even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

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Mrs. Clinton had become a partner at the Rose Law Firm in 1979, and during these lean years she balanced her work there with caring for Chelsea, who celebrated her first birthday and learned to walk in the Hillcrest house, on Midland Street. She often felt on her own as Mr. Clinton crisscrossed the state, friends said.

She increased her hours to bring in work for the firm, with business not as easy to come by now that she was no longer the governor’s wife.

http://southcarolina1670.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/great-depression-family.jpg

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 20:22 (seven years ago) link

lol estela :)

flopson, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link

Despite choosing a life in government, she has appeared eager to make money

amazing

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:04 (seven years ago) link

i don't know where else to put this, it's kind of amazing

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/nyregion/metropolitan-diary-a-light-across-the-rooftops.html

Dear Diary:

Hey there at 3 a.m.
I see your light across the black rooftops.
It doesn’t beckon.
It says quite simply
I’m here.

You are also awake,
for whatever reason
the light goes on to tell me.
O.K., I am up too
For my own reasons.

So, you at 44th Street
And I at 41st,
Well we share
the dark city.
That’s something.

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:37 (seven years ago) link

i'm not from new york or anything but my understanding was that it doesn't sleep?

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:40 (seven years ago) link

just a couple of midtown high rise residents thinking baout things

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:42 (seven years ago) link

I like to imagine that she's addressing her diary all throughout.

jmm, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link

Your college freshman kid's basic dorm room essentials: $350 headphones and an Alexa

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/technology/personaltech/off-to-college-maybe-these-devices-should-go-along.html?_r=0

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 12 August 2016 02:24 (seven years ago) link

quid/ag for sure, but what really set my gears to grinding was the suggestion that a tablet would be a great medium for liberal arts students writing papers. god help us. also lol at the suggestion of a $55 electric kettle for making cup-o-noodles.

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Friday, 12 August 2016 02:30 (seven years ago) link

those are all the wirecutter's standard recommendations for wealthy bay are tech workers, which makes sense cos the wirecutter is brian chen's website

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 12 August 2016 02:32 (seven years ago) link

tbh even the idea that you have to have a coffee-making device of whatever sort in the dorms ticks me off. just shuffle blearily over to the dining hall and drink the swill from the machine there, you'll make friends.

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Friday, 12 August 2016 02:33 (seven years ago) link

Trump tells the Miami Herald it would "be fine" if American terror suspects were tried before military tribunals. gee, sounds great. also:

Trump spoke to the Herald at the Fontainebleau Hotel, steps from the shoreline and not far from streets the city of Miami Beach has spent millions of dollars elevating to fend off rising seas.

“I’m not a big believer in man-made climate change,” Trump said, despite vast scientific evidence to the contrary. “There could be some impact, but I don’t believe it’s a devastating impact.”

bonuses: some really garbled stuff on cuba and venezuela. the paper, refreshingly, points out many of the things that don't make any sense or are in conflict with reality. the cuba stuff in particular sounds like it would be a real problem for him trying to scrape up republican votes in miami, but i don't really know the ins and outs of the reparations question.

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Friday, 12 August 2016 02:41 (seven years ago) link

quid/ag for sure, but what really set my gears to grinding was the suggestion that a tablet would be a great medium for liberal arts students writing papers. god help us. also lol at the suggestion of a $55 electric kettle for making cup-o-noodles.

― Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a gooseneck kettle for ur single estate, pour-over cup-o-noodles

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 12 August 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link

also a fucking breville toaster, jesus I thought that was like a yuppie-level appliance.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 12 August 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

oops sorry for misposted trump stuff above

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Friday, 12 August 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link

Those punchably awful neo-Victorian fucks are at it again. For those not willing to read what amounts to a self-righteous Yelp review padded out to the length of a Victorian serialized novel, they were denied entry to a garden attraction that does not permit visitors "in costume." Clearly, a massive human rights violation. As a friend of a friend points out, sadly Mr. Victorian did not bring his gramophone or wax cylinders, so we have to rely entirely on their account of the conversation with staff, which does not exactly have the ring of truth.

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 19:25 (seven years ago) link

lol port townsend.

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link

something this lady and i have in common is we've both set novels in fictionalized versions of port townsend, but i think there's prob a difference in tone.

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link

Those punchably awful neo-Victorian fucks are at it again. For those not willing to read what amounts to a self-righteous Yelp review padded out to the length of a Victorian serialized novel, they were denied entry to a garden attraction that does not permit visitors "in costume." Clearly, a massive human rights violation. As a friend of a friend points out, sadly Mr. Victorian did not bring his gramophone or wax cylinders, so we have to rely entirely on their account of the conversation with staff, which does not exactly have the ring of truth.

― Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, August 16, 2016 2:25 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
people that YELP are scumbags

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link

this isn't really quiddities of the ruling class, these people, insufferable though they are, are poor.

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link

though hats off to the butchart gardens for denying them admittance!

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link

dalliances and fancies of the bourgeoisie

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link

ehhh this is the thread that has had the most extended discussion of the chrismans, figured it was fair game here. also i know poverty takes many forms but if you can manage all the frills and vests, and go around giving talks on the history of the bicycle.... i dunno. the poverty of the bohemian freelancer i guess.

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link

in their storytelling people only bark, spit, or sneer, never 'speak'

chinavision!, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:19 (seven years ago) link

it's exhausting

chinavision!, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link

ehhh this is the thread that has had the most extended discussion of the chrismans, figured it was fair game here. also i know poverty takes many forms but if you can manage all the frills and vests, and go around giving talks on the history of the bicycle.... i dunno. the poverty of the bohemian freelancer i guess.

― Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, August 16, 2016 3:09 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Typical reactionary argument -- "Oh if you're so poor then maybe you should give up the bustles!"

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:22 (seven years ago) link

in their storytelling people only bark, spit, or sneer, never 'speak'

well, they do:

"You know what the worst part is?" I asked, leaning against his support. "The absolute worst part is that every time something like this happens, I hear the voices —a whole chorus of voices— of every single person who's told me they wish they could do something outside the mainstream, but they feel like they can't. This sort of thing is exactly why they feel that they can't. I hate it." My tears started flowing more heavily.

"I know —I understand," Gabriel told me. "But listen: we are the way we are because it's who we want to be, but we do it for those people, too. Not for that sort—" He pointed back towards the gate. "We do it to show people who want to be themselves that it is possible to be an individual, and that people don't just have to conform and squish themselves into the mold of what society dictates that they should be. That's exactly the sort of firm principle we were trying to explain we represent." He squeezed my shoulder. "And we don't back down."

There is a pride in that.

On the ride back to town, I quietly recited Rudyard Kipling's poem, "If":

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link

more like "Whiff" .... of b.o.

bagging area (map), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link

She decided to find out what $400,000 would buy elsewhere in Brooklyn. “I am a person who can make a lot out of nothing,”

qualx, Saturday, 20 August 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link

who decorated in a contemporary Scandinavian style

qualx, Saturday, 20 August 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

At a one-bedroom in Crown Heights, she realized how far the neighborhood was from work and friends. With some subway trains out of service that day, the trip was lengthy and confusing.

, Saturday, 20 August 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i'm not gonna click on this but

Postcards From the Hajj

Amid two million other pilgrims, a Times correspondent performed the sacred rites of the hajj. Although helicopter rides and other V.I.P. perks eased the process a little.

j., Wednesday, 14 September 2016 02:04 (seven years ago) link

the luxe hajj

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 02:19 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtOg8K8XgAARBOJ.jpg:small

mookieproof, Monday, 26 September 2016 14:50 (seven years ago) link

not to be confused with that other asshole dog

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 05:16 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

Forget ‘Pat the Bunny.’ My Child Is Reading Hemingway.

Alice Hemmer’s favorite part of Jack Kerouac’s novel “On the Road” doesn’t involve the drug-addled cross-country road trips, encounters with prostitutes in Mexico or wild parties in Manhattan. Alice, who is 5 and lives in a Chicago suburb, likes the part when Sal Paradise eats ice cream and apple pie whenever he feels hungry.

She hasn’t actually read Kerouac’s 320-page, amphetamine-fueled, stream-of-consciousness classic. (Alice is a precocious reader, but not that precocious.) Instead, her father read her a heavily abridged and sanitized illustrated version of “On the Road” designed for six- to 12-year-old children.

“She didn’t love it,” said her father, Kurt Hemmer, an English professor at Harper College and scholar of the Beat Generation, who noted that even some college students failed to appreciate the novel’s subtle spiritual message. “To really grasp it, you need to be a bit more mature.”

na (NA), Monday, 19 December 2016 17:02 (seven years ago) link

bc everyone knows the value of great novels not from the language or characterization but from the bare bones of their plots

na (NA), Monday, 19 December 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link

I mean this is dumb but I read plenty of abridged versions of classic novels when I was a kid

Number None, Monday, 19 December 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

we have the pride & prejudice board book that someone gave us but it's basically just a counting book using aspects of P&P for the things you count. it doesn't try to summarize the plot or anything.

na (NA), Monday, 19 December 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link

i still know the plots of any number of "great books" solely through classics illustrated

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Monday, 19 December 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

http://www.dinneralovestory.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Great-Illustrated-Classics-1024x865.jpg

I had a few of these. My mother called them "cheaty books."

mega pegasus for reindeer (Doctor Casino), Monday, 19 December 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link

i think all the books you guys are talking about differ from what's being discussed in that article pretty significantly

na (NA), Monday, 19 December 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link

I was specifically responding to

bc everyone knows the value of great novels not from the language or characterization but from the bare bones of their plots

kid's version of On The Road is probably an improvement tbh

Number None, Monday, 19 December 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link

My mom was one of those people with inordinate faith in "classics" being some kind of brain pill. I think it partially ruined reading for me.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 December 2016 19:01 (seven years ago) link

not sure if this fits better itt or somewhere else but hey it's a nytimes puff piece on megyn kelly, ughhh http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/17/fashion/megyn-kelly-fox-fashion.html

marcos, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:08 (seven years ago) link

“To really grasp it, you need to be a bit more mature.”

jesus, more like you have to be 16.

scott seward, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link

English professors who specialize in Beatnik books. one of the sadder things i can think of. you only have one life on this earth.

scott seward, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link


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