I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII

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"I'm a truth teller. All I do is tell the truth. And if at the end of 90 days, I've fallen short because I'm somewhat politically correct even though I'm supposed to be the smart one and even though I'm supposed to have a lot of good ideas, it's OK. I go back to a very good way of life."

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 13:09 (seven years ago) link

^^ I actually thought that was a fake quote until I came across the CNBC interview this morning. We should come up with a special Real-Donald-Trump font from here on in.

clemenza, Thursday, 11 August 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link

He's like a malfunctioning bot at this point, spewing magnetic poetry pieces intermixed with the occasional fringe-y retweet to keep people's interest.

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:09 (seven years ago) link

I bet a simple neural network could emulate Trump-speak pretty quickly, given it doesn't ever have actually make sense or follow any sort of sentence structure.

Evan, Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link

It's true. Sad!

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:20 (seven years ago) link

xp https://twitter.com/deepdrumpf

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link

http://time.com/4447985/inside-donald-trump-meltdown/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link

This "eh, either I win or I get to do some mad chillaxing" trip he's on is the tack of of a presidential candidate who a) is preparing to lose and b) isn't that concerned about losing.

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link

He was also preparing to lose when he was prematurely speculating about the election being rigged.

Evan, Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link

he cares. it sounds like "i'm not even mad"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link

"it doesn't ever have actually make sense"

That's partly why OL's quote confused me--Trump thinks he's going to lose because he's "somewhat politically correct"?! What does that mean? That he has even harder truths that he has been thoughtfully shielding us from?

clemenza, Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link

The self-styled law-and-order candidate attacked fire marshals for turning away supporters when his venues hit capacity

Hah, I forgot about this

frogbs, Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:37 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cplb_HwXYAQZVk_.jpg:small

poor hugh hewitt

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:37 (seven years ago) link

can't believe he's giving the MVP to two people -- what is this, a trophy for participating?

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link

Of all his delusions, the biggest may be this idea that after November, he can just go back to being Donald Trump, Awesome Billionaire. His business interests have been irreparably damaged by this whole thing. There's only one bank in the world that'll loan him money, and by the end they're probably gonna cut him loose, too.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:39 (seven years ago) link

The thread title reminds me of "Helter Skelter":

When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the slide
Where I stop and I turn and I go for a ride
Till I get to the bottom and I see you again

And "helter skelter" is as good a description as any of Trump the strategist.

Looking forward now to Hugh Hewitt's next CNN appearance. ("I tried, I tried... god knows I've tried.")

clemenza, Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:40 (seven years ago) link

xpost Yeah, Deutsche Bank is trying to improve their image, and refusing to do any more business with Trump would be a great start.

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link

I'm almost completely certain that Trump read some reactionary tweet saying that Obama founded ISIS and now he's just parroting that. Dumb as a post, this guy.

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:44 (seven years ago) link

That Time article is great. Love this quote in particular:

At Clinton headquarters in Brooklyn, aides still nursing scars from skirmishes with Bernie Sanders marveled at their good fortune. As in all campaigns, researchers watch every public event, read every interview, archive every tweet. “On other campaigns, we would have to scrounge for crumbs,” says a senior Clinton adviser. “Here, it’s a fire hose. He can set himself on fire at breakfast, kill a nun at lunch and waterboard a puppy in the afternoon. And that doesn’t even get us to prime time.”

frogbs, Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:45 (seven years ago) link

Speaking of neural networks, I wonder if someone can get him to retweet a clickotron.com headline. And then cite it as a source for some obliquely related statement later.

Evan, Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link

“What Trump campaign?” one swing-state Senate campaign manager snapped at a volunteer recently. “We have more offices than they do.”

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:50 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/colvinj/status/763730093961347072

when trump thinks something is going to cost less than everyone else, that's when people go bankrupt, including him and the people he works for.

^^ me writing good adverts hire me.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:51 (seven years ago) link

Has he ever been confronted with the actual costs and logistics of building the wall in reality? Just curious.

Evan, Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link

I don't know when/if 'journalists' are ever going to stop treating Trump like some inscrutable sphinx whose words have actual intention behind them.

INTERVIEWER: When you say "I'm a pony", I understand that you mean that you'll be a workhorse for the American people and carry the load as president of the country.

TRUMP: No, I mean I'm a pony. I'm a horse. I sleep in a barn, I wear a saddle, I have a mane. I'm a pony. And Hillary is responsible for every presidential assassination in history.

INTERVIEWER: Okay, so...you mean that her policies somehow honor those who've assassinated presidents in the past?

TRUMP: I mean that she can travel through time and that she's killed lots of presidents. Lots of people are talking about it. Sad!

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:55 (seven years ago) link

ha, that happened this morning https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/763742757143863297

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:56 (seven years ago) link

Trump's speech is a dialectic between the figurative and the literal.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:59 (seven years ago) link

(xxpost) Brilliant!

clemenza, Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:59 (seven years ago) link

For party officials, the Trump campaign has become like the sign inside factories: X days without an accident, with the tally regularly resetting to zero. “I think what he wants to do and what he does do are two different things,” says another senior GOP official.

delicious

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link

Yes. He wants to be a winner but all he does is lose. The most beautiful part of all of this is that he actually, scarily had a chance, and the erosion of the chance he had is entirely his doing.

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:17 (seven years ago) link

@ppppolls
Donald Trump leads by only 2 in South Carolina, with 41% to 39% for Hillary Clinton, 5% Gary Johnson, 2% Jill Stein: publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_R…

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link

“I think what he wants to do and what he does do are two different things,” says another senior GOP official."

Do they really think this? Seems like they're one and the same. Unless they're talking about outcome rather than intent

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link

I think so. It's more "what he wants to do and what he's capable of doing are two different things".

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link

I hate how I can't read any Trump quote, or made up Trump quote, without hearing that stupid cadence of his in my head.

I'm a horse. A horse, okay? It's true, folks. I'm a horse, and by the way, Croooooooooked Hillary (waits for applause) is a dog. She's a dog. I heard she's a dog, I dunno...

Donald Trump eats people of all races and religions (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:29 (seven years ago) link

Yes. He wants to be a winner but all he does is lose. The most beautiful part of all of this is that he actually, scarily had a chance, and the erosion of the chance he had is entirely his doing.

Exactly. This election was definitely winnable for Trump and he's completely blown it in the dumbest possible way. Like border walls and Muslim bans are one thing but lately it's just been one high-risk no-reward statement after another

frogbs, Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link

Even still I hope we don't eat these words after some inconceivable turn of events.

Evan, Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:41 (seven years ago) link

here's another fun find for those trying to figure out exactly what drugs he may be on:

https://imgur.com/gallery/PqvRV

frogbs, Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:42 (seven years ago) link

Here's the cover that goes along with the Time piece:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cpkv7R1XEAAuolB.jpg

clemenza, Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link

xxpost Another beautiful thing is that, as Trump goes in hard on saying insane fringe stuff like Obama and Clinton being the co-founders of ISIS, his appeal increases with the fringe and decreases with everyone else and it becomes harder to discern signal from noise. Any legit grievances with Clinton are going to get lost in the shuffling madness.

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link

I bet a simple neural network could emulate Trump-speak pretty quickly, given it doesn't ever have actually make sense or follow any sort of sentence structure.

i think you're giving him too much credit - at this point he's basically a burnt sienna fridge poetry set, stringing the same words and phrases together over and over again in minute variations

pokemon go speed run (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link

If he had just disappeared to the Hamptons or Florida for part of August, let people get bored with Hillary, and then come back zings blazing after Labor Day...

thrill of transgressin (Eazy), Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link

another fun fact - he buys a lot of Twitter followers:

http://i.imgur.com/oxm7U24.png

frogbs, Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link

Any legit grievances with Clinton are going to get lost in the shuffling madness.

it's almost as if this candidate has locomotive breath

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:53 (seven years ago) link

That really should've been his campaign song. A startlingly-prophetic parallel of how things are going for him.

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link

Meanwhile
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/us/politics/mike-pence-muslim-ban.html

INDIANAPOLIS — Gov. Mike Pence of Indiana suggested in a radio interview on Monday that Donald J. Trump’s proposed ban on Muslims from entering the country could be broadened to include other religions, not just Muslims.

In an interview with Charlie Sykes, a Wisconsin talk radio host, Mr. Sykes specifically pressed Mr. Pence on his running mate’s Muslim ban, asking: “So there’s no longer a proposed temporary ban on Muslims? It would be anyone from those countries, including Christians? Jews?”

Mr. Pence, seeming to go beyond even the policy proposed by Mr. Trump, did not rule out barring immigrants from other religions, if they were coming from nations or territories that support terrorism.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link

What about skin color? Or weird names?

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link

Meanwhile, this...is telling:

https://twitter.com/jasonnobleDMR/status/763763968246550528

@SteveKingIA just said @HillaryClinton "outside of the press, outside of the public eye is someone I can work with."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:06 (seven years ago) link

i was thinking how if she is able to get things passed w/ bipartisan support the left is really really going to hate her. it won't matter what she gets the republicans to give up - any concession or negotiation will be seen as a betrayal.

Mordy, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link

http://www.wbtv.com/story/32736823/lawsuit-trump-campaign-failed-to-act-after-staffer-pulled-gun

CHARLOTTE, NC (WBTV) - A lawsuit filed by a former staffer on Donald J. Trump’s campaign for president claims the campaign’s then-North Carolina State Director pulled a gun on him and senior campaign officials refused to do anything about it.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

good job everyone, can we lock the thread now?

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Sunday, 11 September 2016 23:18 (seven years ago) link

I said we needed a new thread 100 posts ago fwiw

Οὖτις, Sunday, 11 September 2016 23:19 (seven years ago) link

Well that escalated quickly

please don't anybody use this line any more, thanks

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 11 September 2016 23:30 (seven years ago) link

"Guys, guys, look at us..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asM056FLmg0

nickn, Sunday, 11 September 2016 23:47 (seven years ago) link

cumstaun

Treeship, Sunday, 11 September 2016 23:56 (seven years ago) link

money shot

serge thoroughgoods (will), Monday, 12 September 2016 00:08 (seven years ago) link

nice

Treeship, Monday, 12 September 2016 00:09 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

Treeship, Monday, 12 September 2016 00:10 (seven years ago) link


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