pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

Whiney complaining about white rock bands getting knocked off in favor of r&b is hilarious when the top 100 is disproportionately cbgb bullshit & x Ray spex are hella high but anita ward doesn't even place

Point being, get some perspective

or because new wave/punk is the new cis white male corny ass dickbeater dad "real music" like the Beatles/Stones were or all of the above

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:12 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuck outta here dude new wave punk is most of this list esp top 100

d40 otm

devo rules dude

they deserve to be on the list

yeah you would expect the token "Roundabout" or "Starless" or maybe even "Supper's Ready"

hell it's tough to make an argument for "rock lobster" as radical queer music because everybody likes the song for reasons that have nothing to do with most of the band being queer.

I'd have two prog/art-rock songs (interchangeable terminology for me--maybe they're not) on a Top 100 for sure: "Roundabout" and a Jethro Tull song (many candidates). Also something from ELO before they became big on Top 40, if they count. Maybe "Tubular Bells" too, the Exorcist section.

I wish every song I don't like were off the list and replaced by songs that I do like.

That said Roundabout wuz robbed

"roundabout" sorta has a second life rn as an anime theme song/vine meme so it would've been fun to view it from 2016

Mentioned in School of Rock, too--"homework" for one of the kids.

why is this list provoking such strong emotion? i'll never understand ;_;

people love music

t/s: psychoanalyzing pitchfork listmakers vs talking about how great your taste is

xp dog c'mon

can't believe a hipster/indie website didn't put Aldo Nova on their list

sorry, i don't really care, it's just silly. and i'm silly.

"t/s: psychoanalyzing pitchfork listmakers vs talking about how great your taste is"

you are so not new here! i mean,come on, you know how we do.

would rather read about how list is invalid because it lacks aldo nova and yoko ono than read about how list is invalid because there are some sabbath songs that aren't on it

aldo nova for pitchfork fans:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOalSzYpsdE

the whole point of lists is for people to argue about them and talk about them online that's why every outlet does them

I wish every song I don't like were off the list and replaced by songs that I do like.

same

i'm as guilty as anyone else it's cool

i planned on yipping about no Spinners but they got one on there

honestly I think this list should be replaced with a list of every Aldo Nova song in chronological order

xr7 is all time

and post-punk is still cool

the whole point of lists is for people to argue about them and talk about them online that's why every outlet does them

Something I honestly don't know--does the attention such a list gets increase readership, or ad revenue, or something? I say that because one time I'm guessing such a list did increase readership (goes back a ways, and I have no actual proof) was the Top 100 Spin did in the late '80s. Whatever you thought about the list itself--a mix of great picks and empty/silly provocation, as I recall--it was sufficiently different from a Rolling Stone list at the time, and Spin was new enough, that they might have actually picked up readers. These lists are ubiquitous now (music and film).

Chris complaining about white rock bands getting knocked off in favor of r&b is hilarious when the top 100 is disproportionately cbgb bullshit & x Ray spex are hella high but anita ward doesn't even place

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:04 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Again, I don't think this is "wrong" or "bad," I just think it's funny/interesting how tastes are changing

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:19 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

all i'm saying is if the 80s list doesn't have Quarterflash.. hell to pay

xpost Point being, learn to read

the whole point of lists is for people to argue about them and talk about them online that's why every outlet does them

Something I honestly don't know--does the attention such a list gets increase readership, or ad revenue, or something? I say that because one time I'm guessing such a list did increase readership (goes back a ways, and I have no actual proof) was the Top 100 Spin did in the late '80s. Whatever you thought about the list itself--a mix of great picks and empty/silly provocation, as I recall--it was sufficiently different from a Rolling Stone list at the time, and Spin was new enough, that they might have actually picked up readers. These lists are ubiquitous now (music and film).

― clemenza, Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:11 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lists always did well for my previous publication (and also generated a lot of extra hits because ppl were a lot more likely to comment on the story)

i'm putting the line on how long Ilx is going to actively discuss this list of songs on pitchfork at five more days
and then betting the over

(xpost) I suspected they did produce tangible results. An obvious case probably being Pazz & Jop--I know they don't keep it alive because they're committed to tradition or anything.

people like lists.

Also Sight & Sound's once-a-decade historical poll, which is undoubtedly their biggest-selling issue every 10 years. Although there, I bet there is some measure of commitment to their position as arbiter of the canon or whatever.

i tend to like quirkier/weirder/niche/idiosyncratic lists best though. most regular lists don't take a whole lot of thought to put together.

sure, i like lists. why do we have to keep numbering the stupid things, though? can we really continue to pretend it's meaningful to try and determine whether black flag's "nervous breakdown" is a better song than "darkness at the edge of town"?

That's the reason they get talked about though.

Nate Silver developed a formula for that--you have to quantify these things.

i ignore numbering. it doesn't really matter. maybe a top ten does or whatever. pretty arbitrary otherwise.

okay this made me laugh (from the Top 25 70s videos list):

Few bands of the late ’60s and early ’70s were more melancholy than the Bee Gees, from “I Started a Joke” to “I Lay Down and Die,” “How Do You Mend a Broken Heart,” and “Don’t Wanna Live Inside Myself.” Sad!

devo rules dude

― a (waterface), Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:16 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they deserve to be on the list

― a (waterface), Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:16 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

esp given p4k's core musical heritage. no Pixies without Devo imo

That's the reason they get talked about though.

― Evan

not in my experience! all the arguing i've seen about this list is not about about whether "metal guru" should have been #150 AT LEAST but about what made it on the list and what didn't.

most regular lists don't take a whole lot of thought to put together.

― scott seward, Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:41 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tons of intra-staff acrimony and bitterness tho iirc

well, yeah, if other people are involved it could be a hassle, i guess. but a list like this one could be put together in an hour or two by one person and then that person just gets people to write about the songs. voila. which is probably how a lot of internet lists are made nowadays. doesn't have to be time-consuming.

which is why i tend to like more personal/obsessive lists by people who are nuts like me.

wait are there seriously no bee gees on the main list?

not in my experience! all the arguing i've seen about this list is not about about whether "metal guru" should have been #150 AT LEAST but about what made it on the list and what didn't.

― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fair enough but I would imagine one of the most popular discussion topics in regards to this list is how things rank and whether or not Pitchfork did so correctly.

nothing by Heart, would've figured "barracuda" as a lock.

these kind of conversations always remind me of when the Rolling Stone Album Guide came out in late '04 and the first I heard that it existed was when somebody (on ilx iiirc) noted there was no Metallica in the damn thing