PINK FLOYD

like i'm not "lyrics never matter" but if you privilege their deep meaningfulness over how music sounds then go and read a book or something

Waters was absolutely Floyd's auteur, it is well documented that none of the others contributed squat post DSotM

The point I was making is that it's better to watch lyrics sung by the dude who wrote them rather than the bloke who didn't

anyway I think I'll take your advice and go read a book

maybe think about any exceptions in the history of music to "i'd rather listen to the lyricist sing"

No-one cares about Cole Porters singing voice.

noone alive has heard Lorenzo da Ponte's

while i get all the waters hate here, particularly when he keeps saying stupid shit in public, i also think it's kind of ridiculous. ooooh, he's not really a very good musician or singer! boy that's a stinging indictment when it comes to rock music.

gilmour has a nice guitar tone and all but you go to see him in concert and he'll play the song he wrote based on parisian mass transit jingles. he's also more likely to dig up something like "childhood's end", mind, so that's in his favor, but he's pleasant to the point of being dull.

The only one I'd pay to see these days is Nick.

Wrt post dsotm contributions it's well documented on the fun Floyd thread that gilmour contributed v good music and dreadful lyrics to comfortably numb

Oh sry, I guess this isthefun thread

PINK FLOYD RULES

Comfortably Numb 's lyrics are fine, there are some weird opinions on this board

the dreadful lyrics (you mean "the doctor", right?) were waters. his second draft was better.

lol jeez what did i start! sorry guys. PINK FLOYD RULES.

i have seen Rog live before & it was pretty ace. i don't have that all that much beef with him tbh. besides, this'll be my cheapest Rog ticket by far so who's complaining :D

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I think it's time to get this thread back in shape by reminding ourselves that Pink Floyd can fly and therefore RULES

:D

Reducing Floyd to post DSotM is, um, reductive

"I'd rather hear Floyd songs sung by the person who wrote them"

gilmore wrote plenty of good floyd songs

I'd rather hear pre-DSOTM anyway.
Glad to have a pile of the live stuff from the early years.

Really good to hear that Paradiso '69 set Celestial Instruments which I'd been missing up to last night.
Thought I'd picked up about one of every gig that went out in a torrent war a couple of years back. But somehopw hadn't got that.
Does sound fantastic though, presumably soundboard though vocal-less apart from the bit of Astronomy Domine that bled into the drum mic.
the Copenhagen '67 set sounds like something people should be exposed to if they're remotely into distorto guitar rock stuff. Seems much more aggressive than I think one would immediately think of Barrett era Floyd sounding.

gilmore wrote plenty of good floyd songs

The music, yes. The lyrics, no.

does anyone have that box set with a zillion gajillion discs (CDs, DVDs, Blu-Rays) of stuff from the syd barrett era? it's like $600, so i can't afford it, but it looks rather incredible.

have to admit that the only floyd albums i unreservedly adore are the two with contributions from barrett. so i guess i'm "that guy" on every floyd thread.

syd's rad, and he's a huge part of floyd. i get it. i love syd!

That box set drops in November.

ah, for some reason i thought it came out this month.

Richard Wright gets left out of Floyd fighting every time alas.

Box set also comes out as 6 individual sets some time next year. Not sure when. & hoping price is reasonable. People have said the full box is a bit steep compared to say King Crimson's ones with comprehensive coverage of particular eras.
Also it is feared that the 7th set which is exclusive to the full box won't have great sound. That's the one with Syd Bbc sessions.

Was Richard Wright Pink Floyd's second best song-writer (after Syd)?

Pink Floyd's Richard Wright, forgotten genius?

even if we're sticking to his best-loved work, come on, "fearless" (gilmour/waters) vs. "summer '68" (wright)?

Fearless is overrated. I'll take Summer '68.

walk alone then

^^^ <3 u mookie

i love rick, but he strikes me less as a harrison-style "dark horse" and more as a carl wilson type. "long promised road" and "feel flows" are both really good songs, but by no means would i call carl one of the pre-eminent songwriting talents of that band, and with those two solo albums of his the bad far outweighs the good in his catalog.

and even the good.. the scarcity of his songwriting contributions for the band does a little to mask his fairly limited range as a songwriter. he wrote about drinking and one-night stands and had an inexplicably fondness for that "ADRINKADRINK" kind of riff, all awkward chords and unappealing quiet-loud contrasts. when he wasn't doing that, or his damn "turkish delite" riff, he would do songs like "stay", which i like, it's fine soft rock, but you know, it's no "motel blues". hell, it's not even mark eric.

rick also had, for most of his life, the problem that he didn't feel comfortable singing lead live. given that he was in a band with roger waters this is clearly a psychological and not a musical issue, but a lot of floyd's songs took flight in concert. as leaden as waters' pastoral folk stuff like "grantchester meadows" could sound on record, when they went on kqed and waters and gilmour dueted on it the song was much improved. same thing with gilmour's "fat old sun" - just fantastic in concert.

or his damn "turkish delite" riff

>:[

He seemed to lack self confidence in his musical abilities, and it seems like his bandmates didn't do much to discourage from that viewpoint.

https://youtu.be/WnlnlWSdoIY

Rave master matrix

Hey everyone

...

I like The Endless River

And why shouldn't you? It's a decent album.

I've only listened to it a couple of times... that it doesn't touch the '70s classics is a given, but I actually preferred it to The Division Bell and A Momentary Lapse of Reason.

Does anyone have a copy of the rave master matrix bootleg?

xxpost, i feel like ppl really shit on it? maybe that was just my perception. obv a little ponderous in places but some of it reminds me of obscured by clouds a bit and gets as trippy in places as they were in years

that matrix sounds like it rules. looks like someone has posted a link to flac files in the youtube comments fyi.
i thought endless river sounded good at the time, but was a little too reference-y to Great Moments Of Pink Floyd's Past. should check it out again.

here's the link for the FLACs, it's still active: http://www.filefactory.com/file/c421f83/n/PF750618BosGarMat-flc.rar

Rave master is Boston, June 18, 1975

just listened to side one of Saucerful of Secrets really loud on my new turntable. it sounded great until those damn kazoos started up. Corporal Clegg is a cool noise rock song but the two multi-kazoo interludes are TMI.

Got thirteen channels of shit on the tv to choose from

something so right about this
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decided to give "momentary lapse of reason" a go

haven't listened to this for a long, long time

i will always love "learning to fly", big childhood nostalgia, probably the second pink floyd song i was aware of (first being another brick in the wall)

this sax man goes mildly ham at the end of the dogs of war

Tylerw -- had the same reaction you did.