point me in the direction of the really good rolling stones album that's not 'exile on main street'

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I don't like Some Girls that much, mostly because I hate the production.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link

"Emotional Rescue" gets my vote; "Dirty Work" too. I will defend the latter to the death.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm in the Let it Bleed camp, but will also defend Emotional Rescue (my first Stones album)...including the title track.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, Undercover is cruelly underrated.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, but the guy who started the thread doesn't want to hear Undercover! he wants Let It Bleed or Beggar's Banquet! Give him time!

― European Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link

oh wait this thread is from 2002

― European Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Between The Buttons!!

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 22 April 2005 07:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Goddess In the Doorway!!

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Friday, 22 April 2005 07:17 (nineteen years ago) link

All records 68-72 get an A+, Goat's Head Soup is an underrated classic, and Some Girls is their last great album (and one of their best).

― Yngwie AlmsteenMay (sgertz), Friday, 22 April 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link

u still can't get PERFORMANCE on dvd can u?

― piscesboy, Saturday, 23 April 2005 08:11 (nineteen years ago) link

It's all about AFTERMATH: "Paint It Black," "Under My Thumb," "High & Dry," "Think," "Stupid Girl," "Flight 505," the epic "Going Home."

Flawless!

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 23 April 2005 10:20 (nineteen years ago) link

here's a shout out for It's Only Rock 'n Roll - imo definitely the best of their mid-seventies lull (GHS, B&B). The opening track, title track, & "Dance Little Sister" are worth the price of admission. Add to that the coked-out, paranoid funk of "Fingerprint File", "Ain't Too Proud To Beg" cover and Van Morrison-esque "Till The Next Goodbye" and you've got a damn fine Stones record.

― Will(iam), Saturday, 23 April 2005 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Goat's Head Soup is an underrated classic

My neighbor was playing something that sounded really good the other day as it came muffled through my wall. When I asked him about it later he told it was Goat's Head Soup. I owned this long ago but seldom listened to it and don't remember it at all. In a way it's not too surprising that this would sound good coming from the next apartment over -- it's the 70s Rolling Stones, after all -- but...further comments? Should I re-buy it?

― box.of.rox, Saturday, 23 April 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link

he said it was

― box.of.rox, Saturday, 23 April 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link

The UK running order of Buttons makes it a whole different album, really -- without the overfamiliar (but not at all un-classic) "Let's Spend the Night Together" opening it up, it has a more understated appeal. "Yesterdays Papers" works better, leading into "My Obsession," etc.

Also, the UK version of Aftermath opens with "Mother's Little Helper," which the US version does not even include. You can't do without "Paint It Black," though.

― happy fun ball (kenan), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 05:57 (nineteen years ago) link

haha "understated appeal"

Jesus I suck.

― happy fun ball (kenan), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 06:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I continue to live in hope that one day the world will wake up and acknowledge the louche majesty of Black And Blue. Hot Stuff! Hand Of Fate! Fool To Cry! Memory Motel! I mean, come ON!

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 06:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Seconded. Those songs (there's other good stuff on it, I think, it's a great lazy groove rec if not a great SONGWRITING one) are about as good as anything they evr did. In my drunker/more romantic moments BandB's my fav RS Lp. There isn't a mid70s lull, btw, but there IS a bunch of recieved opinion (actually "It's Only"'s pretty tired as I remember but I'm prob wrong and anyway big deal it's one album).

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:18 (nineteen years ago) link

RECEIVED, Andrew.

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Some "great lazy groove" stuff covers the rest of the Lp pretty well now I look

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I think every single Stones studio album has been mentioned on this thread at least once.

― Keith C (kcraw916), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:40 (nineteen years ago) link

They're a good band

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Masterpieces

The Rolling Stones, Now!
Aftermath
Beggar’s Banquet
Let it Bleed
Exile on Main Street
Some Girls

Great Albums

12 x 5
December’s Children (underrated)
Between the Buttons
Sticky Fingers

Very Good Albums

England’s Newest Hit Makers
Out of Our Heads
Flowers
Get Your Ya-Ya’s Out

Good Albums

Satanic Majesty’s Request
It’s Only Rock and Roll
Black and Blue
Tattoo You

Don’t care much for the rest…

― Not Thaat Chuck, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd move "Ya-ya's" up to Great, just because of "Stray Cat Blues." But other than that, I think you're totally OTM.

― happy fun ball (kenan), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll say "Dirty Work" again. "One Hit (To The Body)" and "Sleep Tonight" and "Hold Back" kick harder than anything in their catalogue.

As for other post-EOMS classics....I heard "Summer Romance" the other day on the radio and it sounded GREAT.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Other than Exile, Rolling Stones Now is great, and what I've heard of Some Girls suggests that it may be, too. Beggars Banquet is at least very good. I appreciate Aftermath - there's clearly something there - but just don't find it very likable (which may be the point) - what if anything am I missing? Sticky Fingers is ok, but pretty boring. Never heard the others. What should I go for next?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Alfred, NO NO NO NO NO NO NO (have you even HEARD "Tattoo You"? For a start?). Tho maybe yr just beyond infatuated w/80s shit in which case ROCK ON HOMBRE

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Settle down, bro! I love "Tattoo You," but it's SUCH a predictable choice.

I don't love one decade more than another either.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link

btw I love "Black & Blue" as much as you do.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

That's good to hear bro (really) but REALLY, those "Dirty Work" singles hit harder than anything in their catalogue? That's cuckoo even in cuckooland cuckoonesity! "Summer Romance" is pretty great tho. I prob shouldn't be annoyed w/anyone who'll stand up for 80s Stones, really. REALLY. Are you just overrepping for an overlooked rec?

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Really!

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I wrote a recent essay defending "Dirty Work" as not only their best since "Some Girls," but a necessary part of their development and thus ranks with anything else in their canon. With the Stones I'm so sick of the arias of ecstacy their proponents belt (you're not one of them, Andrew. You love B & B) that I get off defending their Less Important Records.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah. Alfred OTM: Tattoo You is WAY fucking duller than Emotional Rescue (which is quite possibly better than Some Girls, by the way) or Dirty Work. (And by the way, I think Frank Kogan said once that Exile On Main Street is something like their 15th best album, which sounds about right. I'm not sure if 15 was the exact number, though.)

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I love you. Tho I like to think eventually everyone'll dig there ARE no impt RStones recs, y'know? One likes what one likes. It all has to do w/it. Etc ("Dirty Work" is so not as good as "Tattoo" tho) XPOST Chuck and Frank full of shit, big fuckin shock

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I think in general lots of people tend to underrate the Stones's quite successful attempts to keep up with current dance music (funk, disco, reggae, new wave) in the mid to late '70s (though actually the rhythms in stuff like "Sympathy for the Devil" had anticipated disco etc., of course); for the most part, that stuff provided their best moments until they completely started sucking in the mid '80s or so.

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link

How the fuck did you get yr job, Chuck?

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Stop taking ANY ATTEMPT to "keep up" as evidence of greatness, dumbass

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I mean I don't underrate that shit (I overrated it, I thought, till you posted that fucked thing), but neither do I take anything that seems "STONESESQUE" as some sort of failure to be CURRENT.

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link

aftermath, between the buttons, and beggar's banquet are all better than exile, to me. exile has a lot of warmed over blues rock on it that just annoys me for some reason.

also, I like the disco on Some Girls a lot.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, here's the Kogan thing I was referring to:

"Even while Brooks & Dunn can prosper and gain kudos for making an album that resembles the 16th-best Rolling Stones album and that quotes platitudes from the seventh-best song on the 19th-best Rolling Stones album, and even as B&D endlessly and creatively run the riff from "Brown Sugar" (best song on the 14th-best Rolling Stones album), they simply won't let their music do what the Rolling Stones would do."

so he would say:

16th best = Exile on Main Street
19th best = (something with "Honky Tonk Women" on it, apparently)
14th best = Sticky Fingers

And in an email a couple weeks ago, I believe he said his favorite Rolling Stones album was *Get Your Ya Yas Out.* (My thoughts above about the Stones keeping up to date with dance music were probably inspired by something he wrote once, too, come to think of it.)

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Lately I listen to "Emotional Rescue" prob more than my other Stones albums; it's juicier and faster than "Some Girls," maybe because most of the tracks are left-overs. Even the crass emotional stuff like "Indian Girl" is fascinating listening: you don't quite believe Mick but you can't take your eyes off him, or something. The only two tracks that still don't work are "Down In the Hole" and the title song (sorry, Chuck).

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I think everyone who ever wrote about the 70s/80s Stones wrote something similar (in fact did the Stones EVER get seperated from dancing?). xpost say sorry to me too, babe. It remains the best song off the record and the only one I've heard requested on STUDENTRADIO! I like "Down in the Hole" Ok, too.

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link

He's so cold, he's so goddamn cold.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link

What is inherently wrong with keeping up with newer music, Viking? You think I'm a dumbass because I'm not worried about bands "selling out their true sound" or something? Even when their true sound had to do with keeping up with what was happening with dance music in the first place? How bright of you. (Keeping up with new music is not necessarily *good* either, or course. Unless you do it right.)

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link

And if you're trying to say that I *only* like bands when they keep up with new music (your dumbass "dumbass" post was completely ambiguous), uh, you don't know what you're talking about.

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

If Frank's rankings were not intended as hyperbole, I'd like to see the actual list!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link

The best Stones album is "Sticky Fingers", second best is "Hot Rocks".

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, if we're talking comps, the singles collection CD set is probably the best.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link

based on that small sample I'm guessing #1 is Bridges to Babylon, followed by Stripped. xxpost

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link

And that's part of the problem with a "Stones best albums" thing -- they were a singles band up until Between the Buttons.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link

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