PINK FLOYD

hehe, "psychedelic is a silly term"

The Copenhagen set has a real bite that I haven't heard elsewhere. So looking forward to hearing the Stockholm remaster.
Do wonder what the individual section sets are going to cost. Will definitely want the first couple.

Roger Waters announced as part of this year's Bridge School Benefit

:D

Secretly kinda wish it was Dave instead of Rog but it's still gonna be cool to see him in that setting

why would you rather see Gilmour live than Waters

seriously that is crazy

yeah, you'll miss out on all that great Waters guitar playing

Gilmour has a beautiful voice and a majestic guitar style

Waters is a creep who should've just lurked in the background.

That's a joke post right? Everything about live Floyd is better w gilmour

Xps

Maybe it's just me but I'd rather hear Floyd songs sung by the person who wrote them. All the nice guitar playing and singing can't disguise the fact that Gilmour is and always has been a mediocre songwriter with nary a creative idea in his head

I saw Waters' Wall show a few years ago and it was one of the best shows I've ever seen. It wouldn't have been up to much if he had "just lurked in the background"

whatever

yeah it would be pretty weird if a headliner just "lurked in the background" that's exactly what i meant, what the fuck

he's a creep with a crappy voice and he writes horrible lyrics

cue one of buzza's socks to tell me i'm shit

My son was in the kids choir in the Wall show and met Waters backstage, said he was a lovely man. He comes across very well in that Wall concert movie/doc thing from a couple of years ago as well. As someone wrote upthread or in some other thread somewhere, he's obviously been through therapy and has worked out a lot of his issues. Besides which he wrote the lyrics to every Floyd song since 1968, that's an awful lot of lyrics to dismiss as "crappy"

*"horrible"

music - it's all about the lyrics

he has written an awful lot of horrible lyrics, yes

And an awful lot of great ones as well.

Obviously the music is important as well and I'd be the first to admit that a lot of what I love about Floyd comes from Gilmour's voice and guitar, but as far as what makes Floyd great overall the scales are heavily tipped in Waters' favour

i like a lot of Floyd, like a lot of Waters' contributions, don't give a shit about any sense of that band having an auteur and think most of their lyrics are disposable

but this whole spat started with the assertion that preferring to watch a concert featuring a beautiful guitarist rather than a dude who wrote some lyrics would be "seriously crazy"

like i'm not "lyrics never matter" but if you privilege their deep meaningfulness over how music sounds then go and read a book or something

Waters was absolutely Floyd's auteur, it is well documented that none of the others contributed squat post DSotM

The point I was making is that it's better to watch lyrics sung by the dude who wrote them rather than the bloke who didn't

anyway I think I'll take your advice and go read a book

maybe think about any exceptions in the history of music to "i'd rather listen to the lyricist sing"

No-one cares about Cole Porters singing voice.

noone alive has heard Lorenzo da Ponte's

while i get all the waters hate here, particularly when he keeps saying stupid shit in public, i also think it's kind of ridiculous. ooooh, he's not really a very good musician or singer! boy that's a stinging indictment when it comes to rock music.

gilmour has a nice guitar tone and all but you go to see him in concert and he'll play the song he wrote based on parisian mass transit jingles. he's also more likely to dig up something like "childhood's end", mind, so that's in his favor, but he's pleasant to the point of being dull.

The only one I'd pay to see these days is Nick.

Wrt post dsotm contributions it's well documented on the fun Floyd thread that gilmour contributed v good music and dreadful lyrics to comfortably numb

Oh sry, I guess this isthefun thread

PINK FLOYD RULES

Comfortably Numb 's lyrics are fine, there are some weird opinions on this board

the dreadful lyrics (you mean "the doctor", right?) were waters. his second draft was better.

lol jeez what did i start! sorry guys. PINK FLOYD RULES.

i have seen Rog live before & it was pretty ace. i don't have that all that much beef with him tbh. besides, this'll be my cheapest Rog ticket by far so who's complaining :D

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I think it's time to get this thread back in shape by reminding ourselves that Pink Floyd can fly and therefore RULES

:D

Reducing Floyd to post DSotM is, um, reductive

"I'd rather hear Floyd songs sung by the person who wrote them"

gilmore wrote plenty of good floyd songs

I'd rather hear pre-DSOTM anyway.
Glad to have a pile of the live stuff from the early years.

Really good to hear that Paradiso '69 set Celestial Instruments which I'd been missing up to last night.
Thought I'd picked up about one of every gig that went out in a torrent war a couple of years back. But somehopw hadn't got that.
Does sound fantastic though, presumably soundboard though vocal-less apart from the bit of Astronomy Domine that bled into the drum mic.
the Copenhagen '67 set sounds like something people should be exposed to if they're remotely into distorto guitar rock stuff. Seems much more aggressive than I think one would immediately think of Barrett era Floyd sounding.

gilmore wrote plenty of good floyd songs

The music, yes. The lyrics, no.

does anyone have that box set with a zillion gajillion discs (CDs, DVDs, Blu-Rays) of stuff from the syd barrett era? it's like $600, so i can't afford it, but it looks rather incredible.

have to admit that the only floyd albums i unreservedly adore are the two with contributions from barrett. so i guess i'm "that guy" on every floyd thread.

syd's rad, and he's a huge part of floyd. i get it. i love syd!

That box set drops in November.

ah, for some reason i thought it came out this month.

Richard Wright gets left out of Floyd fighting every time alas.

Box set also comes out as 6 individual sets some time next year. Not sure when. & hoping price is reasonable. People have said the full box is a bit steep compared to say King Crimson's ones with comprehensive coverage of particular eras.
Also it is feared that the 7th set which is exclusive to the full box won't have great sound. That's the one with Syd Bbc sessions.

Was Richard Wright Pink Floyd's second best song-writer (after Syd)?

Pink Floyd's Richard Wright, forgotten genius?

even if we're sticking to his best-loved work, come on, "fearless" (gilmour/waters) vs. "summer '68" (wright)?

Fearless is overrated. I'll take Summer '68.

walk alone then

^^^ <3 u mookie

i love rick, but he strikes me less as a harrison-style "dark horse" and more as a carl wilson type. "long promised road" and "feel flows" are both really good songs, but by no means would i call carl one of the pre-eminent songwriting talents of that band, and with those two solo albums of his the bad far outweighs the good in his catalog.

and even the good.. the scarcity of his songwriting contributions for the band does a little to mask his fairly limited range as a songwriter. he wrote about drinking and one-night stands and had an inexplicably fondness for that "ADRINKADRINK" kind of riff, all awkward chords and unappealing quiet-loud contrasts. when he wasn't doing that, or his damn "turkish delite" riff, he would do songs like "stay", which i like, it's fine soft rock, but you know, it's no "motel blues". hell, it's not even mark eric.

rick also had, for most of his life, the problem that he didn't feel comfortable singing lead live. given that he was in a band with roger waters this is clearly a psychological and not a musical issue, but a lot of floyd's songs took flight in concert. as leaden as waters' pastoral folk stuff like "grantchester meadows" could sound on record, when they went on kqed and waters and gilmour dueted on it the song was much improved. same thing with gilmour's "fat old sun" - just fantastic in concert.