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There is, but no idea what's on it:

Cre/ation - The Early Years 1967-1972
Set across 2 CD’s, Cre/ation The Early Years 1967 – 1972 charts the evolution of the band and bears witness to their part in cultural revolutions, from their earliest recordings and studio sessions to the years prior to the release of The Dark Side Of The Moon, one of the biggest selling albums of all time. From the single Arnold Layne to the 24-minute epic Echoes, fans will see the invention of psychedelic progressive rock via an insightful collection that explores the Pink Floyd story from the time Roger Waters, Richard Wright, Nick Mason and Syd Barrett met at London’s Regent Street Polytechnic, through to Syd’s departure and David Gilmour joining to form the iconic lineup.
SKU: PF_88985363142/1
$15.99

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 23:39 (seven years ago) link

hoping for a remastered version of "Scream Thy Last Scream"

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 23:53 (seven years ago) link

Page has been taken down now but is still on google cache.

They should have made two boxes, one for the Syd years and one for the early Waters years. This is too bloated.

heaven parker (anagram), Thursday, 28 July 2016 07:03 (seven years ago) link

There was a 2cd "1967-1972 Cre\Ation" set there yesterday, "From Arnold Layne to the 22 minute "Echoes" " it looked like it was all previously released stuff, although there was no track listing.

Mark G, Thursday, 28 July 2016 07:25 (seven years ago) link

Oh, you said that.

Mark G, Thursday, 28 July 2016 07:26 (seven years ago) link

I'd be into a '65-'68 set. I thought there was an Immersion set for the psychedelic era in the pipeline. Thought I'd heard various people say that in various places. So does this mean no that.

&yes way too large a set anyway. Hope they'll break it down smaller later and do it by lp or something. Would like the remastered live stuff and singles etc.

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 July 2016 08:16 (seven years ago) link

The higher the price, the more likely there'll be knockoff versions and/or downloads. Which leads to a hike in price to cover all the perceived additional listeners, and so on.

Mark G, Thursday, 28 July 2016 09:17 (seven years ago) link

It could also be considered to be a cynical ploy to make people in both the Barrett and Waters camps buy the whole set. I would jump at a '69-'72 set but I have no interest in a '65-'68 set, and I'm sure there are many (especially on ILM) who have the reverse view. This way, we have to shell out for both.

heaven parker (anagram), Thursday, 28 July 2016 09:30 (seven years ago) link

Official announcement now up:

http://www.pinkfloyd.com/

heaven parker (anagram), Thursday, 28 July 2016 13:10 (seven years ago) link

All the discs from the big box will be available individually save one, "CONTINU/ATION." Right now it's 318.40 UKP shipped to the US from Amazon UK (~$418), if you're feeling rich (of course, can always cancel your order before shipping date). Sorta tempted, even though I'd also prefer just a Syd-era set.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Thursday, 28 July 2016 13:50 (seven years ago) link

Fuck I hope rutracker or exystence still "exyst" in a couple of months

PaulTMA, Thursday, 28 July 2016 14:08 (seven years ago) link

Is this a bonus material set or one including the officially released lps?
I can't see the tracks I'm familiar with from the lps listed.
So is this analogous to the Beatles Anthology series rather than an expanded early History?

I bought the early lps when the local HMV had them on sale for the most part anyway but I'd just assumed that this was expanded reissue based rather than all bonus.

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 July 2016 14:09 (seven years ago) link

Point Me At The Sky again! Has that been re-released any time other than the early singles CD bonus that came with the old box set?

dan selzer, Thursday, 28 July 2016 14:14 (seven years ago) link

hmmm..

Disc: 1
1. Arnold Layne (2016 Remastered Version)
2. See Emily Play (2016 Remastered Version)
3. Matilda Mother (2010 Remix) [2016 Remastered Version]
4. Jugband Blues (2010 Remix)
5. Paintbox (2016 Remastered Version)
6. Flaming (BBC Session, 25 September 1967)
7. In The Beechwoods (2010 Mix)
8. Point Me At The Sky (2016 Remastered Version)
9. Careful With That Axe, Eugene (Single Version) [2016 Remastered Version]
10. Embryo (From 'Picnic')
11. Ummagumma Radio Ad (Capitol US)
12. Grantchester Meadows (BBC Session, 12 May 1969)
13. Cymbaline (BBC Session, 12 May 1969)
14. Interstellar Overdrive (Live At The Paradiso, Amsterdam, 9 August 1969)
15. Green Is The Colour (BBC Session, 12 May 1969)
16. Careful With That Axe, Eugene (BBC Session, 12 May 1969)

Disc: 2
1. On The Highway (Zabriskie Point Remix)
2. Auto Scene Version 2 (Zabriskie Point Remix)
3. The Riot Scene (Zabriskie Point Remix)
4. Looking At Map (Zabriskie Point Remix)
5. Take Off (Zabriskie Point Remix)
6. Embryo (BBC Radio Session, 16 July 1970)
7. Atom Heart Mother (Live In Montreux, 21 November 1970)
8. Nothing Part 14
9. Childhood's End (2016 Remix)
10. Free Four (2016 Remix)
11. Stay (2016 Remix)

Mark G, Thursday, 28 July 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link

Full track list here: http://www.pinkfloyd.com/news/pdfs/Complete_Early_Years_Box_Track_Listing.pdf

Haven't seen anyone able to make the math work to get to the alleged 27 disc count.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Thursday, 28 July 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link

think they're including the 7 inches in the disc count
that 2 CD thing looks like a great listen -- though LOL at them not putting vegetable man on there. that one's gonna cost ya!

tylerw, Thursday, 28 July 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link

What does John Latham signify? are those different takes on well known songs or something? Think it's on disc 2 and there's a stack of them

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 July 2016 14:53 (seven years ago) link

I'm guessing that final disc "CONTINu?ATION" are crummy sounding stuff.

Like that last disc on the bigfat Dylan box, recently.

xpost probably un-named improvisations.

Mark G, Thursday, 28 July 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link

looks like an unreleased soundtrack thing from 1967?
ohn Latham was one of the more controversial conceptual artists in the 1960's (think Yoko Ono, Fluxus). A couple of Latham's films, most notably Speak, were projected behind the Floyd's live set at the International Times launch at the Roundhouse in October '66 and later at a few shows in early 1967. He also had something to do with a 1/67 gig at the Commonworth Institute in London. It was mentoned in a local paper but the description it pretty vague. Anthony Stern thought he did some sort of set design. Back to the soundtrack..

Speak is an 11 minute animated film that was known for it's intense flicker/strobe effect when shown in London area psychedelic clubs. That being the case Latham thought the Floyd would be a good match for its soundtrack.

Near the end of the 10/67 De Lane Lea sessions (which produced Jugband Blues, Remember a Day, Vegetable Man and Beechwoods) the Syd led Floyd set aside some time to take a stab at recording a soundtrack for the film. A recording was completed and submitted to Latham but he rejected it.*

Unfortunately neither the film nor the Floyd's soundtrack have circulated. The soundtrack does survive on a 1/2" 4 track reel and is stored with the rest of Pink Floyd's early recordings at EMI and is logged as "John Latham"**. Norman Smith produced and one M. Cooper was the engineer. Nothing has been done with the reel since 1967.

What is interesting is the band thought enough of the recording to give to Latham. That and ever thing that was recorded at quick De Lane Lea sessions is ****ing great. Someone shoud bring this to Nick's or Paul Loasby's attention. Nick probably forgot all about it.

tylerw, Thursday, 28 July 2016 14:56 (seven years ago) link

Latham was some kind of conceptual artist and film maker. Floyd recorded a brief soundtrack for one of his films but it was never released.

xps

heaven parker (anagram), Thursday, 28 July 2016 14:58 (seven years ago) link

Short Version.

Mark G, Thursday, 28 July 2016 15:05 (seven years ago) link

Some of those videos seem new to me

dan selzer, Thursday, 28 July 2016 15:11 (seven years ago) link

That 2cd looks pretty sweet. No apples and oranges is kind of a big deal though.

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 July 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link

Yeah will probably do what I did with the Dylan set san dget the 2cd when they release that. See what other media things are around in and probably see about getting at least the first couple of separate sets when they get released. It said something about them coming out in 2017 so wondering if that is all at the same time or over a prolonged period.

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 July 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link

Shame that the BBC Syd appears to be on the set that is exclusive to the full box though.

People are saying elsewhere taht there may be smaller reproductions of some of the extras on the individual releases. It apparently stresses that the full size replicas will only be available with the full box which is a weird wording/emphasis

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 July 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link

CD 1:
1965 Recordings*:
1. Lucy Leave* 2.57
2. Double O Bo* 2.57
3. Remember Me* 2.46
4. Walk With Me Sydney* 3.11
5. Butterfly* 3.00
6. I’m A King Bee* 3.13
7. Arnold Layne 2.57
8. See Emily Play 8.57
9. Apples And Oranges 3.05
10. Candy And A Currant Bun 2.45
11. Paintbox 3.48
12. Matilda Mother (2010 mix) 4.01
13. Jugband Blues (2010 mix)† 3.01
14. In The Beechwoods (2010 mix)† 4.43
15. Vegetable Man (2010 mix)† 2.32
16. Scream Thy Last Scream (2010 mix)† 4.43

Total: 50 mins, 32 secs approx.
Tracks 1-11 mono.
Tracks 12-16 stereo

CD 2:
Live in Stockholm 1967:
1. Introduction†0.25
2. Reaction in G†7.18
3. Matilda Mother†5.34
4. Pow R. Toc H.†11.56
5. Scream Thy Last Scream†4.00
6. Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun†7.17
7. See Emily Play†3.16
8. Interstellar Overdrive†8.57

Please note: the above tracks feature vocals recorded at a less
than optimum level

John Latham (studio recordings 1967)

9. John Latham Version 1†4.32
10. John Latham Version 2†5.06
11. John Latham Version 3†3.45
12. John Latham Version 4†2.59
13. John Latham Version 5†2.48
14. John Latham Version 6†3.17
15. John Latham Version 7†2.36
16. John Latham Version 8†2.49
17. John Latham Version 9†2.38

Total: 79 mins, 13 secs approx.
Tracks 1-8 recorded live Sept 10, 1967 at Gyllene Cirkeln,
Stockholm, Sweden
Tracks 9-17 recorded at De Lane Lea Studios, London, 20 October
1967
All tracks stereo

DVD/Blu-ray
1. Chapter 24: Syd Barrett in the Gog Magog Hills, Cambridgeshire, UK 1966 / Pink Floyd at EMI Studios, London, April 1967 3.40
2. Nick’s Boogie†: recording Interstellar Overdrive and Nick’s Boogie at Sound Techniques Studio, Chelsea, January 11, 1967 / 6.36
Live at UFO, The Blarney Club, London, January 13, 1967
3. Interstellar Overdrive: ‘Scene – Underground’ UFO at The Blarney Club, London, January 27, 1967 4.15
4. Arnold Layne: promo video. Wittering Beach, UK, early 1967 2.54
5. Pow R. Toc H. / Astronomy Domine: plus Syd Barrett and Roger Waters interview: BBC ‘The Look Of The Week’ – BBC Studios, 9.22
6. The Scarecrow: ‘Pathé Pictorial’, UK, July 1967 2.05
7. Jugband Blues: ‘London Line’ promo video, 1967, London 2.58
8. Apples And Oranges: plus Dick Clark interview: ‘American Bandstand’, Los Angeles, USA, November 7, 1967 4.51
9. Instrumental Improvisation†: BBC ‘Tomorrow’s World’, London, December 12, 1967 2.11
10. Instrumental Improvisation†: ‘Die Jungen Nachtwandler’, UFO, The Blarney Club, London, February 24, 1967 4.32
11. See Emily Play: BBC ‘Top Of The Pops’ – partially restored BBC Studios, London, July 6, 1967 2.55
12. The Scarecrow (outtakes): ‘Pathé Pictorial’, UK, July 1967 2.07
13. Interstellar Overdrive: ‘Science Fiction – Das Universum Des Ichs’, The Roundhouse, London, 1967 9.33
Total: 57 mins, 59 secs approx

The first 2 discs + DVD looks like heaven. But this is based off that pdf and i only counted 19 discs total so who knows?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 July 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

psyched to hear John Latham recordings, Syd + band doing a Fluxus film soundtrack, unreleased until now

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 July 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

See Emily Play 8.57

Misprint.

24 Hour Sex Ban Man (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 July 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link

That's being debated over on Hoffman. people there are saying that the single was edited down from a much longer take.
BUt people are also saying that taht length throws off the quoted time for the full disc.

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 July 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link

all I want are the Syd studio tracks

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 July 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link

The live stuff by that line up will be interesting to hear in remastered sound too. But I think they were pretty good throughout this period

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 July 2016 22:10 (seven years ago) link

all I want are the Syd studio tracks

― Οὖτις, Thursday, July 28, 2016 5:58 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i am like this about any music i hear ever.

i am a total die-hard Syd fanatic. i still love other Pink Floyd (was listening to The Wall a lot last year) but he truly was something not of this world.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 July 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link

I just found the live set I had from the era was Copenhagen not Stockholm. They are different recordings aren't they?
THis Copenhagen one just went on and sounds great anyway. & I think it's up on Dime still.

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 July 2016 22:26 (seven years ago) link

Stockholm one is pretty heavily bootlegged.

24 Hour Sex Ban Man (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 July 2016 22:33 (seven years ago) link

that's the one where the vocals are pretty much inaudible right? it rules nonetheless.

tylerw, Thursday, 28 July 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link

Funnily enough, I was listening to The Madcap Laughs recently and 'No Good Trying' and 'Long Gone' still sound as great as ever.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Thursday, 28 July 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link

I thought I had a few Syd era live sets but only found this Copenhagen one and think the vocals are pretty audible so wonder if it could be the same. Just got a Rotterdam from November taht year d/lding.
I thought I had one from the Ahoy Amsterdam too.
But hard drives have a nasty habit of crashing.

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 July 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link

that's the one where the vocals are pretty much inaudible right? it rules nonetheless.

Yes. OTM.

24 Hour Sex Ban Man (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 July 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link

I presume "She Was a Millionaire" hasn't shown up then.

24 Hour Sex Ban Man (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 July 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link

The 27 discs are: 10 CDs, 8 Blu-Rays, 9 DVDs. (The 2 DVDs in the 1970 set are on 1 Blu-Ray.)

Hideous Lump, Friday, 29 July 2016 02:53 (seven years ago) link

http://www.pinkfloyd.com/news/pdfs/Complete_Early_Years_Box_Track_Listing.pdf
is supposed to be the most accurate breakdown.
Shame that contents of the disc exclusive to the full box set are what they are. Would have loved to get those sessions in decent sound.

Wondering if the BBC session on the Reverberation disc was a BBC IN Concert thing since tracks seem very long to intersperse with others in a programme the way that Peel used to

Stevolende, Friday, 29 July 2016 09:19 (seven years ago) link

fuck. this is it. this is everything that we knew existed and some stuff we didn't (video of interstellar overdrive with frank zappa?). did they get rontoon to put this together or something? i guess i will have to get this.

the sets on reverberation and deviation are both special long "in concert" recordings, hosted by john peel. the '71 session also included a blues, but that's included on continuation, erroneously credited to a '68 session.

i'm going to have to buy this. i might just have to pre-order it now.

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Sunday, 31 July 2016 22:05 (seven years ago) link

Rontoon has contributed a lot to the thread on the Hoffman forum. I think it looks like he may have had some input into the set or at least research towards it.

Stevolende, Sunday, 31 July 2016 22:33 (seven years ago) link

who the fuck is rontoon?

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 31 July 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link

He appears to be a well known Pink Floyd collector but I only know the name from the thread over on Hoffman.
I think he was talking about possibly being viewed as a bootlegger at one point.

Stevolende, Sunday, 31 July 2016 23:00 (seven years ago) link

Rontoon is the guy who originally sourced a massive, massive amount of the stuff that's going to show up on the set. Without his input a lot of the stuff that's on this set wouldn't be present, because Pink Floyd don't really have an archive as such.

Maybe it's weird of me but the thing I'm most excited about is finally getting a proper version of "Seabirds".

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Sunday, 31 July 2016 23:27 (seven years ago) link

JESUS CHRIST @ all this

brimstead, Sunday, 31 July 2016 23:52 (seven years ago) link

inclusion of 7" singles is kinda weird, though. this set is all about the actual content, no need to festoon it with 'collectible' crap.

brimstead, Sunday, 31 July 2016 23:56 (seven years ago) link

for the record, the stuff from this set that I haven't heard/seen on bootlegs is:

John Latham Recordings
Song 1/Roger's Boogie
'More' Non-Album Tracks (exist only taken from the film soundtrack- and Schroeder used music wholly diegetically in that film)
Possibly some Zabriskie Point unreleased recordings? Hard to tell.
Atom Heart Mother Early Studio Version
Nothing Part 14
Obscured By Clouds 2016 Remix (if that counts..)

Interstellar Overdrive: Das Universum Des Ichs
Interstellar Overdrive with Frank Zappa
Maybe some of those Roland Petit Ballet news reports and/or "24 Hours: Bootleg Records"

so really, the vast majority of this is already circulating in pretty superb sound quality. probably just as well they threw in the "collectible" crap, particularly at that asking price. :)

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Monday, 1 August 2016 01:55 (seven years ago) link

Might have been mentioned upthread but this also strikes me as an all-at-once way of beating the overall 50 year copyright deadline for a few years, which is why those initial '65 sessions surfaced at the end of last year.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 August 2016 02:07 (seven years ago) link


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