I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wLHAkMhwyM

this shit makes my blood boil

(Adagio for Strings plays in the background)

yeah, the thing about that article is that it wants to make you sympathetic to clinton but it really boils down to "she's a bit greedy"

x-post

it's obvious he just says whatever will get a crowd response. if they like something enough, he ups the ante right away, or next time. if they cheered when he started talking about how he's going to rid gardens of snails, that would become a part of his stump speech.

i don't know. these statements seem somewhat calculated -- he always phrases things in a vague enough way to have plausible deniability, but his supporters steal hear the intended message loud and clear. "i was just saying ISIS honors obama because his strategy in iraq enabled their rise. how dare you try to claim i was implying anything to the contrary!"

then he gets to blame the "crooked media" for "twisting his words" and they respond by debating what he really meant and voila, trump dominates the news cycle. if he does so by sinking further in the mud, he also creates the illusion that the media and his opponent are down there with him too. he does this same thing like every single day

http://www.youtube.com/v/7wLHAkMhwyM&fs=1&hl=en

I read the transcript of this and could not believe it was real and not one of those Owen Ellickson tweets

what does it say that this doesn't shock me at all?

I think I'm well past the point of having an emotional response to these statements anymore, and just react to them tactically/strategically. And they're utterly baffling. (Because we're well past the Republican primaries when such statements clearly worked, even if it took everyone, me included, a long time for that to click in.)

It does, probably, push the second-amendment stuff to the side. To what purpose, I'm not sure. It's neither "better" nor "worse"; all it does is guarantee another day or two of Trump's surrogates trying to explain what he really meant. There are three months until the election. Two days don't matter, unless you start adding up two plus two again and again.

Seems about right:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/

I can't wait for the moment in the debate when Trump blames Hillary for ISIS and Hillary responds, "they literally use your face and your words in their recruitment videos"

God I hope she does. I hope she tells him to shut the fuck up. It would help

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/10/people-love-it-when-donald-trump-makes-fun-of-journalists-except-one-in-particular/

Xxxxxxxxxposts Karl Malone u r funny!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/07/22/actor-michael-caine-says-he-changed-his-name-to-michael-caine-because-of-isis/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandomuk_1_na

Do we know how many other people are crossing our borders with assumed names?! How many liars and cheaters are roaming free on our streets, with no accountability? Bring this Michael Caine in for further questioning, find out who funds him, and then bomb them!

"Michael Caine bomb" About 465,000 results (0.41 seconds)

In an appearance on CNBC, Donald Trump reiterated his claim at a campaign rally in Florida on Wednesday that Barack Obama is the “founder of ISIS,” as was Hillary Clinton. “What,” Trump asked on Thursday morning, “are people complaining that I said he was the founder of ISIS?”

“In sports they have awards—he gets the Most Valuable Player award,” Trump said. “Him and Hillary. She gets it too.”

how quickly we forget jihadi john :(

I know this was mentioned in the other thread before it was locked, but worth memorializing:

Mr. Trump also found himself in an awkward camera framing immediately after criticizing the Clinton campaign for the appearance of Seddique Mir Mateen, the father of the Pulse gunman, at Mrs. Clinton’s campaign event this week. “Wasn’t it terrible when the father of the animal that killed these wonderful people in Orlando was sitting with a big smile on his face right behind Hillary Clinton?” Mr. Trump said.

Yet sitting behind Mr. Trump was Mark Foley, a former Republican congressman who resigned after being confronted with sexually explicit messages he had sent to underage congressional pages. Mr. Trump seemed not to be aware of the disgraced former congressman’s presence as he tried to cast doubt on the Clinton campaign’s account that it had not known who Mr. Mateen was. “When you get those seats, you sort of know the campaign,” Mr. Trump said.

"I'm a truth teller. All I do is tell the truth. And if at the end of 90 days, I've fallen short because I'm somewhat politically correct even though I'm supposed to be the smart one and even though I'm supposed to have a lot of good ideas, it's OK. I go back to a very good way of life."

^^ I actually thought that was a fake quote until I came across the CNBC interview this morning. We should come up with a special Real-Donald-Trump font from here on in.

http://digitaldeconstruction.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Paint-With-Donald-Trump.png

He's like a malfunctioning bot at this point, spewing magnetic poetry pieces intermixed with the occasional fringe-y retweet to keep people's interest.

I bet a simple neural network could emulate Trump-speak pretty quickly, given it doesn't ever have actually make sense or follow any sort of sentence structure.

It's true. Sad!

xp https://twitter.com/deepdrumpf

http://time.com/4447985/inside-donald-trump-meltdown/

This "eh, either I win or I get to do some mad chillaxing" trip he's on is the tack of of a presidential candidate who a) is preparing to lose and b) isn't that concerned about losing.

He was also preparing to lose when he was prematurely speculating about the election being rigged.

he cares. it sounds like "i'm not even mad"

"it doesn't ever have actually make sense"

That's partly why OL's quote confused me--Trump thinks he's going to lose because he's "somewhat politically correct"?! What does that mean? That he has even harder truths that he has been thoughtfully shielding us from?

The self-styled law-and-order candidate attacked fire marshals for turning away supporters when his venues hit capacity

Hah, I forgot about this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cplb_HwXYAQZVk_.jpg:small

poor hugh hewitt

can't believe he's giving the MVP to two people -- what is this, a trophy for participating?

Of all his delusions, the biggest may be this idea that after November, he can just go back to being Donald Trump, Awesome Billionaire. His business interests have been irreparably damaged by this whole thing. There's only one bank in the world that'll loan him money, and by the end they're probably gonna cut him loose, too.

The thread title reminds me of "Helter Skelter":

When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the slide
Where I stop and I turn and I go for a ride
Till I get to the bottom and I see you again

And "helter skelter" is as good a description as any of Trump the strategist.

Looking forward now to Hugh Hewitt's next CNN appearance. ("I tried, I tried... god knows I've tried.")

xpost Yeah, Deutsche Bank is trying to improve their image, and refusing to do any more business with Trump would be a great start.

I'm almost completely certain that Trump read some reactionary tweet saying that Obama founded ISIS and now he's just parroting that. Dumb as a post, this guy.

That Time article is great. Love this quote in particular:

At Clinton headquarters in Brooklyn, aides still nursing scars from skirmishes with Bernie Sanders marveled at their good fortune. As in all campaigns, researchers watch every public event, read every interview, archive every tweet. “On other campaigns, we would have to scrounge for crumbs,” says a senior Clinton adviser. “Here, it’s a fire hose. He can set himself on fire at breakfast, kill a nun at lunch and waterboard a puppy in the afternoon. And that doesn’t even get us to prime time.”

Speaking of neural networks, I wonder if someone can get him to retweet a clickotron.com headline. And then cite it as a source for some obliquely related statement later.

“What Trump campaign?” one swing-state Senate campaign manager snapped at a volunteer recently. “We have more offices than they do.”

https://twitter.com/colvinj/status/763730093961347072

when trump thinks something is going to cost less than everyone else, that's when people go bankrupt, including him and the people he works for.

^^ me writing good adverts hire me.

lol

https://twitter.com/JaxAlemany/status/763704123221012480
https://twitter.com/jimgeraghty/status/763712162498043904

Has he ever been confronted with the actual costs and logistics of building the wall in reality? Just curious.

I don't know when/if 'journalists' are ever going to stop treating Trump like some inscrutable sphinx whose words have actual intention behind them.

INTERVIEWER: When you say "I'm a pony", I understand that you mean that you'll be a workhorse for the American people and carry the load as president of the country.

TRUMP: No, I mean I'm a pony. I'm a horse. I sleep in a barn, I wear a saddle, I have a mane. I'm a pony. And Hillary is responsible for every presidential assassination in history.

INTERVIEWER: Okay, so...you mean that her policies somehow honor those who've assassinated presidents in the past?

TRUMP: I mean that she can travel through time and that she's killed lots of presidents. Lots of people are talking about it. Sad!

ha, that happened this morning https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/763742757143863297

Trump's speech is a dialectic between the figurative and the literal.

(xxpost) Brilliant!

For party officials, the Trump campaign has become like the sign inside factories: X days without an accident, with the tally regularly resetting to zero. “I think what he wants to do and what he does do are two different things,” says another senior GOP official.

Yes. He wants to be a winner but all he does is lose. The most beautiful part of all of this is that he actually, scarily had a chance, and the erosion of the chance he had is entirely his doing.

Threadban Iago and dropkick him off the fucking planet.

That's all I'm saying. Screaming sexist at anyone who dares to resist Clinton isn't exactly heroic itt.

― schwantz, Sunday, September 11, 2016 11:34 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dares to resist? god. being a petulant man-baby and being sexist aren't exactly the same thing, like technically you can separate them out, but they're usually not far from each other.

Threadban Iago and dropkick him off the fucking planet.

― Neanderthal, Sunday, September 11, 2016 11:50 PM (fifty-five seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

would you shut the fuck up? like go back to chainposting on your shitty religion thread.

Eat my dick

You are a fucking cumstaun

*stain

Sheesh, I'm voting for her, but the tedious echo chamber itt is pretty much self-parodic at this point.

You are a worthless piece of shit

Xpost not you Schwantz

Was gonna say!

Yer fine.

pleased to have gotten first hurl in this shitfight

Fuck you too

Back to RedZone...

:D

I know where the bottom is

I dunno what the fuck the point of existing is. Humanity is garbage. Fuck this thread.

I don't know either but it's def not to post on message boards. Let's all go outside.

Well that escalated quickly

good job everyone, can we lock the thread now?

I said we needed a new thread 100 posts ago fwiw

Well that escalated quickly

please don't anybody use this line any more, thanks

"Guys, guys, look at us..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asM056FLmg0

cumstaun

https://lumiere-a.akamaihd.net/v1/images/databank_tauntaun_01_169_b7307446.jpeg?region=0%2C49%2C1560%2C780

money shot

nice

http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

*whacks reset button*

I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget