 (seven years ago) link
Totally. Just watched the Waco kid monologue on YouTube, and it's so effortless, just the perfect combination of stupid, funny, cool and sad.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 12:11 (seven years ago) link
on Fresh Air, Wilder said when he went to read for The Producers with Mostel (who had casting approval), Zero greeted him wth a big sloppy kiss.
also the Silver Streak blackface-scene rewrite (also in the recent Pryor bio) is a great story.
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link
I think the "You know... morons" line would land better if Bart didn't laugh at it, but that would be Pryor style and not Little.― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 20:12 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 20:12 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This, and the "I shoot with this hand" is The Waco Kid telling jokes. Last time I looked, imdb had it in 'Goofs' as ".. But he shoots perfectly" well, its a joke in it?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link
when people say funny things in comedies, depending on the context, the other characters don't have to laugh.
(Bart is supposed to be freshly traumatized from that old lady saying "Up yours, ******", which calls into question his experiences as a black man in the West of the 1870s, if you wanna get naturalistic about it)
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 20:25 (seven years ago) link
btw tom'w night Mel Brooks is appearing at Radio City Music Hall following a screening of Saddles.
cheapest tix: $70
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link
Sold out I heard!
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 1 September 2016 03:27 (seven years ago) link
sure, the Death Bump! just like Scharpling's pricing at the old FMU record fairs
That was a weird show, that replaced Whitmore with... Paul Lynde.
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 September 2016 04:13 (seven years ago) link
C'mon, the scene of Bart breaking at Wilder's "morons" adlib is adorable.
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 1 September 2016 14:15 (seven years ago) link
this is fabulous if you haven't seen it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geluLZ-S21Q
― piscesx, Thursday, 1 September 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link
The blu's of The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother and Haunted Honeymoon have had their release bumped up to next week in light of Wilder's passing, and I'm guessing my library will get them. I'm pretty sure I saw bits of HH as a kid, and didn't even think it was funny then, but how is Sherlock?
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Thursday, 1 September 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHmsRBeiSTw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekmo8EacU70
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 1 September 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link
I remember the reviews of 'smarter' being lousy, then seeing the movie and thought it 'great' and 'nothing wrong with it', that'd be 40 years ago or thereabouts
― Mark G, Thursday, 1 September 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link
fwiw I loved The Frisco Kid as a kid, kind of want to re-watch it and see if it holds up.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 1 September 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link
TCM showing Young Frankenstein, Start the Revolution Without Me, The Frisco Kid, Bonnie and Clyde and a 2008 convo between Wilder and Alec Baldwin tonight.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Thursday, 29 September 2016 14:06 (seven years ago) link
Did Wilder direct Haunted Honeymoon? That is a terrible movie that I will absolutely watch again.
― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:48 PM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Friday, 11 November 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link
i rewatched Woody's Everything About Sex last night. I still believe Wilder loved that sheep.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2016 02:50 (seven years ago) link
Looked at Silver Streak again today, and man it stinks, with the exception of the shoe-polish scene Pryor rewrote, and the one where RP poses as a steward and turns the tables on Patrick McGoohan right after PM blurts out the N-word at him. Otherwise it's a superlame North by Northwest ripoff. Not even Wilder's charm gets employed much, and Jill Clayburgh is just The Girl.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 25 February 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link
Yeah silver streak sucksSo does stir crazyThere's no gainsaying it.
― Cognition (Remix) (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 25 February 2017 21:18 (seven years ago) link
yeah i got suckered into Silver Streak on Netflix, man was that a mess. Wilder and Pryor are very likeable, I'll give it that, but it's really without structure, like they just kept filming and figured "I'm sure we'll start having ideas for scenes soon!" Not too many worthwhile jokes either, and very little of what happens really depends on the characters. I will say most of the effects at the end are pretty good, except one really obvious composite shot, but why this comedy winds up with a giant setpiece like that is beyond me.
― tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 4 March 2017 21:34 (seven years ago) link
I have an irrational, sentimental love for Silver Streak - it got repeated on British TV all the time when I was very young, and was my first "favourite movie" (along with Superman II, probably). I rewatched it a few months ago and really enjoyed it. I mean, obviously it's not a classic, and Wilder's seduction of Clayburgh is a hilariously awful - but there's lots of good stuff outside of the Pryor scenes: Ned Beatty being a jerk, and then a hero, and then dead; Wilder getting thrown off the train for the second time; the fight with Jaws (!); the train crash; McGoohan's grisly death. It's "adult" but totally simple - a great movie for kids, basically.
Also (retrospectively) the farewell scene between Wilder and Pryror at the police station is quite moving. ("If you ever need anything, don't call me.")
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 4 March 2017 23:08 (seven years ago) link
Start the Revolution Without Me predates the genre spoofs of Mel Brooks by a few years, and feels like something of a dry run for those as a result; TV vet Bud Yorkin doesn't have Brooks' precision, and quite a few of the gags here feel a little too... obviously carefully crafted, I guess, to have the exhilaration of great comic filmmaking. But Wilder is never funnier than whenever he's trying to work his way through an awkward/tense situation, and there are plenty of those here, and I appreciated the takedown of the laboured metaphorical dialogue typical of historical epics ("To pull the tail of a lion is to open the mouth of trouble and reveal the teeth of revenge biting the tongue of deceit"). Also, Hugh Griffith's performance as King Louis is an unexpected marvel: he's genuinely endearing, and far more poignant than the film requires.
― Herman Woke (cryptosicko), Saturday, 10 August 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link