xp to "dreaming" being disco blondie -- it's the dancing queen rip does that count
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 25 August 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link
Does anyone really, really, really like "What's Going On"? I've always felt that it's the r&b counterpart of the equally boring "Imagine". The message does all the heavy lifting, while the music is kind of a snore. Feel like it's been cruising on pure inertia for quite some time.
― Darin, Thursday, 25 August 2016 23:35 (seven years ago) link
i'm pretty sure everybody likes it. but we need to move on now. this list is so yesterday.
― scott seward, Thursday, 25 August 2016 23:38 (seven years ago) link
Music in Imagine is amazing. Whats Goin On also great bar a couple tracks, great sound.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 August 2016 23:41 (seven years ago) link
"what's going on" would make my top 5 or top 10. it's no donnie joe emerson though
― brimstead, Thursday, 25 August 2016 23:41 (seven years ago) link
I like "What's Going On" (more so than "Imagine," which stopped being interesting to me as soon as the subversive kick of "no religion" wore off for me) but to affirm your point, I suppose, I don't feel all that passionate about defending it.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Thursday, 25 August 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link
maybe I've been de-sensitized to both songs. I dunno. I get fidgety when I hear political songs.
― Darin, Thursday, 25 August 2016 23:43 (seven years ago) link
I get fidgety when I watch political movies, so that I get.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Thursday, 25 August 2016 23:44 (seven years ago) link
all songs are political
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 August 2016 23:51 (seven years ago) link
my favorite political song is "hallogallo"
― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Thursday, 25 August 2016 23:54 (seven years ago) link
'Inner City Blues' and 'Mercy Mercy Me' are the better choices from that album.
― Austin, Friday, 26 August 2016 01:24 (seven years ago) link
yep
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 August 2016 01:28 (seven years ago) link
my favorite Gaye these days is In Our Lifetime.
a really, really good record
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 26 August 2016 02:33 (seven years ago) link
distant lover's my pick for the 70's
― Heez, Friday, 26 August 2016 02:38 (seven years ago) link
Trouble Man soundtrack and I Want You are my go-to Marvins. because i'm really dope.
― scott seward, Friday, 26 August 2016 03:22 (seven years ago) link
I Want You is clearly the best thing he ever did.
― Austin, Friday, 26 August 2016 04:03 (seven years ago) link
clearly
― brimstead, Friday, 26 August 2016 04:13 (seven years ago) link
What's Going On has a very special sound, but the lyrics do have a slightly bullshitty vagueness to them. Somehow Inner City Blues doesn't bother me in the same way. However my favorite track on the record is God is Love, strangely.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 26 August 2016 04:25 (seven years ago) link
No way, 'God is Love' totally rules.
The live set that's on the deluxe edition of What's Going On, generally speaking, makes a sick joke out of the studio version.
― Austin, Friday, 26 August 2016 04:50 (seven years ago) link
This Spotify playlist is ALL dollar bin stuff!
"Songs in the key of Donnie and Joe Emerson: Music that Inspired the Fruitland Recordings"
https://open.spotify.com/user/lightintheatticrecords/playlist/3vVsfGaJQMl7OBmJajg2rg
― brimstead, Friday, 26 August 2016 05:26 (seven years ago) link
some measure of commitment to their position as arbiter of the canon or whatever
Apart from having fun with lists and producing content for a website the key to these lists is that if they are accepted they assert the publishers "cultural capital" or smth right?
I know that's a very basic point, but surely it's the primary underlying motive behind such a list, discussing and engaging with the cannon and your position in relation to it
― niels, Friday, 26 August 2016 16:19 (seven years ago) link
new pitchfork ad feature: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28535603/google-chrome-forcing-download-of-f-txt-file
― veggie sticks potato snacks (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 26 August 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link
the expanded version of What's Going On with all the extra tracks/demos is pretty amazing, I love that lush but still gritty sound. Oddly I don't unreservedly love any of Gaye's albums all the way through, I still feel like I would prefer to cherrypick tracks from here and there. Maybe cuz that way I still get the full length of Got to Give It Up (his best song)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 26 August 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link
Probably. Sight & Sound and Rolling Stone want to guard it, maybe incrementally move it along, Spin in 1988 wanted to upend it--which can be embarrassing if you don't have anything interesting to offer as a replacement; their list was pretty good, though. Pitchfork, I don't know well enough to comment.
― clemenza, Friday, 26 August 2016 20:25 (seven years ago) link
the best track on what's goin on is what's happenin' brother. "will our ballclub win the pennant? do you think they stand a chance? and tell me, friend, how in the world have you been?"
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Sunday, 28 August 2016 20:19 (seven years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/9932-the-50-best-indie-rock-albums-of-the-pacific-northwest/
Strange list. Lots of good albums, but "the folks who made this list chose to exclude the “grunge” era from the tally".
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 08:57 (seven years ago) link
Full list:
1. Elliott Smith - Either/Or2. Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out3. The Microphones - The Glow, Pt. 24. Modest Mouse - The Lonesome Crowded West5. Built to Spill - There’s Nothing Wrong With Love6. Sunny Day Real Estate - Diary7. Elliott Smith - XO8. Modest Mouse - The Moon & Antarctica9. Death Cab for Cutie - Transatlanticism10. Bikini Kill - Pussy Whipped11. Beat Happening - Jamboree12. The Shins - Oh, Inverted World13. Built to Spill - Keep It Like a Secret14. Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes15. Destroyer - Streethawk: A Seduction16. Japandroids - Celebration Rock17. Sleater-Kinney - All Hands on the Bad One18. The New Pornographers - Twin Cinema19. The Postal Service - Give Up20. Wipers - Youth of America21. Unwound - Leaves Turn Inside You22. Dead Moon - In the Graveyard23. Neko Case - Furnace Room Lullaby24. The Exploding Hearts - Guitar Romantic25. The Thermals - The Body, The Blood, The Machine26. The Shins - Chutes Too Narrow27. Death Cab for Cutie - We Have the Facts and We're Voting Yes28. Bratmobile - Pottymouth29. Beck - One Foot in the Grave30. Heatmiser - Mic City Sons31. The Microphones - It Was Hot, We Stayed in the Water32. The Halo Benders - The Rebels Not In33. Band of Horses - Everything All the Time34. The Decemberists - Picaresque35. Mirah - You Think It's Like This But Really It's Like This36. Pedro the Lion - Control37. Gun Outfit - Possession Sound38. The Softies - It’s Love39. Milk Music - Cruise Your Illusion40. Pretty Girls Make Graves - The New Romance41. Lync - These Are Not Fall Colors42. Tiny Vipers - Life on Earth43. White Lung - Sorry44. Quasi - Featuring "Birds"45. The Posies - Frosting on the Beater46. The Spinanes - Arches and Aisles47. Youth Lagoon - The Year of Hibernation48. Damien Jurado - Maraqopa49. Excuse 17 - Such Friends Are Dangerous50. Gaze - Mitsumeru
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 10:43 (seven years ago) link
would rather see a list from... say.. Italy. or some other relatively unknown indie location. the mediterranean southwest of Italy probably would be stretching things a bit :P
― Ludo, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 10:49 (seven years ago) link
just read a pretty nice list of italian new wave myself. i think gaznevada might be a little niche for pfork though?
― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 11:05 (seven years ago) link
I can't get past chutes too narrow at only 26. That's #1 in my opinion.
― carly reagan jepsen (2011nostalgia), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 15:57 (seven years ago) link
this list would be 100x better if they left in grunge
― marcos, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link
I guess whatshisname lived in Portland during Chutes Too Narrow, but the band recorded and lived in Albaquerque during Oh, Inverted World. It's inclusion doesn't really make much sense.
― Darin, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link
Elliott Smith at #1 is the correct answer. Good representation from Modest Mouse in the top 10, and nice inclusion of The Wipers. i think excluding grunge makes sense, pre and post Nirvana are two very different scenes and soundscapes, Smith being the prime example of that...
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link
weird pan of the new clipping album today, which only gets to any negative criticism in the last few lines.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link
As long as it generates ad revenue and clicks.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link
which reviews of clipping albums are renowned for
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 6 September 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link
131,946 views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su4ZsUDJWcQ
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link
The weirdest thing about that review was that it's based on the idea that a rap group doing afrofuturism is an incredibly out there idea. It even mentions P-funk, as if half the Parliament albums weren't space musicals.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link
that's not even in his top 250 most watched videos xp
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 6 September 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link
i was referring to the idea of pitchfork doing a "Best italian albums" list compared to one that has BTS Modest Mouse and Elliott in their top 10. of course they review weirdo stuff; i wasn't debating that.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link
i didn't notice the comment about clipping before i posted that until just now.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link
i like conde nast pitchfork. so much content. lists. i like this http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1286-slacking-about-maybe-reviewing-the-new-lady-gaga-single/
― flappy bird, Friday, 9 September 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
Honestly, that felt more like good ole fashioned turn of the Century Pitchfork, except that it would have been published as an actual review instead of in a separate section, and it would have been a fictionalized conversation written by one person.
― MarkoP, Saturday, 10 September 2016 00:08 (seven years ago) link
RIP Brent DiCrescenzo
― Number None, Saturday, 10 September 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link
IlXoorrrr goodness:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/22255-caetano-veloso/
― scott seward, Sunday, 11 September 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link
I loved that review, though the standouts of the first wave of tropicalia records are the first Gilberto Gil and Panes et Circenses. Still, listened to Tropicalia after reading, and yeah, it did sound better than normal. Oh, Irene wasn't made in London, btw. I think the review meant to link to the third s/t, A Little More Blue.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 11 September 2016 19:15 (seven years ago) link
First off, ask yourself why you want to book a festival. There are tons of festivals, more than anyone needs. What will make yours different? Meditate on this. Think about Altamont.
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1242-how-to-organize-your-own-music-festival/
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 15 September 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link
If you book Kanye West, make sure to get all the stuff on his rider.
― a (waterface), Thursday, 15 September 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link
Am I the only one who thinks that piece is ... an enormous conflict of interest?
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 15 September 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link