― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:31 (nineteen years ago) link
xpost wtfukkk is that jon?!?
― g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link
You're not sorry at all, you meanie. *cries*
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link
jos. cornell: those are some of my favorite films in the world (esp. "mulberry st." and "centuries of june"). though some of them had soundtracks, of old calypso records IIRC.
stan brakhage's widow has voiced concern about bands like sonic youth performing to her husband's films. she's not making any NAACP-like effort to stop it from happening (though i guess technically it is kinda illegal), but she insists that her husband wanted his films to be shown silent.*
* with the exceptions of his few films w/soundtracks, and those explicitly made for particular musicians to accompany.
― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:46 (nineteen years ago) link
That's true. They mentioned that in the show. I think Zorn took some inspiration from those original soundtracks, but basically took them in a completely different direction.
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 21:05 (nineteen years ago) link
i presume you have seen it then? most people haven't. if you hadn't seen it you may not be quite so baffled by peoples desire to do so.
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link
i'm even confusing myself.
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 22:33 (nineteen years ago) link
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― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 22:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 22:39 (nineteen years ago) link
At First, when there's nothing but a slow glowing dream That your fear seems to hide deep inside your mind All alone I have cried silent tears full of pride In a world made of steel, made of stone
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 01:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Maria (Maria), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 01:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 01:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 02:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 02:44 (nineteen years ago) link
Spot on! It's uncanny.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link
The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, which had protested the planned showing, said the movie “poisoned racial relationships in America for nearly a century.”
ultimately this is the same logic that tipper gore used againt rap in the '80s. and possibly the poisoning was done by eg segregation more than by a film?
― ENRQ, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 08:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 08:10 (nineteen years ago) link
enrique have you seen birth of a nation? the racism here is hardly genteel. one scene has mae marsh leap from a cliff to her death to be spared the "fate worse than death"--being raped by a black man. the whole film is driven forward by a terrible fear of miscegnation. and its tied to a vision of history that is profoundly unsettling and perverse (although common enough back then).
to revisit my comments above, i agree that the NAACP is being foolish in trying to prohibit this film's screening publicly. but i guess that i also feel that given all the furor it inevitably causes when being shown in this manner, maybe people could program it more discreetly and less often (which they in point of fact do in general)--as noted above, the film is very easily seen on video.
― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Yup, Lilian is one hott mama.
(I heart her btw)
― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― na (Nick A.), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:27 (nineteen years ago) link
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― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link
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― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link
(Possibly the NAACP were not big on the "contextualizing debate" idea because they knew it would be TOTALLY BORING.)
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link