PINK FLOYD

Point Me At The Sky again! Has that been re-released any time other than the early singles CD bonus that came with the old box set?

hmmm..

Disc: 1
1. Arnold Layne (2016 Remastered Version)
2. See Emily Play (2016 Remastered Version)
3. Matilda Mother (2010 Remix) [2016 Remastered Version]
4. Jugband Blues (2010 Remix)
5. Paintbox (2016 Remastered Version)
6. Flaming (BBC Session, 25 September 1967)
7. In The Beechwoods (2010 Mix)
8. Point Me At The Sky (2016 Remastered Version)
9. Careful With That Axe, Eugene (Single Version) [2016 Remastered Version]
10. Embryo (From 'Picnic')
11. Ummagumma Radio Ad (Capitol US)
12. Grantchester Meadows (BBC Session, 12 May 1969)
13. Cymbaline (BBC Session, 12 May 1969)
14. Interstellar Overdrive (Live At The Paradiso, Amsterdam, 9 August 1969)
15. Green Is The Colour (BBC Session, 12 May 1969)
16. Careful With That Axe, Eugene (BBC Session, 12 May 1969)

Disc: 2
1. On The Highway (Zabriskie Point Remix)
2. Auto Scene Version 2 (Zabriskie Point Remix)
3. The Riot Scene (Zabriskie Point Remix)
4. Looking At Map (Zabriskie Point Remix)
5. Take Off (Zabriskie Point Remix)
6. Embryo (BBC Radio Session, 16 July 1970)
7. Atom Heart Mother (Live In Montreux, 21 November 1970)
8. Nothing Part 14
9. Childhood's End (2016 Remix)
10. Free Four (2016 Remix)
11. Stay (2016 Remix)

Full track list here: http://www.pinkfloyd.com/news/pdfs/Complete_Early_Years_Box_Track_Listing.pdf

Haven't seen anyone able to make the math work to get to the alleged 27 disc count.

think they're including the 7 inches in the disc count
that 2 CD thing looks like a great listen -- though LOL at them not putting vegetable man on there. that one's gonna cost ya!

What does John Latham signify? are those different takes on well known songs or something? Think it's on disc 2 and there's a stack of them

I'm guessing that final disc "CONTINu?ATION" are crummy sounding stuff.

Like that last disc on the bigfat Dylan box, recently.

xpost probably un-named improvisations.

looks like an unreleased soundtrack thing from 1967?
ohn Latham was one of the more controversial conceptual artists in the 1960's (think Yoko Ono, Fluxus). A couple of Latham's films, most notably Speak, were projected behind the Floyd's live set at the International Times launch at the Roundhouse in October '66 and later at a few shows in early 1967. He also had something to do with a 1/67 gig at the Commonworth Institute in London. It was mentoned in a local paper but the description it pretty vague. Anthony Stern thought he did some sort of set design. Back to the soundtrack..

Speak is an 11 minute animated film that was known for it's intense flicker/strobe effect when shown in London area psychedelic clubs. That being the case Latham thought the Floyd would be a good match for its soundtrack.

Near the end of the 10/67 De Lane Lea sessions (which produced Jugband Blues, Remember a Day, Vegetable Man and Beechwoods) the Syd led Floyd set aside some time to take a stab at recording a soundtrack for the film. A recording was completed and submitted to Latham but he rejected it.*

Unfortunately neither the film nor the Floyd's soundtrack have circulated. The soundtrack does survive on a 1/2" 4 track reel and is stored with the rest of Pink Floyd's early recordings at EMI and is logged as "John Latham"**. Norman Smith produced and one M. Cooper was the engineer. Nothing has been done with the reel since 1967.

What is interesting is the band thought enough of the recording to give to Latham. That and ever thing that was recorded at quick De Lane Lea sessions is ****ing great. Someone shoud bring this to Nick's or Paul Loasby's attention. Nick probably forgot all about it.

Latham was some kind of conceptual artist and film maker. Floyd recorded a brief soundtrack for one of his films but it was never released.

xps

Short Version.

Some of those videos seem new to me

That 2cd looks pretty sweet. No apples and oranges is kind of a big deal though.

Yeah will probably do what I did with the Dylan set san dget the 2cd when they release that. See what other media things are around in and probably see about getting at least the first couple of separate sets when they get released. It said something about them coming out in 2017 so wondering if that is all at the same time or over a prolonged period.

Shame that the BBC Syd appears to be on the set that is exclusive to the full box though.

People are saying elsewhere taht there may be smaller reproductions of some of the extras on the individual releases. It apparently stresses that the full size replicas will only be available with the full box which is a weird wording/emphasis

CD 1:
1965 Recordings*:
1. Lucy Leave* 2.57
2. Double O Bo* 2.57
3. Remember Me* 2.46
4. Walk With Me Sydney* 3.11
5. Butterfly* 3.00
6. I’m A King Bee* 3.13
7. Arnold Layne 2.57
8. See Emily Play 8.57
9. Apples And Oranges 3.05
10. Candy And A Currant Bun 2.45
11. Paintbox 3.48
12. Matilda Mother (2010 mix) 4.01
13. Jugband Blues (2010 mix)† 3.01
14. In The Beechwoods (2010 mix)† 4.43
15. Vegetable Man (2010 mix)† 2.32
16. Scream Thy Last Scream (2010 mix)† 4.43

Total: 50 mins, 32 secs approx.
Tracks 1-11 mono.
Tracks 12-16 stereo

CD 2:
Live in Stockholm 1967:
1. Introduction†0.25
2. Reaction in G†7.18
3. Matilda Mother†5.34
4. Pow R. Toc H.†11.56
5. Scream Thy Last Scream†4.00
6. Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun†7.17
7. See Emily Play†3.16
8. Interstellar Overdrive†8.57

Please note: the above tracks feature vocals recorded at a less
than optimum level

John Latham (studio recordings 1967)

9. John Latham Version 1†4.32
10. John Latham Version 2†5.06
11. John Latham Version 3†3.45
12. John Latham Version 4†2.59
13. John Latham Version 5†2.48
14. John Latham Version 6†3.17
15. John Latham Version 7†2.36
16. John Latham Version 8†2.49
17. John Latham Version 9†2.38

Total: 79 mins, 13 secs approx.
Tracks 1-8 recorded live Sept 10, 1967 at Gyllene Cirkeln,
Stockholm, Sweden
Tracks 9-17 recorded at De Lane Lea Studios, London, 20 October
1967
All tracks stereo

DVD/Blu-ray
1. Chapter 24: Syd Barrett in the Gog Magog Hills, Cambridgeshire, UK 1966 / Pink Floyd at EMI Studios, London, April 1967 3.40
2. Nick’s Boogie†: recording Interstellar Overdrive and Nick’s Boogie at Sound Techniques Studio, Chelsea, January 11, 1967 / 6.36
Live at UFO, The Blarney Club, London, January 13, 1967
3. Interstellar Overdrive: ‘Scene – Underground’ UFO at The Blarney Club, London, January 27, 1967 4.15
4. Arnold Layne: promo video. Wittering Beach, UK, early 1967 2.54
5. Pow R. Toc H. / Astronomy Domine: plus Syd Barrett and Roger Waters interview: BBC ‘The Look Of The Week’ – BBC Studios, 9.22
6. The Scarecrow: ‘Pathé Pictorial’, UK, July 1967 2.05
7. Jugband Blues: ‘London Line’ promo video, 1967, London 2.58
8. Apples And Oranges: plus Dick Clark interview: ‘American Bandstand’, Los Angeles, USA, November 7, 1967 4.51
9. Instrumental Improvisation†: BBC ‘Tomorrow’s World’, London, December 12, 1967 2.11
10. Instrumental Improvisation†: ‘Die Jungen Nachtwandler’, UFO, The Blarney Club, London, February 24, 1967 4.32
11. See Emily Play: BBC ‘Top Of The Pops’ – partially restored BBC Studios, London, July 6, 1967 2.55
12. The Scarecrow (outtakes): ‘Pathé Pictorial’, UK, July 1967 2.07
13. Interstellar Overdrive: ‘Science Fiction – Das Universum Des Ichs’, The Roundhouse, London, 1967 9.33
Total: 57 mins, 59 secs approx

The first 2 discs + DVD looks like heaven. But this is based off that pdf and i only counted 19 discs total so who knows?

psyched to hear John Latham recordings, Syd + band doing a Fluxus film soundtrack, unreleased until now

See Emily Play 8.57

Misprint.

That's being debated over on Hoffman. people there are saying that the single was edited down from a much longer take.
BUt people are also saying that taht length throws off the quoted time for the full disc.

all I want are the Syd studio tracks

The live stuff by that line up will be interesting to hear in remastered sound too. But I think they were pretty good throughout this period

all I want are the Syd studio tracks

― Οὖτις, Thursday, July 28, 2016 5:58 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i am like this about any music i hear ever.

i am a total die-hard Syd fanatic. i still love other Pink Floyd (was listening to The Wall a lot last year) but he truly was something not of this world.

I just found the live set I had from the era was Copenhagen not Stockholm. They are different recordings aren't they?
THis Copenhagen one just went on and sounds great anyway. & I think it's up on Dime still.

Stockholm one is pretty heavily bootlegged.

that's the one where the vocals are pretty much inaudible right? it rules nonetheless.

Funnily enough, I was listening to The Madcap Laughs recently and 'No Good Trying' and 'Long Gone' still sound as great as ever.

I thought I had a few Syd era live sets but only found this Copenhagen one and think the vocals are pretty audible so wonder if it could be the same. Just got a Rotterdam from November taht year d/lding.
I thought I had one from the Ahoy Amsterdam too.
But hard drives have a nasty habit of crashing.

that's the one where the vocals are pretty much inaudible right? it rules nonetheless.

Yes. OTM.

I presume "She Was a Millionaire" hasn't shown up then.

The 27 discs are: 10 CDs, 8 Blu-Rays, 9 DVDs. (The 2 DVDs in the 1970 set are on 1 Blu-Ray.)

http://www.pinkfloyd.com/news/pdfs/Complete_Early_Years_Box_Track_Listing.pdf
is supposed to be the most accurate breakdown.
Shame that contents of the disc exclusive to the full box set are what they are. Would have loved to get those sessions in decent sound.

Wondering if the BBC session on the Reverberation disc was a BBC IN Concert thing since tracks seem very long to intersperse with others in a programme the way that Peel used to

fuck. this is it. this is everything that we knew existed and some stuff we didn't (video of interstellar overdrive with frank zappa?). did they get rontoon to put this together or something? i guess i will have to get this.

the sets on reverberation and deviation are both special long "in concert" recordings, hosted by john peel. the '71 session also included a blues, but that's included on continuation, erroneously credited to a '68 session.

i'm going to have to buy this. i might just have to pre-order it now.

Rontoon has contributed a lot to the thread on the Hoffman forum. I think it looks like he may have had some input into the set or at least research towards it.

who the fuck is rontoon?

He appears to be a well known Pink Floyd collector but I only know the name from the thread over on Hoffman.
I think he was talking about possibly being viewed as a bootlegger at one point.

Rontoon is the guy who originally sourced a massive, massive amount of the stuff that's going to show up on the set. Without his input a lot of the stuff that's on this set wouldn't be present, because Pink Floyd don't really have an archive as such.

Maybe it's weird of me but the thing I'm most excited about is finally getting a proper version of "Seabirds".

JESUS CHRIST @ all this

inclusion of 7" singles is kinda weird, though. this set is all about the actual content, no need to festoon it with 'collectible' crap.

for the record, the stuff from this set that I haven't heard/seen on bootlegs is:

John Latham Recordings
Song 1/Roger's Boogie
'More' Non-Album Tracks (exist only taken from the film soundtrack- and Schroeder used music wholly diegetically in that film)
Possibly some Zabriskie Point unreleased recordings? Hard to tell.
Atom Heart Mother Early Studio Version
Nothing Part 14
Obscured By Clouds 2016 Remix (if that counts..)

Interstellar Overdrive: Das Universum Des Ichs
Interstellar Overdrive with Frank Zappa
Maybe some of those Roland Petit Ballet news reports and/or "24 Hours: Bootleg Records"

so really, the vast majority of this is already circulating in pretty superb sound quality. probably just as well they threw in the "collectible" crap, particularly at that asking price. :)

Might have been mentioned upthread but this also strikes me as an all-at-once way of beating the overall 50 year copyright deadline for a few years, which is why those initial '65 sessions surfaced at the end of last year.

That's something people have been saying in the thread at Hoffman. But have been raising a few tracks that are not on this including some 66 demoes which would presumably need to be out by the end of this year.
People have posited the likelihood of a 50th anniversary Piper set to mop up even more stuff. Followed by a Saucer 50th.

I'm left wondering how many units you need to press of a release in order for it to fulfill the 50 year copyright vs public domain thing. That's in general not just this set.

15. Vegetable Man (2010 mix)† 2.32
16. Scream Thy Last Scream (2010 mix)† 4.43

Funny, they (re)mixed it in 2010, but it didn't get a release..

People have said that it could have been for the Syd best of that came out that year. But wound up being held back. I take it that's the set we got Bob Dylan Blues on instead where Syd sings the blues about wearing his Bob Dylan hat.
Was that 2010? Think its the release people have suggested things were prepared for though.

Right got th ewrong release, the one I was just talking about was 2001 I thought it was earlier than 200 anyway.
BUt there was an Introduction to Syd Barrett released in 2010 that covers Pink Floyd too
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/comp/syd_barrett/an_introduction_to_syd_barrett/
and had several tracks given fresh mixes.

Sorry, should have posted the sleeve which is presumably the other selling point for the release
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Looks like Storm Thorgersen went into decline towards the end.

Funny, that one had 'Rhamadan' as an extra track, download only.

(I'd have bought the double album if they had added that as a "side 4" track, but they didn't it just had four sides of the same tracks as the CD, making four quite short sides.

I'm trying to think of the known-to-exist (which in Pink Floyd's case has a strong overlap with "fan circulating") material _not_ appearing on this set. So far I've got:

The cut acetates of Arnold Layne/Let's Roll Another One
The instrumental version of "Vegetable Man" played by Nick Mason in a 1969 interview
The two minutes of Syd's Pink Floyd live in the 1968 film "DOPE"
There's also an alleged 1966 instrumental demo of "Let's Roll Another One" but that might be a fake.
Interstellar Overdrive (recorded at Mother's in 1969 for the "Ummagumma" live album)

Anything I'm missing?

so really, the vast majority of this is already circulating in pretty superb sound quality.

"Seabirds"?

... oh right, I see you mentioned that, ignore that post.

THis is a list that somebody on that lthread put together of things know to exist that weren't included

"Interstellar Overdrive (1966 demo) *
Untitled (Sunshine) **
Vegetable Man (alternate takes)
Jugband Blues (alternate overdubs)
Reaction In G (studio version)
Bike (RM1, alternate vocals/lyrics, no harmonium)
Lucifer Sam (RM1, early version)
Chapter 24 (alt take 5)
Pow R Toc H (RM1, alt mix)
The Gnome (alt mix)
Take Up Thy Stethescope and Walk (alt mix)
Interstellar Overdrive (rough mix, take 2 unedited)
Paintbox (early version)
Remember a Day (alternate mono mix)

* Bootlegged from a good tape source.
** Short fragment was bootlegged in poor quality.
Everything else is totally unheard."

I was thinking there was an Interstellar Overdrive mentioned from '66 which presumably must need to be reissued in some form by the end of the year to avoid the 50 year thing with public domain.

This guy was also saying that Joe Boyd was vehemently against releasing stereo versions of Arnold Layne and Candy and a Currant Bun

oh yeah, forgot about that '66 interstellar overdrive (also heard on the soundtrack to the film "San Francisco", and as heard on the Rhamadan bootleg). these alt mixes... you know, i am a huge nerd, but i do consider "alt mixes" to be the shittiest form of bonus tracks. 90% of the time they're completely functionally identical to the released versions. the alt mixes on those zep and sabbath "deluxe editions"... so boring! i'd rather listen to the 11 cd Gaseneta box set. mind you, i am a little hyped for quad atom heart mother and "echoes". if there was actually a tape of lucifer sam with "percy the ratcatcher" lyrics, or "she was a millionaire", or whatever, that'd be great, but i do consider sh.tv message board posts, even really authoritative sounding ones, with a certain amount of skepticism.

I AM ANTICIPATING THIS RELEASE QUITE HIGHLY.