I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII

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I think so. It's more "what he wants to do and what he's capable of doing are two different things".

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link

I hate how I can't read any Trump quote, or made up Trump quote, without hearing that stupid cadence of his in my head.

I'm a horse. A horse, okay? It's true, folks. I'm a horse, and by the way, Croooooooooked Hillary (waits for applause) is a dog. She's a dog. I heard she's a dog, I dunno...

Donald Trump eats people of all races and religions (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:29 (seven years ago) link

Yes. He wants to be a winner but all he does is lose. The most beautiful part of all of this is that he actually, scarily had a chance, and the erosion of the chance he had is entirely his doing.

Exactly. This election was definitely winnable for Trump and he's completely blown it in the dumbest possible way. Like border walls and Muslim bans are one thing but lately it's just been one high-risk no-reward statement after another

frogbs, Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link

Even still I hope we don't eat these words after some inconceivable turn of events.

Evan, Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:41 (seven years ago) link

here's another fun find for those trying to figure out exactly what drugs he may be on:

https://imgur.com/gallery/PqvRV

frogbs, Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:42 (seven years ago) link

Here's the cover that goes along with the Time piece:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cpkv7R1XEAAuolB.jpg

clemenza, Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link

xxpost Another beautiful thing is that, as Trump goes in hard on saying insane fringe stuff like Obama and Clinton being the co-founders of ISIS, his appeal increases with the fringe and decreases with everyone else and it becomes harder to discern signal from noise. Any legit grievances with Clinton are going to get lost in the shuffling madness.

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link

I bet a simple neural network could emulate Trump-speak pretty quickly, given it doesn't ever have actually make sense or follow any sort of sentence structure.

i think you're giving him too much credit - at this point he's basically a burnt sienna fridge poetry set, stringing the same words and phrases together over and over again in minute variations

pokemon go speed run (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link

If he had just disappeared to the Hamptons or Florida for part of August, let people get bored with Hillary, and then come back zings blazing after Labor Day...

thrill of transgressin (Eazy), Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link

another fun fact - he buys a lot of Twitter followers:

http://i.imgur.com/oxm7U24.png

frogbs, Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link

Any legit grievances with Clinton are going to get lost in the shuffling madness.

it's almost as if this candidate has locomotive breath

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:53 (seven years ago) link

That really should've been his campaign song. A startlingly-prophetic parallel of how things are going for him.

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link

Meanwhile
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/us/politics/mike-pence-muslim-ban.html

INDIANAPOLIS — Gov. Mike Pence of Indiana suggested in a radio interview on Monday that Donald J. Trump’s proposed ban on Muslims from entering the country could be broadened to include other religions, not just Muslims.

In an interview with Charlie Sykes, a Wisconsin talk radio host, Mr. Sykes specifically pressed Mr. Pence on his running mate’s Muslim ban, asking: “So there’s no longer a proposed temporary ban on Muslims? It would be anyone from those countries, including Christians? Jews?”

Mr. Pence, seeming to go beyond even the policy proposed by Mr. Trump, did not rule out barring immigrants from other religions, if they were coming from nations or territories that support terrorism.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link

What about skin color? Or weird names?

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link

Meanwhile, this...is telling:

https://twitter.com/jasonnobleDMR/status/763763968246550528

@SteveKingIA just said @HillaryClinton "outside of the press, outside of the public eye is someone I can work with."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:06 (seven years ago) link

i was thinking how if she is able to get things passed w/ bipartisan support the left is really really going to hate her. it won't matter what she gets the republicans to give up - any concession or negotiation will be seen as a betrayal.

Mordy, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link

http://www.wbtv.com/story/32736823/lawsuit-trump-campaign-failed-to-act-after-staffer-pulled-gun

CHARLOTTE, NC (WBTV) - A lawsuit filed by a former staffer on Donald J. Trump’s campaign for president claims the campaign’s then-North Carolina State Director pulled a gun on him and senior campaign officials refused to do anything about it.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

If HRC becomes the new center of gravity for the Republican Party I'd consider that a good development. xp

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link

i was thinking how if she is able to get things passed w/ bipartisan support the left is really really going to hate her. it won't matter what she gets the republicans to give up - any concession or negotiation will be seen as a betrayal.

― Mordy, Thursday, August 11, 2016 11:07 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Easy now, let's see what she actually does first.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link

the spectacle of company man hugh hewitt throwing a life preserver to trump over and over again the interview and trump batting it away is really something

goole, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link

it won't matter what she gets the republicans to give up - any concession or negotiation will be seen as a betrayal.

well duh

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link

Meghan McCain is annoyed.

https://twitter.com/MeghanMcCain/status/763768753419063296

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link

lol michael ian black first response hall of fame

Mordy, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:18 (seven years ago) link

minor political disappointment of the day:

Lady Miss Kier is a jill stein anti-hillary type (ok ok) retweeting prisonplanet and breitbart goons

https://twitter.com/ladykier

say it ain't so!

goole, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:27 (seven years ago) link

another fun fact - he buys a lot of Twitter followers:

http://i.imgur.com/oxm7U24.png

― frogbs, Thursday, August 11, 2016 11:50 AM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's a fairly typical fraction of bot followers for a celebrity account. maybe a bit on the high side, but no evidence that he's buying them.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:28 (seven years ago) link

uh also (need to figure this out) the green party running mate has some kind of connection to holocaust denial?

https://twitter.com/ajamubaraka

idk sounds tenuous at first glance

goole, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:29 (seven years ago) link

ok he contributed a piece to a book about how the charlie hedbo attack was a false flag

https://twitter.com/johnpaulpagano/status/763363044391002112

edited by a holocaust denier. cover by david dees!

goole, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link

Ajamu Baraka ‏@ajamubaraka 1h1 hour ago
Our presidential options at the top level of government are bleak. That's why we need to build from the bottom up. pointlessly run moron candidates for president every four years.

a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:34 (seven years ago) link

boy i thought flirting with naturalnews body paranoia was bad...

goole, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/deepdrumpf

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, August 11, 2016 10:23 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so amazing

marcos, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link

lol michael ian black first response hall of fame

amen!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

if she is able to get things passed w/ bipartisan support the left is really really going to hate her

record-setting billions for Bibi; count on it.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link

lol michael ian black first response hall of fame

Throwing Sarah Palin back at her obliterates anything she might have to say.

clemenza, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link

MI Black and McCain wrote a book together

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link

pretty sure obama is going to sign that new aid package before he leaves office. nb i was pleasantly surprised to find that daniel pipes most recent column called for the military aid to end: http://www.danielpipes.org/16850/end-us-aid-to-israel

Mordy, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link

but what does record-setting billions for bibi have to do w/ negotiating with republicans? both hillary and the republicans want it. i'm talking about things hillary doesn't necessarily want, or things she has actually campaigned against, that she might give into to make a "grand compromise."

Mordy, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:51 (seven years ago) link

they're not gonna compromise at all - tea party caucus in the House will be even more powerful after the election, Ryan will be hamstrung.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link

yeah it's like they'll have distilled much of the sanity out of the GOP and what is left will be even crazier and less prone to compromise

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 11 August 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link

in re. baraka -- you can't make up this stuff:

In January 2015, Baraka described the vigil for the victims of the Charlie Hebdo shooting as a "white power march" and Je suis Charlie as an "arrogant rallying cry for white supremacy" because of France's colonial history, the caricature at issue, French support for American policy in Syria and Libya, and the disproportionate interest in this particular act of war.[19] Later he would write an article titled "No 'Je Suis Charleston'?".

caroline du sud n'est pas francophone, non?

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 11 August 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link

when has the GOP ever been sane

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 August 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link

Not in the last forty or fifty years.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 August 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

it's all relative i guess

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 11 August 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpmAplYUsAA7dkA.jpg

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 August 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link

So did we talk about how Trump is now two points ahead of HRC in...South Carolina?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 August 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link

(He's not)

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 August 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link

I'm wondering why we haven't seen a poll of Texas voters in a while, tbh.

esempiu (crüt), Thursday, 11 August 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

those parentheticals in the CNN chyron have been just

sublime

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Thursday, 11 August 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

Apropos of nothing, a friend of mine (not the person I'm linking to) just shared this video on FB, of some psychotic aggro asshole threatening a cyclist. Among his many threats: "If there weren't any witnesses, I'd pull a Trump on you."

https://www.facebook.com/mark.friis1/videos/vb.1201104417/10207942299974298/?type=2&theater

a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Thursday, 11 August 2016 17:21 (seven years ago) link

South Carolina was only a ten point differential in 2012. Compare with Missouri (nine point differential) and Georgia (eight point differential).

timellison, Thursday, 11 August 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link

Lieberman goes for HRC:
http://jewishva.org/node/129998

thrill of transgressin (Eazy), Thursday, 11 August 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link


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