HÜSKER PÖLL: Warehouse - Songs and Stories

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You're half right.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2016 13:04 (seven years ago) link

sides 3 & 4: mostly terrific
sides 1 & 2: mostly boring

Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:50 (seven years ago) link

Sides 1-4 all awesome

Yes it has pickles and chicken...but...it doesn't have mild cheese... (stevie), Thursday, 11 August 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link

CAG and FYW are my favorite Husker albums.

Same here! I'd probably rank this one third - it's great but there are definitely a few songs I could lose - I've got to admit I've no idea why You Can Live at Home is so well-liked. That bassline is so clunky! Also I just think the vocal fade-out of Up in the Air would be a perfect album/career closer.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 11 August 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Teasing: https://twitter.com/numerogroup/status/777259538776854528

mick signals, Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:26 (seven years ago) link

If it's what I heard a few years ago it's a full scale remasters/reissues of the catalog plus all sorts of extras

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:34 (seven years ago) link

Remasters you say???

If these albums are actually remastered--as in, you can play them without getting a headache--I will write Numero a blank check

Wimmels, Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:36 (seven years ago) link

Wow numero group???

This is exciting

I just realized the idea of huskers demos would be really enticing to me. I hope there's demos in the extras.

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:04 (seven years ago) link

the idea of non-spot (and non-warners-80s-glossy) huskers albums is both thrilling and terrifying to me.

a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:05 (seven years ago) link

Extras/demos are very appealing but spending $$$ on music I already know by heart, less so.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:41 (seven years ago) link

Interesting. The post mentions "seven years in the making." The first I'd heard of anything re: Numero and Husker Du was back in 2012, I'd say, but when I asked Mould for confirmation then the best he would give was that all three members of HD were for the first time sharing the same legal representation. Which is not nothing. Why now and not then, though, I dunno.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 September 2016 03:27 (seven years ago) link

It could be! So hard to say. Also, my comment upthread about remasters... That was the plan at some point I think, keep in mind grant hart is involved in all these decisions so things can be.... fluid I would imagine

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 18 September 2016 12:58 (seven years ago) link

I always heard Mould was the sticking point, that for the longest time he wanted control of the masters in exchange for his Ok.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 September 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link

yeah that could be, they both seemed to shit on greg a couple years ago in the press, too so who know if that was part of it

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 September 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link

I'd always heard that the masters were shitty and that remastering them wouldn't make the sound any better. I think that was Mould's take over the years.

But after hearing the cleanup on the Beatles' Live At the Hollywood Bowl, it seems that technology is going to allow some true turd polishing.

Also:

https://twitter.com/numerogroup/status/778368625849864192

Brevs Mekis (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 02:26 (seven years ago) link

Jeepers. Too bad they waited until no one pays for music anymore.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 04:07 (seven years ago) link

feel like the target market for that husker set is literally the only people who pay for music anymore

a (waterface), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 13:09 (seven years ago) link

was gonna say

I cry, and watch my DivX's of Brass Eye to console myself.... (stevie), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 13:58 (seven years ago) link

why are we assuming it's a box set?

I actually hope it isn't

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 14:44 (seven years ago) link

Numero has teased demos and New Day Rising so far; I can't imagine they'll release them separately.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 14:50 (seven years ago) link

it's just that I can probably only afford the paid-download option (bc I can chip away at it album by album), and if it's a box I won't be able to afford that either

My disposable income is 20 dollars a month at most rn

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 14:52 (seven years ago) link

the great thing about numero is it will be in print for some time--i save up for their pricier box sets myself and then splurge

a (waterface), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

Gonna start a "never remaster HD" campaign

you can't drowned a duck (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 16:34 (seven years ago) link

Bleh I'm seeing that numero doesn't even have a pay to download option by itself. You have to buy the physical (presumably LP only?) to be able to download.

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

yeah good point i think they just did that

a (waterface), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link

not from Numero, but missed this when it was announced (Walker Art Center is putting out the record):

Join us in the gallery as Yousif Del Valle performs the complete drum track from the newly released, limited-edition LP Land Speed Record. A set by his thrash metal band Hate Beast follows.

The limited-edition, clear vinyl LP contains a rendition of Hüsker Dü’s original drum track played by Del Valle and recorded live at 7th St Entry on April 14, 2016. Published by the Walker, the album serves as the catalogue for Larson’s exhibition and includes liner note essays by Walker exhibition curator Siri Engberg, Walker artistic director Fionn Meade, independent curator Dieter Roelstraete, and Rev. Russell Rathbun, founding preacher at St. Paul’s House of Mercy. A separate, deluxe edition of the LP additionally features a color photograph, signed and numbered by Larson, of the salvaged objects from the home of Hüsker Dü drummer Grant Hart, which are the subject of his film on view in the Walker galleries.

Available in the Walker Shop, this 2016 LP release coincides with the 35th anniversary of Hüsker Dü’s Land Speed Record and Del Valle’s in-gallery performance. Album $19.81 ($17.83 Walker members); deluxe edition $500 ($450).

by the light of the burning Citroën, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link

three years pass...

I give ranking this album a go.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 April 2020 01:28 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Can we talk about the bridge in "No Reservations" (from 1:35 - 2:47):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyOnt77oSOg

I think I'm picking up 4 guitar tracks:
1) there's the up-stroke beeping pulse
2) then there's 2 (reversed?) kinda "glide-guitar" (to borrow a name for a technique that would show up a year or two later on MBV's Isn't Anything).
3) once Bob's vox come in there's this strong, deep drone descending from C#m-B-A-E pedaling over the chiming open b-e strings.

It's one of the more psychedelic & noisy moments on the record and I'm trying to draw parallels to earlier predecessors like the 2nd half of Wire's "The 15th" but "No Reservations" is far more blurry & hazy. What other art-rock has a similar feel or plays in a similar space?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 20 June 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link

I missed this one but I probably would have picked "Ice Cold Ice" even though the live version on The Living End is better than the version on the album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHoYXSdhjAQ

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 20 June 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link

XP - Perhaps the (unjustly) forgotten about live record from Rain Parade, Beyond The Sunset, may have similar things going on?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slNikQBXKCA

Maresn3st, Saturday, 20 June 2020 22:58 (three years ago) link

What an album. Bed of Nails is the only dud. Bob should've let Grant have another one in its place.

Boring, Maryland, Sunday, 21 June 2020 00:13 (three years ago) link

This album weirdly presages not just (aspects of) shoe gaze, but also the all-treble sound of a lot of '90s Brit rock.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 June 2020 00:19 (three years ago) link

That section *does* sound a lot like parts of Isn't Anything. I listened to Warehouse a lot right when it came out and very little since. Spot's production never bothered me, but these interesting bits wash out on the late records. I only tenuously heard a HU-MBV connection by the time the time MBV came on my radar a year after HD was kaput. If Isn't Anything pulls a lot from Husker Du sonics, it also lets go of traditional Beatles/Buzzcocks song conventions, which Mould and Hart kept emphasizing more and more. Like, "Feed Me with Your Kiss" is easy to imagine as a late Du track, with the storm of fuzz and drawled vocals, but what sets it free is the conceptual bit with the incrementing count of blam-blam-blams. "From the Gut" Huskers might have done something like that, but not the final stage of the band.

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Monday, 22 June 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link

I always thought this captured something of shoe gaze:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzzP29fw930

fwiw "Psychocandy" came out two months later.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 June 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link

What other art-rock has a similar feel or plays in a similar space?

Maybe some of the songs with layered guitar segments on third and fourth Camper Van Beethoven albums?

timellison, Monday, 22 June 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

(The self-titled one and Our Beloved Revolutionary Sweetheart)

timellison, Monday, 22 June 2020 20:57 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Very overdue, but thanks for all your replies (esp. bendy, Josh, tim). I realized in retrospect that Bob came back to this proto-shoegaze sound for Sugar (post-shoegaze?) which is kinda awkward.... yet I think the moments on the Sugar records that get psych-gaze are not sloppy enough for me to love, which is why I keep coming back to "No Reservations".

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Ok hold on a second!

From a Kevin Shields interview on how he created the MBV "glide-guitar" sound:

So I'd been playing the song 'Slow', and previously I'd been using this reverse reverb which I'd read about in a Bob Mould interview

https://thequietus.com/articles/08745-kevin-shields-interview-mbv-my-bloody-valentine

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 3 September 2020 06:15 (three years ago) link

lol, Josh in Chicago from 4 years ago upthread:

Apparently Mould was also doing proto MBV stuff (slowing guitars down, blending them) pretty early, which maybe in those days accounted for his stun guitar sound. I know Shields has cited a Mould interview for giving him the idea of using reverse reverb. Billy Corgan cites Mould, too.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, August 8, 2016 7:59 AM (four years ago)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 3 September 2020 06:19 (three years ago) link

I seem to remember reading in Tape Op or somewhere that it was a rackmount fx unit, Alesis Midiverb II that had a short reverse reverb setting that inspired the glide guitar sound.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 3 September 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link

Any deep Husker fans know of any earlier reverse reverb examples prior to "No Reservations"?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 3 September 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

And what the hell is "stun guitar" anyway? The only other place I've seen it referenced is on Blue Oyster Cult album credits.

henry s, Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

There's a guitar part during the intro to Eiffel Tower High that sounds a bit reverse reverbish

this is my clean tone (NickB), Thursday, 3 September 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

Also Don't Know Yet off Flip Your Wig has a lot of backwards guitar but whether or not that's rev reverb I don't know. They obv played the tape backwards for the cymbals though

this is my clean tone (NickB), Thursday, 3 September 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link


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