Loads of strange things. Very strange things. Will talk about it later.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, 27 August 2016 02:17 (seven years ago) link
cupcakes ffs
― chicken lit (rip van wanko), Saturday, 27 August 2016 03:38 (seven years ago) link
Cupcakes rule fuiud
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 27 August 2016 05:50 (seven years ago) link
kale haters : fine but do you even know about lambs quarters? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenopodium_album you probaly throw it away
― SΓ©bastien, Saturday, 27 August 2016 06:49 (seven years ago) link
Archaeologists analysing carbonized plant remains found in storage pits and ovens at Iron Age, Viking Age, and Roman sites in Europe have found its seeds mixed with conventional grains and even inside the stomachs of Danish bog bodies.
danish bog bodies is a killer band name
― it's sort of a layered stunt (sheesh), Saturday, 27 August 2016 07:09 (seven years ago) link
Still think its autotune vocals.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 29 August 2016 03:22 (seven years ago) link
that slowed down white person trying to sing like billie holiday style of cover song thats on every commercial.
arrrhghtgh, I go to a yoga class each week where the instructor insists on playing nothing but sad sack, white guy songs while we exercise. Last week, she one-upped herself by playing an entire mix of mopey acoustic covers of popular songs. In what universe is it preferable to listen to a sad cover of "Billie Jean" instead of the original?!?
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 29 August 2016 03:42 (seven years ago) link
agree in principle, but in practice i will rep for caetano's version
― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Monday, 29 August 2016 05:20 (seven years ago) link
In the upthread post regarding early-1960s cosplay, blogger Belated Nerd is begging for any info as to what became of Sylvia Dees. I could fill him or her in if only all means of posting comments there or otherwise sending a message weren't blocked....
― Lee626, Monday, 29 August 2016 08:15 (seven years ago) link
well, until we can get a hold of the belated nerd, don't leave the rest of us in undue suspense!
what became of Sylvia Dees?
― it's sort of a layered stunt (sheesh), Monday, 29 August 2016 08:36 (seven years ago) link
Went nutz
― poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2016 08:47 (seven years ago) link
Last post on that blog was in early 2012. I'm assuming it's been abandoned.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 29 August 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link
-Marketing people using "brand" as a noun
-marketingspeak leeching into normal conversations such that non-marketing people toss around "brand" or "brands" as nouns
― Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Monday, 29 August 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link
lots of jargon leaking into normal conversation changing tense, but I don't think that one is at all new
― mh π, Monday, 29 August 2016 16:19 (seven years ago) link
Wait what? When was brand not used as a noun
Xp
― meh π (wins), Monday, 29 August 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link
"Brand x", &c. Literally been around my entire life
yeah, iirc it has to do with branding cattle, which was actually pressing a mark on to, say, a cow to show ownership
people buying cattle at market might refer to a "trusted brand" if they knew the animals coming from one farmer were good, so multiple sources would be "trusted brands"
― mh π, Monday, 29 August 2016 16:23 (seven years ago) link
"branding" as in defining some sort of nebulous value system around the idea of a company or name is newer, but it originally referred to the act of pressing said mark on a product
― mh π, Monday, 29 August 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, I know the historical origins, I think the annoying aspect is just the marketing jargon getting tossed around. This I posit as a worse development than corporate officespeak permeating all aspects of 21st-C Western life.
― Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Monday, 29 August 2016 16:30 (seven years ago) link
not the worst, but I read the opinion that the conversational stance of gen x was of assuming knowledge, and the new trend is these pieces from complete supposed naivety
if someone spoke about a band or film director then, whether you knew anything or not, the stance is that you have to convey that you know about the topic and everyone is assumed to "know" things and their place in some historical or significant context. music and film reviews with necessary references to older work, how things fit in canon, what the producer also worked on, and so on
the new thinkpiece trend is those articles where some college kid has never heard de la soul or never seen some important work and writes from a completely naive standpoint and it becomes clickbait
imo the latter is better because it means late night television hosts can stop doing these man on the street bits where they ask concertgoers if they know about fake band names and then clown people for pretending to know about some shit the questioner just made up
― mh π, Monday, 29 August 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link
my own least favorite corporatespeak is "visioning" which isn't new but has come to new heightshttps://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=15&smoothing=7&case_insensitive=on&content=visioning&direct_url=t4%3B%2Cvisioning%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bvisioning%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BVisioning%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BVISIONING%3B%2Cc0
― mh π, Monday, 29 August 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link
Have definitely read those, and yeah, they seem designed as clickbait, specifically because they rankle people who have already invested in the idea that what they know about a particular topic is correct and accepted and right. Those pieces delight people who enjoy pissing off the elder know-it-alls, and infuriate the know-it-alls, and everyone clicks away
re: brand -- think I know what you're saying, as far as working on one's "brand", or "your social media presence speaks to the value of your brand" etc kind of stuff. But "Levi's is a brand of jeans" is super old, and probably the first form of "brand" I actually learned.
― Dominique, Monday, 29 August 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link
(xp)
personal brand is the commidification of what I used to naively think was cool, "cultivating an aesthetic", which mostly means defining yourself by listing your music, arts, fashion, influences in list-like form and presenting them in place of self
but really can people ever know u anyway
― mh π, Monday, 29 August 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link
late night television hosts can stop doing these man on the street bits where they ask concertgoers if they know about fake band names and then clown people
Oh I don't think these are going to stop, or at least not until they mutate away from vox pop bits being the laziest shit way to generate minutes of video.
Have there been any suitably deranged responses to these type of bits done by Conan or Eric Andre or somebody?
― Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Monday, 29 August 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link
Crut, I feel the roller derby/burlesque/women with tattoos nexus is somewhat redeemed by verbally inventive double-entendre naming of the Helena Handbasket / Anne of Cleaver type.
― plenty offish (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 29 August 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link
no, that's the worst part of it
― mh π, Monday, 29 August 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link
Burning Man LLC is a thing
β Ξα½ΟΞΉΟ, Friday, August 26, 2016 12:14 PM (three days ago)
a thing that was started in the mid-late 90s after someone died at the event and the organizers got sued. It's actually just the operating organization. The Burning Man intellectual property is owned by a separate company, and now they have a tax exempt art foundation.
― sarahell, Monday, 29 August 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link
imo burning man as a fun zone for moneyed types and burners as a tiring people are two different issues
the event as whole still isn't necessarily for moneyed people afaik and there's probably some "no true burner" arguments going on in that sphere
― mh π, Monday, 29 August 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link
I am aware of how the Burning Man organization is structured.
― Ξα½ΟΞΉΟ, Monday, 29 August 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
this is prob the worst parthttp://www.furtherfuture.com/
blurring the line between work and play
― mh π, Monday, 29 August 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link
btw if ilx wants to crowdfund my trip to the further future thing for research purposes I will accept donations
― mh π, Monday, 29 August 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link
they have exclusive mixes!!
http://www.furtherfuture.com/ff002-music
― sarahell, Monday, 29 August 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link
actually this doesn't look as bad as I expected and the musical lineup isn't too far from what I've seen live
please send me to the desert
― mh π, Monday, 29 August 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link
I vow to wear an outfit similar to thishttp://static1.squarespace.com/static/5692b3604bf1182ee60156fe/t/57292c6cb6aa60d43fc47aa9/1462316153868/Speaker-Lineup-Final-WEB.jpg?format=750w
― mh π, Monday, 29 August 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link
Burning Man perpetually one of those things I am mildly curious about, and can imagine how it would be fun, but then think again about how I probably wouldn't be able to stand a single person I met there, and do I really want to waste my molly experience on EDM and "visuals" anyway?
― Dominique, Monday, 29 August 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link
dunno how the top would work for you, I'd reconsider.
― sarahell, Monday, 29 August 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link
lol "Beyond Vegas"
― Dominique, Monday, 29 August 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link
I have some canadian friends who went maybe three-ish years ago? and a coworker who is older and went somewhere five or six years ago
I've gotten the impression it's changed a lot, which would make sense considering the size and makeup of the attendees shifting. "Events" were a lot more ad hoc or arranged on the fly and now it's definitely a thing where people plan things to do while there.
the coworker who went is kind of an odd guy, in a good way, and he traveled with his brother who had some sort of (mutant) vehicle repair-and-construction rig. their other brother had recently died in a freak accident and they decided to spend time together at this thing. coworker is probably in his 50s and has kids in their teens/20s iirc
― mh π, Monday, 29 August 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link
to burning man, that is. not this ff thing
do Paris Hilton and Grover Norquist party w poor people?
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Paris-Hilton-Burning-Man-2016-Twitter-braids-9192622.php
― Ξα½ΟΞΉΟ, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 15:43 (seven years ago) link
Steampunk, it's er neither steam nor punk. Burlesque is another dreadful development of the modern age.
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 15:53 (seven years ago) link
would love a christopher guest burning man parody movie.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link
omg
― Ξα½ΟΞΉΟ, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link
no, Paris Hilton and Grover Norquist take private shuttle services or helicopters to air conditioned trailers with private security and have stage-side areas to hang out where others aren't allowed in
it's like asking "does Paris Hilton go to the same Drake concert that everyone else does?" and yeah, to an extent, the private seating w/unlimited food and drinks, table service, an unobstructed view of the stage (or even being on the stage) is the same concert but it's not the same
― mh π, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link
on the other hand, I guess Steven Tyler played the state fair and went to the midway to ride the ferris wheel and eat a corn dog after his performance, so yeah, I guess he does party w/poor people
― mh π, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 16:09 (seven years ago) link
imo the tiered experiences of music and cultural festivals is definitely something that has been refined in the last couple decades. there have always been guest lists, VIP access, whatever, but now it seems like any event with more than a handful of people has at least three ticket tiers with varying levels of access and amenities
― mh π, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link
depends on how you define "poor people," too. were there ever significant numbers of burners below the actual poverty level? idk
― mh π, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link
I guess I should just ask: Shakey, what's the premise you're snarking about here? That burning man is corporate and for rich people, and that it has always been that way, or is this some change? I snark about burners and that event all the time but I'm not getting what you're trying to imply about the whole enterprise.
― mh π, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link
what i don't understand is if you're going to do the luxury corporate weekend experience why do it at some shitty festival?
― Len Bincowank (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link