rereading this thread made my eye fidget
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 01:20 (seven years ago) link
absolutely fantastic that people are now saying blueface is "no keef" because he can't stay on beat:
hes no keef,thug or uzi tho dude is a parody of a rapper at best who cant stay on beat.— Lee (@FollowMMisery) December 11, 2018
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 06:46 (five years ago) link
his new one is more in that playboi carti zone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w6X_B9nVPg
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 06:55 (five years ago) link
«I don’t like» still pretty intense
― Mule, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link
new song popped up on Spotify in my release radar, but I was wondering....like what is the deal with Keef? Just seem like he was ascendant and really seen as a big new voice in hip hop and he kinda...quit trying? (at least from the outside)
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 16:21 (two years ago) link
Yeah, haven’t really followed him that close, but never got the impression that he really delivered on the promise. He left Chicago, may have something to do with it (though it was probably good for him)
― Mule, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link
he was gonna drop an album with mike will, and the two singles he dropped off that were incredibly good, but that rollout seems to have fizzled out
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:31 (two years ago) link
hes had some hits that were not so much radio hits but did big streaming numbers, and made a lot of weird but not always great music, seems like he kinda just follows his muse and doesnt really care otherwise
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link
he also made a lot of his own beats which were often weird and not that technically proficient, he basically became a diy artist after getting dropped
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:50 (two years ago) link
wouldve been cool if he couldve stayed in the pocket a lil more oh well
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:56 (two years ago) link
He's had some huge hits. He's had problems with labels. He's invented styles. His music has been leaked. He's been the most influential rapper in the last 10 years.
He's a legend.
― ANU (sisilafami), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link
deej is that you
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 20:26 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUl99v4I_60
Hard as fuck
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 07:25 (two years ago) link
Sisilafami is right. I talk to young artists daily who, in 2021, say Chief keef is who inspired them to rap
He’s the most influential artist of the decade and had an immeasurable impact
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 07:27 (two years ago) link
I really hate !! The contention that his post major label stuff was just weird off brand experiments and bad diy self production. It’s underestimating it’s broad popular appeal, while simultaneously overvaluing the quality of the samey saturation of streaming rap in the last few years
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 07:51 (two years ago) link
whatever happened to that project he was making with mike will? both singles were excellent
― bart harley-jarvis cocker (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 14:29 (two years ago) link
No idea. I thought they were just ok. Like this new song more honestly.
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link
Thinking about joe's posts is driving me nuts lol. "stayed in the pocket" he invented the fucking pocket
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link
lmao he shouldve stayed in it after he invented it
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 15:46 (two years ago) link
in all seriousness i do respect the way keef has been out there doing his art but i prefer the early stuff
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link
new song is a banger tho, it's true
― bart harley-jarvis cocker (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link
hes def had some nice songs the only ones i can say i actively dislike are from his owl city period
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 16:09 (two years ago) link
― lag∞n, Wednesday, July 14, 2021 10:51 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink
the stuff casual fans like, the dont like and love sosas etc., that stuff is iconic but definitely not his best stuff. its also not the stuff uzi, 21, carti, etc. built their sounds off of. its not surprising ppl undervalue his influence when they dont even know the records. but yea, his tapes after finally rich are way way better than the stuff "most people" know.
Also among actual rap fans its the records from the mid-later period that are most well known these days anyway...faneto, earned it, text, my baby, facts, kills, those are more iconic singles at this point ... and tapes like bang2, almightyso, back from the dead 2, nobody, dedication are >>> finally rich. they're not 'weird experiments,' everyone needs to stop biting 8 year old noz tweets, they're just great rap projects, w more ideas per song than the average stretched-too-thing-recorded-too-long pain rap tape today
the shit that rips off that period -- 'we dem boyz' type music -- is the fuckin worst
i assume by 'owl city period' you mean thot breaker which is a dope tape, just corny bc it got twee pitchfork support & is somehow his highest rated album. its not bad at all though, there are classic tracks on it
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 02:36 (two years ago) link
*stretched-too-thin-recorded-too-long pain rap tape
**the shit that rips off the finally rich early period -- we dem boyz type music -- is the fuckin worst
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 02:37 (two years ago) link
among actual rap fanshope to meet one someday
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 02:58 (two years ago) link
so like does he rap off beat on purpose
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 02:59 (two years ago) link
just to go back 7 years in the convo
deej does deserve his victory lap, keef did become as influential as he predicted, not that's he's one for "I told you so's"
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 03:08 (two years ago) link
lol
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 03:22 (two years ago) link
True it’s important ilx maintains condescension levels
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 04:01 (two years ago) link
I was being serious except for the last lineyou were right and we (or I specifically) was wrong! he ended up being that important
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 04:12 (two years ago) link
"they're not 'weird experiments,(...) they're just great rap projects"
This is not mutually exclusive. BFTD2 is weird. Keef has also a huge influence on hyperpop.
― ANU (sisilafami), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link
Feel like you’re misunderstanding me — of course they’re creative & experimental but not imo in some way that’s somehow exceptional to rap artists when they’re in a creative zone generally. The exception w him is id say the frequency of the ideas, there’s room for a lot more variation & surprise as a result.
What joe said was “I do respect the way he’s out there doing his art” before dismissing that art out of hand, I think ppl tend to stigmatize stuff as weird that isn’t like … outsider art or some shit. It’s redefined the boundaries of the genre, of what is considered “normal”
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link
i domt see how you can say his later work is more influential when there are literal english making right drill music mate, ALSO idk why i am the one being attacked here when i have always been supportive of keefs artistic flights of fancy
― lag∞n, Sunday, 8 August 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link
i even like his aggressively avant garde work that only ticktok teens can understand but still i prob wouldve enjoyed a more direct career trajectory from bang through finally rich and so on, theres def an interesting path not chosen there, particularly i really like how he used his voice early on, in some ways he became a more conventional rapper after that, somewhat compensating by adopting a loosey goosey style
― lag∞n, Sunday, 8 August 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link
UK drill & NY drill were initially impacted by Keef in obvious ways (ie the first GS9 tape has flips of Keef's post-Finally Rich song "Pull Up") but the main blueprint for the sound is Lil Herb & Bibby's "Kill Shit." Which in Chicago was kind of a brief window / angle of the sound around DJ L's production.
The way in which Keef's post-Finally Rich sound was influential is much more around Bang 2 & the loosies from that 2013-2015 period, and its influence isn't so much on 'drill' the way its conceived in ny/uk as much as rappers like uzi, kodak, 21, xxx, playboi carti, et al
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Monday, 9 August 2021 21:43 (two years ago) link
imo he made his voice *more* interesting not less after "Finally Rich" -- on FR he was doing that style where his voice casually rides the beat, sounds like Gucci Mane but his voice pops more to the front of the speaker where Gucci was kind of demur. But then he did that looser more aggressive attack & that's when his voice became way more malleable & started experimenting w/ darker melodies & textures & IMO showed much more the possibilities for vocal stylings that other artists picked up and ran off with
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Monday, 9 August 2021 21:45 (two years ago) link
new song is titanically great, goddamn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f36hvoQ-bCs
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 August 2022 23:41 (one year ago) link
https://hiphopdx.com/news/chief-keef-finally-rich-10th-anniversary-reissue
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 December 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link
aoty
― devvvine, Monday, 5 December 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link
Mexicans in Chicago ✅✅ pic.twitter.com/K4qDsQap4B— El Sol Sale Pa Todos (@frijoliz) December 5, 2022
― lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link